Do you realize?

[gotime]

Some don't understand the risk Jesus took.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Notice that Jesus was made under the law, so that He could redeem us who are under the law.

This simply means that The law is our judge. now this is a problem for us because:

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

and

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So we all are under the law and doomed to die.

Jesus came under the law to redeem us, praise His name so now we through Jesus gain the gift of eternal life.

But here is the part we don't think about, If Jesus had sinned then He would have been condemned also. Thus no redeemer thus He and all of us would die.

Jesus loves us soooo much that He risked his own eternity so that you and I could have an eternity.

 

[cfultz3]

Some don't understand the risk Jesus took.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Notice that Jesus was made under the law, so that He could redeem us who are under the law.

This simply means that The law is our judge. now this is a problem for us because:

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

and

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So we all are under the law and doomed to die.

Jesus came under the law to redeem us, praise His name so now we through Jesus gain the gift of eternal life.

But here is the part we don't think about, If Jesus had sinned then He would have been condemned also. Thus no redeemer thus He and all of us would die.

Jesus loves us soooo much that He risked his own eternity so that you and I could have an eternity.

Wasn't Jesus God in the flesh?

 

[gotime]

Yes He was.

 

[cfultz3]

Yes He was.

Please, just for understanding where you are coming from, will you explain the following knowing that He was God in flesh. Thank you

Jesus loves us soooo much that He risked his own eternity so that you and I could have an eternity.

 

[Judgement]

There was no risk for Jesus. He knew where He came from. He knew where He was going. And a son of God CANNOT sin.

 

[piper27]

um, didn't he come to fullfill the law? So, the law has been fullfilled - and what would be left over? more law? Grace?

 

[Abiding]

Jesus said a good tree cannot bear bad fruit.
If He was a lamb without blemish He could not have sinned.
If His nature wasnt perfect He would have sinned.

If He could have sinned where that would come from
would be a blemish

yet people will disagree with that.
His mission didnt call for having the ability to sin.
So it wasnt necessary for Him to have that requisite

 

[starfield]

Some don't understand the risk Jesus took.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Notice that Jesus was made under the law, so that He could redeem us who are under the law.

This simply means that The law is our judge. now this is a problem for us because:

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

and

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So we all are under the law and doomed to die.

Jesus came under the law to redeem us, praise His name so now we through Jesus gain the gift of eternal life.

But here is the part we don't think about, If Jesus had sinned then He would have been condemned also. Thus no redeemer thus He and all of us would die.

Jesus loves us soooo much that He risked his own eternity so that you and I could have an eternity.

How did Jesus risk His own eternity?

 

[gotime]

Often People claim that Because Jesus was God, then he could not sin.

Why do we sin?

Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

So we sin by giving in to temptation.

however the verse before says that God cannot be tempted by Evil

Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.


Yet Jesus was tempted:

Heb 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

So Jesus was tempted but we are told that He cannot be tempted by evil. so what tempts Jesus?

Study the temptation in the wilderness. Jesus was tempted to:

1. use power to feed himself. That is not evil but it was a temptation because he was hungry and he could have done it. It would have been sin for him to do so. That is the point of temptation as James said.

2. Tempted to presume on the promises of God to gain attention, rather than be meek and lowley.

3. Tempted to take the easy way out and to worship Satan to save the world.

Jesus was also tempted in Gethsemane when He feared the separation from His Father. He did not give in.

In all these temptations we see one thread. Selfishness.


So could Jesus sin? Yes.

To say no is to deny that He was tempted and make His sacrifice in life and death nothing but an act.

but here is something else. for those who say that because God cannot sin therefore Jesus being God could not sin.

Can God die? No

Yet Jesus died. That is why he became a real human. He had to become one of us to live and die like one of us. otherwise he could have just come looking like a human but not really being one.

Anyway, you don't have to agree with me. I am not going to argue over this.

Blessings.

 

[cfultz3]

Often People claim that Because Jesus was God, then he could not sin.

Why do we sin?

Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

So we sin by giving in to temptation.

however the verse before says that God cannot be tempted by Evil

Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.


Yet Jesus was tempted:

Heb 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

So Jesus was tempted but we are told that He cannot be tempted by evil. so what tempts Jesus?

Study the temptation in the wilderness. Jesus was tempted to:

1. use power to feed himself. That is not evil but it was a temptation because he was hungry and he could have done it. It would have been sin for him to do so. That is the point of temptation as James said.

2. Tempted to presume on the promises of God to gain attention, rather than be meek and lowley.

3. Tempted to take the easy way out and to worship Satan to save the world.

Jesus was also tempted in Gethsemane when He feared the separation from His Father. He did not give in.

In all these temptations we see one thread. Selfishness.


So could Jesus sin? Yes.

To say no is to deny that He was tempted and make His sacrifice in life and death nothing but an act.

but here is something else. for those who say that because God cannot sin therefore Jesus being God could not sin.

Can God die? No

Yet Jesus died. That is why he became a real human. He had to become one of us to live and die like one of us. otherwise he could have just come looking like a human but not really being one.

Anyway, you don't have to agree with me. I am not going to argue over this.

Blessings.

One more question,

Say Jesus, the Man, would have sinned, what would had became of the God part of Him?

 

[Abiding]

Jesus was tempted in every way "like" us doesnt mean
exactly like us.

When we are tempted we can react from our first born nature.
Jesus did not have a carnal mind. Or a sinful nature.
When He left the last supper He announced that Satan was
gona be all over Him....but that Satan didnt have any power over Him.

If anything this shows us God. He that has seen me has seen the Father.
God can be trusted that no matter what happens He will stay the same.
Even with the limitations of being a man. Although He did totally
depend on the Father. Nothing in His nature would let Him sin.

 

[gotime]

That is a good question and one I could not tell you. I have no idea.

Lets be glad that did not happen.

 

[Abiding]

If He had lust in His heart He would have had an awful blemish
and not qualified to be the lamb of God

 

[gotime]

Jesus was tempted in every way "like" us doesnt mean
exactly like us.

When we are tempted we can react from our first born nature.
Jesus did not have a carnal mind. Or a sinful nature.
When He left the last supper He announced that Satan was
gona be all over Him....but that Satan didnt have any power over Him.

If anything this shows us God. He that has seen me has seen the Father.
God can be trusted that no matter what happens He will stay the same.
Even with the limitations of being a man. Although He did totally
depend on the Father. Nothing in His nature would let Him sin.

All I know is this:

Jesus was tempted, but he never once gave into that temptation. praise God.

Adam Was perfect when he was made and His nature was not evil at all, It became evil once he gave into temptation.

Lucifer was not evil at all until he turned against God.

I believe Jesus could have given into temptation but simply didn't. I believe that because of Jesus we don't have to give into temptation anymore if we rely on Him like He relied on His Father.

 

[Abiding]

To say He could have sinned carrys alot of implications
for one the Old Testament would not be true. Yikes

 

[cfultz3]

That is a good question and one I could not tell you. I have no idea.

Lets be glad that did not happen.

I cannot see, as Abiding is explaining it also, where there could have been blemish in Him, otherwise He would not have had been the only appeasing sacrifice. As I see it, He was the Light and there is no shadow in the Light. If there was a possibility of Him having sinned, then there would be shadiness in the Light. What do you think?

 

[gotime]

how so????? I needed ten characters to post.

Now that I have said that I suppose I only needed one ?

 

[gotime]

I am not suggesting he had any blemish. He clearly did not. I am saying he could have given into temptation then became blemished. but He didn't.

 

[gotime]

Adam had no blemish when he was made, but he became blemished.

Lucifer had no blemish when he was made, but he became blemished.

Jesus had no blemish when He became human, and He remained that way.

 

[cfultz3]

I posted this in another post and think it has some consideration here

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isa 7:15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. (He was giving nothing of defilement. He did not have that discernment to do or not to do evil. He only knew to do good)

Isa 7:16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.