Do you observe the Sabbath?

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Colossians chapter 2

[16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
[17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

There are those who would have us to believe that these “sabbath days, which are a shadow of things to come” pertain only to special Sabbath days like the Jewish feasts and not to the weekly seventh day Sabbath as well, but such is not the case.

So, is this merely my own allegation or is there anything in scripture which indicates that the weekly seventh day Sabbath actually foreshadowed some future event?

Please consider the following:

Hebrews chapter 3

[6] But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
[7] Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
[8] Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
[9] When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
[10] Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
[11] So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest)
[12] Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
[13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
[14] For we are made partakers of Christ, IF we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
[15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
[16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
[17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
[18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
[19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews chapter 4

[1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[2] For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[3] For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[4] For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
[5] And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
[6] Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
[7] Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
[8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
[9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

First of all, the writer of the epistle to the Hebrews was writing to HEBREW CHRISTIANS. Yes, they were clearly “partakers of the heavenly calling” (Heb. 3:1).

Secondly, seeing how these HEBREW CHRISTIANS had recently come out from being under the law, the writer of this epistle repeatedly gave two or three proof texts from the Old Testament to his readers in order to show them how the New Testament was foretold of in the Old Testament. We’ll look at two proof texts in relation to what the Old Testament seventh day Sabbath foreshadowed in just a moment.

Before we do, let’s quickly answer the following question:

Were these HEBREW CHRISTIANS told that ‘Jesus is your sabbath rest” as so many errantly teach today?

No, they were not.

Instead, in stark contrast, they were told that there was “a promise being left us of entering into his rest” (Heb. 4:1), and this “us” included the writer of the epistle himself, that “it remains that some must enter therein” (Heb. 4:6), that “there remains therefore a rest to the people of God” (Heb. 4:9), and they were admonished to “labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief” (Heb. 4:11) which befell the children of Israel in the wilderness to whom God “swore in his wrath, They shall not enter into my rest” (Heb. 3:11).

While issuing such a stern warning, the writer supplied his readers with two proof texts in relation to this “rest” or with the following portions of scripture:

“And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.” (Genesis 2:2 as cited in Hebrews 4:4)

“For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. Today if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work. Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways: Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.” (Psalm 95:7-11 as cited in Hebrews 3:7-11, 15, 4:7, and alluded to elsewhere).

So, what exactly is this future “rest” which God initially foreshadowed when he himself “rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made”?

Simply put, it is the coming Millennial Reign or 1000-year reign of Christ. THIS is what Christians ought to be laboring to enter into lest we fall short of the same.

This is the “rest” that the seventh day Sabbath foreshadows in that “one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day” (II Pet. 3:8). In other words, in the same manner in which God labored for 6 days during the creation week while “resting” on the seventh day, Christians have been called to labor for 6000 years, and they will “rest” for 1000 years during the coming Millennial Reign of Christ.

The writer of the epistle to the Hebrews went on to explain how that Joshua (the KJV says “Jesus”, but both Joshua’s and Jesus’ names read the same in the underlying Greek of the New Testament) didn’t provide anyone with this “rest” when the children of Israel entered into the promised land.

Again, we read:

Hebrews chapter 4

[7] Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
[8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

In other words, if the “rest” of which God spoke in Genesis 2:2 foreshadowed the children of Israel entering into the promised land, then God wouldn’t have spoken of a future “rest” which yet remained through David in Psalm 95 many years later.

Again, this “rest” yet remains to be entered into, and it won’t arrive until the second coming of Jesus Christ:

II Thessalonians chapter 1

[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
[10] When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

As we look forward to this day of “rest”, in light of what David said in Psalm 95, on any day that is called “Today”, we ought to be exhorting one another lest any of us be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin and fall short of this “rest”.

Hebrews chapter 3

[12] Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
[13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
[14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
[15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

So much for the heresy of “once saved, always saved”.

Anyhow, this is why the Sabbath being on the seventh day is so important. In other words, it foreshadows the 7th 1000-year period of time or the coming Millennial Reign of Christ. By changing the Sabbath to any other day of the week, God's typology or foreshadowing of this future event is destroyed, and, as I said in a post yesterday, I wouldn't want to have to give an account to God for that myself.

Well, this was merely an introduction as the Bible has much more to say in relation to this topic.
 
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I don't need a special day to meet with the Lord. I fellowship with Him every day through the Word and the Spirit.
And He’s watching your every move, observing your every thought, paying close attention to your everything you do wherever you go. There is no where you can escape the Lord in this world or the next.
 

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Thanks for your clarification.

Well, I'm definitely not a Sun-worshipper like the "popes" who foisted "Sun-day' as the new alleged Sabbath on a sleeping church are.

The pagan Roman Catholic church is steeped in Sun worship, and the world's largest solar wheel is actually found at St. Peter's Square. Smack dab in the middle of it is an obelisk which was imported from Egypt where it had previously been used to worship the sun god Ra.

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"Christ Mass"?

I'm definitely not a fan of that pagan holiday either as it is steeped in both Sun and Satan worship, even as I documented my last time through here as "Live4Him2". You can read that post here if you're interested in doing so:

https://christianchat.com/christian...e-celebrate-christmas.110/page-2#post-4829608

I definitely agree with you that Jesus was the God of the Old Covenant. In fact, he was the Rock which followed the children of Israel in their wilderness journeys (I Cor. 10:4), and he was also the one who the children of Israel constantly tempted (I Cor. 10:9) or provoked to wrath.

In relation to Christ being that Rock, it's important to note what got Moses in trouble with God. Initially, God told Moses to "smite the Rock", and this typified Christ being smitten or crucified for us. The second time, God told Moses to "speak to the Rock" because after we come to the smitten Christ, God wants us to commune with him through prayer. If you recall, Moses disobeyed God, and he smote the Rock a second time. God was angry that Moses didn't sanctify him before the people in that Moses broke the typology that God was seeking to demonstrate. In other words, as we're told in the New Testament, Christ will not be "crucified afresh", and by smiting the Rock a second time, Moses gave the impression that he would be.

Anyhow, I'm mentioning this as a precursor to a future post that I hope to make here. In that post, I hope to show exactly why God initially gave us the seventh day Sabbath way back in the book of Genesis, and his intended typology in doing so. Personally, I wouldn't want to be one to break that typology, but I'd venture to say that millions of professing Christians have done just that throughout the course of history or are presently doing just that today.
I always thought that sun worship was girls sunbathing at the beach.
 
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Yes, it most definitely is the seventh day, and for a very good reason which I'll eventually post on.
I agree with you about that.


First of all, the early church MET DAILY to break bread:

Acts chapter 2

[46] And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
[47] Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
That’s good to know. I didn’t know they broke bread daily. So we can eat the Lord’s supper any day, assuming that “breaking bread” means communion.

Secondly, it has been prophesied of the Antichrist that he would "think to change times and laws":

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. " (Daniel 7:25)

What entity changed God's law or the Ten Commandments?

Well, of course, that would be the Papacy because they are the literal kingdom of antichrist.

They removed the second commandment regarding the making of graven images because they are steeped in idolatry.

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Of course, they also divided the 10th commandment into both the 9th and 10th commandments to compensate for their deliberate omission.

And what of "changing times"?

Well, again, there is only one entity which changed the Biblical seventh day Sabbath to an alleged first day Sabbath, and that entity is the Vatican/the Papacy because, again, they are the literal kingdom of antichrist.
That’s an interesting observation. The beast is described as having 7 heads. I think the Papacy is probably one of those heads. Guess who the Papacy is in bed with? Islam. They invented a religion called Chrislam. It’s already being practiced by some.
 

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I always thought that sun worship was girls sunbathing at the beach.
Why girls only?

Anyhow, I'm thankful for the sun and the benefits it provides for us, but if you find my body on a beach during the daytime, then it probably means that somebody assassinated me the night before and dumped my body there.

I'm not really a fan of the heat.

Just saying...
 
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I always thought that sun worship was girls sunbathing at the beach.
How long until the beach is covered with tanning drag queens? You know it's gonna happen.
"Grampa, a pod of beluga whales has beached itself!"
"No, Jimmy, those aren't whales!"
Ugh!
 

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If a donkey was in the mire on the sabbath, I wouldn't get it out...I don't own a donkey!
What about a Pet or Car belonging to your neighbor. One of my favorite laws is a fence on the roof of my house. I have installed many on the roofs of Churches and those of Seventh Day ???, maybe World Wide Church of God Members. Not on roofs of SDA, they were too smart.

I Cor 9:16-23 For I take no special pride in the fact that I preach the Gospel. I feel compelled to do so; I should be utterly miserable if I failed to preach it. If I do this work because I choose to do so then I am entitled to a reward. But if it is no choice of mine, but a sacred responsibility put upon me, what can I expect in the way of reward? This, that when I preach the Gospel, I can make it absolutely free of charge, and need not claim what is my rightful due as a preacher. For though I am no man’s slave, yet I have made myself everyone’s slave, that I might win more men to Christ. To the Jews I was a Jew that I might win the Jews. To those who were under the Law I put myself in the position of being under the Law (although in fact I stand free of it), that I might win those who are under the Law. To those who had no Law I myself became like a man without the Law (even though in fact I cannot be a lawless man for I am bound by the law of Christ), so that I might win the men who have no Law. To the weak I became a weak man, that I might win the weak. I have, in short, been all things to all sorts of men that by every possible means I might win some to God. I do all this for the sake of the Gospel; I want to play my part in it properly.
 

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That’s an interesting observation. The beast is described as having 7 heads. I think the Papacy is probably one of those heads. Guess who the Papacy is in bed with? Islam.
The Papacy is definitely in bed with Islam. There's simply no disputing that reality. However, we're told exactly what the beast's seven heads represent in the book of Revelation, and it is not "heads of state" or anything like that.

"And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. " (Rev. 17:9)

"The seven heads are seven mountains" or seven hills.

One of Rome's seven hills has already recovered from a "deadly wound" at the signing of the Lateran Treaty way back in 1929...even as the newspapers of that day reported, and even as Rome itself acknowledges.

I've documented the same pretty thoroughly here in the past.

For anyone interested in reading the same, just follow this link:

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/revelation-17-8.198198/#post-4522192
 

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Scripture reference please?
The plural of sabbaths would include the single day of the sabbath.

Also,


1 Corinthians 9:19-23

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19 I am free and belong to no one. But I make myself a slave to all people to win as many as I can. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew to win the Jews. I myself am not ·ruled by [subject to;  under] the law. But to those who are ·ruled by [subject to; L under] the law I became like a person who is ·ruled by [subject to; L under] the law. I did this to win those who are ·ruled by [subject to; L under] the law. 21 To those who are without the law [C Gentiles] I became like a person who is without the law. I did this to win those people who are without the law. (But really, I am not without God’s law—I am ·ruled by [ under] Christ’s law.) 22 To those who are weak [C in faith; 8:7–13], I became weak so I could win the weak. I have become all things to all people so I could save some of them in any way possible. 23 I do all this because of the ·Good News [Gospel] and so I can ·share in its blessings [or be a participant in it].
 

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Yes, it most definitely is the seventh day, and for a very good reason which I'll eventually post on.


First of all, the early church MET DAILY to break bread:

Acts chapter 2

[46] And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
[47] Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Secondly, it has been prophesied of the Antichrist that he would "think to change times and laws":

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. " (Daniel 7:25)

What entity changed God's law or the Ten Commandments?

Well, of course, that would be the Papacy because they are the literal kingdom of antichrist.

They removed the second commandment regarding the making of graven images because they are steeped in idolatry.

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Of course, they also divided the 10th commandment into both the 9th and 10th commandments to compensate for their deliberate omission.

And what of "changing times"?

Well, again, there is only one entity which changed the Biblical seventh day Sabbath to an alleged first day Sabbath, and that entity is the Vatican/the Papacy because, again, they are the literal kingdom of antichrist.
Acts 2:42-47
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The Believers Share
42 The believers spent their time listening to the teaching of the apostles. They shared everything with each other. They ate[a] together and prayed together. 43 Many wonders and miraculous signs were happening through the apostles, and everyone felt great respect for God. 44 All the believers stayed together and shared everything. 45 They sold their land and the things they owned. Then they divided the money and gave it to those who needed it. 46 The believers shared a common purpose, and every day they spent much of their time together in the Temple area. They also ate together in their homes. They were happy to share their food and ate with joyful hearts. 47 The believers praised God and were respected by all the people. More and more people were being saved every day, and the Lord was adding them to their group.
 
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What about a Pet or Car belonging to your neighbor. One of my favorite laws is a fence on the roof of my house. I have installed many on the roofs of Churches and those of Seventh Day ???, maybe World Wide Church of God Members. Not on roofs of SDA, they were too smart.

I Cor 9:16-23 For I take no special pride in the fact that I preach the Gospel. I feel compelled to do so; I should be utterly miserable if I failed to preach it. If I do this work because I choose to do so then I am entitled to a reward. But if it is no choice of mine, but a sacred responsibility put upon me, what can I expect in the way of reward? This, that when I preach the Gospel, I can make it absolutely free of charge, and need not claim what is my rightful due as a preacher. For though I am no man’s slave, yet I have made myself everyone’s slave, that I might win more men to Christ. To the Jews I was a Jew that I might win the Jews. To those who were under the Law I put myself in the position of being under the Law (although in fact I stand free of it), that I might win those who are under the Law. To those who had no Law I myself became like a man without the Law (even though in fact I cannot be a lawless man for I am bound by the law of Christ), so that I might win the men who have no Law. To the weak I became a weak man, that I might win the weak. I have, in short, been all things to all sorts of men that by every possible means I might win some to God. I do all this for the sake of the Gospel; I want to play my part in it properly.
Doppelganger...that explains it!
 

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Let's try Exodus chapter 20.
which is written to the Jewish People, not to everyone

The Ten Commandments
20 These are the things God told his people:

2 “I am the Lord your God. I am the one who freed you from the land of Egypt, where you were slaves.

3 “You must not worship any other gods except me.


Deuteronomy 5
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The Ten Commandments
5 Moses summoned all Israel and said:

Hear, Israel, the decrees and laws I declare in your hearing today. Learn them and be sure to follow them. 2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. 3 It was not with our ancestors[a] that the Lord made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today. 4 The Lord spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain. 5 (At that time I stood between the Lord and you to declare to you the word of the Lord, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.) And he said:

6 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

1 Corinthians 9:19-23

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19 I am free and belong to no one. But I make myself a slave to all people to win as many as I can. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew to win the Jews. I myself am not ·ruled by [subject to;  under] the law. But to those who are ·ruled by [subject to; L under] the law I became like a person who is ·ruled by [subject to; L under] the law. I did this to win those who are ·ruled by [subject to; L under] the law. 21 To those who are without the law [C Gentiles] I became like a person who is without the law. I did this to win those people who are without the law. (But really, I am not without God’s law—I am ·ruled by [ under] Christ’s law.) 22 To those who are weak [C in faith; 8:7–13], I became weak so I could win the weak. I have become all things to all people so I could save some of them in any way possible. 23 I do all this because of the ·Good News [Gospel] and so I can ·share in its blessings [or be a participant in it].
 

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I agree with you about that.




That’s good to know. I didn’t know they broke bread daily. So we can eat the Lord’s supper any day, assuming that “breaking bread” means communion.



That’s an interesting observation. The beast is described as having 7 heads. I think the Papacy is probably one of those heads. Guess who the Papacy is in bed with? Islam. They invented a religion called Chrislam. It’s already being practiced by some.
  1. Luke 24:35
    And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. Acts 2:42
    And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. Acts 2:46
    And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  4. Acts 20:7
    And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  5. Acts 20:11
    When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  6. 1 Corinthians 10:16
    The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
 

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Why girls only?

Anyhow, I'm thankful for the sun and the benefits it provides for us, but if you find my body on a beach during the daytime, then it probably means that somebody assassinated me the night before and dumped my body there.

I'm not really a fan of the heat.

Just saying...
I am not excited about sun burn either. Besides one does not get anything useful accomphised by laying around all day.
 
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  1. Luke 24:35
    And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. Acts 2:42
    And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. Acts 2:46
    And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  4. Acts 20:7
    And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  5. Acts 20:11
    When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  6. 1 Corinthians 10:16
    The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
Can’t disagree with a wall of Bible verses. :)
 

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And He’s watching your every move, observing your every thought, paying close attention to your everything you do wherever you go. There is no where you can escape the Lord in this world or the next.
Yeah, I know. What does that have to do with keeping the Sabbath?