Doctrine of Unconditional Election

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brightfame52

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10But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace to me was not in vain. No, I worked harder than all of them— yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me.

Seems to me that the bolded suggests that there are instances where His grace to some might've been in vain.
Never in vain, he just emphasized that. Grace reigns, its Gods power Rom 5:21

That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

You havent a clue
 

John146

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This is error big time.
Ephesians 1
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

1. hear the gospel
2. trust/believe the gospel
3. sealed by the Holy Spirit
 

brightfame52

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Ephesians 1
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

1. hear the gospel
2. trust/believe the gospel
3. sealed by the Holy Spirit
I have no problem with those scriptures, I teach them all the time.
 

Mem

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Never in vain, he just emphasized that. Grace reigns, its Gods power Rom 5:21

That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

You havent a clue
Where did you get your clue? in between the lines?

I have no problem with those scriptures, I teach them all the time.
 

brightfame52

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Where did you get your clue? in between the lines?
Grace reigns, its more powerful than death, its Gods Spiritual power that works effectual Eph 3:7

7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

Thats why Paul said I am what I am by the grace of God.

Now if you think man can resist and thwart Gods purposes of Grace, His effectual power, thats just as bad as being an athiest.
 

Mem

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Grace reigns, its more powerful than death, its Gods Spiritual power that works effectual Eph 3:7

7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

Thats why Paul said I am what I am by the grace of God.

Now if you think man can resist and thwart Gods purposes of Grace, His effectual power, thats just as bad as being an athiest.
Wasn't Nazism atheist? They similarly determined Jews as 'non-elect'?
 

Mem

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I was just going of the current theme that no analogy is off the table, although it seemed to me a rather accurate one in this case.
 

brightfame52

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Election to Salvation is unconditional b before the World because its of Divine Origin, the Eternal Purpose and Mind of God before the world began,

He Created according to His Purpose the elect as vessels of mercy Rom 9:20-23

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,


How did He afore prepared them unto Glory ? By Election, by choosing them in Christ before the world began Eph 1:4

These are the Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father as Peter writes 1 Pet 1:2

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

This word foreknowledge should not be divorced from its counterpart foreordination as set forth here 1 Pet 1:20

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

And the word for foreknowledge in 1 Pet 1:2 is adjoined with Gods determinate counsel in Acts 2:23

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

The word and is a copulative conjunction !