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tribesman

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So tell me about the Lord Jesus Christ and how Love is perfect in Him...
John.15

[12] This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
[13] Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
[14] Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

1John.4

[10] Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
[11] Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
[12] No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
[13] Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
[14] And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
[15] Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
[16] And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
[17] Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
[18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
[19] We love him, because he first loved us.
[20] If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
[21] And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
 

Lafftur

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You can quote scripture all day long but, do you know Him? Tell me about how He has loved you personally....:unsure::love:(y)
 

tribesman

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You can quote scripture all day long but, do you know Him? Tell me about how He has loved you personally....:unsure::love:(y)
Is this an interrogation (or competition)? I have already given you a testimony in post #118. How about yourself?:unsure:
 

Lafftur

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Is this an interrogation (or competition)? I have already given you a testimony in post #118. How about yourself?:unsure:
Your post #118:
In Christ Jesus I know all about it. And it's perfect! :)
If you know Love, what are the answers to these questions:

What are the thoughts that Love thinks?

What does Love feel?

What does Love desire?

What are the judgments and mercy that Love gives?
 

tribesman

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Your post #118:


If you know Love, what are the answers to these questions:

What are the thoughts that Love thinks?

What does Love feel?

What does Love desire?

What are the judgments and mercy that Love gives?
Are you interrogating me?
 

tribesman

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Me not so much fancy this "do you believe in Jesus?" "are you sure you believe in Jesus?" "are you sure you believe in Jesus just as much as me, mysel and IIIII do?". Competitions of that kind belongs to the kindergarten.
 

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Your post #118:


If you know Love, what are the answers to these questions:

What are the thoughts that Love thinks?

What does Love feel?

What does Love desire?

What are the judgments and mercy that Love gives?
The same thoughts that God thinks (many toward us, as numerous as the stars)
The same feelings God has (compassion for the lost, joy in His works, pleasure in His faithful ones)
The same desires God has (that all come to the knowledge of the Truth)
The judgments and mercy God has (true fairness and self-sacrifice)

For God is Love
 

Lafftur

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Me not so much fancy this "do you believe in Jesus?" "are you sure you believe in Jesus?" "are you sure you believe in Jesus just as much as me, mysel and IIIII do?". Competitions of that kind belongs to the kindergarten.
Tell your testimony - how and why did you ever come to Salvation and believe in Jesus Christ....:unsure:

Anyone born again has a testimony they love to share...
 

tribesman

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Tell your testimony - how and why did you ever come to Salvation and believe in Jesus Christ....:unsure:

Anyone born again has a testimony they love to share...
I was saved in the spring of 1991. All of it God's doing, none of mine. Been 30 years on now.

But, actually, this is off-topic. This thread is about Heb.12:22-24. Maybe you should start your own thread about this.
 

Lafftur

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The same thoughts that God thinks (many toward us, as numerous as the stars)
The same feelings God has (compassion for the lost, joy in His works, pleasure in His faithful ones)
The same desires God has (that all come to the knowledge of the Truth)
The judgments and mercy God has (true fairness and self-sacrifice)

For God is Love
Excellent! Now you’re pondering....going deeper into WHO God is....keep pondering...know His great love for you....there is no end....you can ponder for all eternity.....
 

Lafftur

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I was saved in the spring of 1991. All of it God's doing, none of mine. Been 30 years on now.

But, actually, this is off-topic. This thread is about Heb.12:22-24. Maybe you should start your own thread about this.
Hebrews 12:22-24 King James Version (KJV)
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Hebrews 12:22-24 is the destiny of those that know and love God. Whoever will choose to know and love God, He wants them with Him forever.

Evidence of knowing and loving God is believing and receiving the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins and receiving the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus which is the human fulfillment of the Law.
 

tribesman

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...Evidence of knowing and loving God is believing and receiving the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins ...
Agreed. Just to clarify for all readers, are you talking about communion here?

... and receiving the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus which is the human fulfillment of the Law.
Could you expound on this, especially the phrase "the human fulfillment of the Law"?

I believe Jesus made perfect satisfaction all requirements of the Law.
 
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Again . ALL the bible is for us , but not ALL the bible is TO us .
Well you can ignore whatever portions you like

Hebrews is for us, but you can call it whatever you wish. Isn't freedom of choice grand?
 

throughfaith

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Well you can ignore whatever portions you like

Hebrews is for us, but you can call it whatever you wish. Isn't freedom of choice grand?
How did you miss it ? I'll say it again . ALL !!!!! of the bible is FOR us . See it ? But not all the bible is TO us . see it ?
 
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SophieT

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How did you miss it ? I'll say it again . ALL !!!!! of the bible is FOR us . See it ? But not all the bible is TO us . see it ?
boring

you are so predictable and anything you say has already been said

again, believe whatever you choose to believe. done with the nonsense of 'Hebrews is not for Christians'

You can always cut it out of your King Jimmy
 

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I hope you can see the general problem of saying things like "Open up your eyes" and similar in a discussion and then not back up your own position with scripture. But we don't need to discuss calvinism here.
Yes, I do.

I've just had so many conversations about Calvinism in the past to no avail. No matter how much scripture anyone lists, it usually turns into an all out brawl and like I said it is most time unfruitful.

I don't think I've had this conversation with you before, so I am sorry for being short with you.
 

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Open your eyes Magenta - see and understand the depth of God's desire for His creation to know Him and love Him.
How odd of you to imply I do not know this, or Him.

It does not speak of any appreciation of me contesting what you say.

Nor does it show any knowledge of who I am or how I came to be in Him, which is disappointing coming from you.

Because I know you have heard at least some of my testimony, and my expressions of gratitude for what He has done.

I realize you like to wax poetic on certain themes and postulate much that is NOT Biblical. However, this IS the Bible Discussion Forum. If you were to say you think God is lonely, that is one thing. Making the absolute claim that He is and arguing about it as if it could be proven with Scripture is quite another. It is simply not Biblical, nor are some of your other claims. You may call it being judgmental simply because you don't like being called on it. I call it rightly dividing the Word of God.
 

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How did you miss it ? I'll say it again . ALL !!!!! of the bible is FOR us . See it ? But not all the bible is TO us . see it ?
Everything in the bible is truthfully stated but not everything stated is a statement of truth.
 

throughfaith

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Everything in the bible is truthfully stated but not everything stated is a statement of truth.
That too. I know when I read the command to build an Ark that its TO Noah . I don't go out ordering wood and nails. But I learn about what happened which is important FOR us to do so . But some believers take this with the four gospels as if every word is TO them. FOR them yes . But not every verse is TO them ,/ Us .
 

1ofthem

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That too. I know when I read the command to build an Ark that its TO Noah . I don't go out ordering wood and nails. But I learn about what happened which is important FOR us to do so . But some believers take this with the four gospels as if every word is TO them. FOR them yes . But not every verse is TO them ,/ Us .
Everyone knows that there are individual instructions in the Bible. I think we have discussed this before.

No one reads about Noah and thinks we need to build an Ark...but we see his faith and understand that we need to have faith like Noah had and obey the Lord in whatever he commands us to do. So pretty much there is the moral of that story.