Does "Elohim" in any way prove the Trinity?
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In any communal venture someone may be given the function of co-ordinating the others, and has authority to do that by mutual consent. That does not make the elected supervisor greater in any way other than by having the authority conferred upon them by the rest and the rest submitting to the oversight of the one so designated.
In the Godhead, it is reasonable to consider three omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and perfect Persons as essentially equal. But for the purpose of carrying out the joint venture of creating and sustaining things any one of the three could have taken on the Father's role and functions. Any one of them could have taken the Son's role and functions; and any one of them could have taken the Holy Spirit's role and functions. Having distributed the functions and roles as they saw fit, the appointed supervisor would appear to us to be greater, since we measure greatness by power, and to us more authority implies more power. However, God's measure of power is revealed to us in the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross. God's kind of self-emptying, self-sacrificing, self-abnegating power seems to be weakness to men.
Hence, I consider the three divine Persons co-equal in their natures, but that we misinterpret their revealed differences in functional doing as differences in essential importance.
In the Godhead, it is reasonable to consider three omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and perfect Persons as essentially equal. But for the purpose of carrying out the joint venture of creating and sustaining things any one of the three could have taken on the Father's role and functions. Any one of them could have taken the Son's role and functions; and any one of them could have taken the Holy Spirit's role and functions. Having distributed the functions and roles as they saw fit, the appointed supervisor would appear to us to be greater, since we measure greatness by power, and to us more authority implies more power. However, God's measure of power is revealed to us in the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross. God's kind of self-emptying, self-sacrificing, self-abnegating power seems to be weakness to men.
Hence, I consider the three divine Persons co-equal in their natures, but that we misinterpret their revealed differences in functional doing as differences in essential importance.
It is unreasonable to do that considering what the bible says about this. There is a hierarchy to the Trinity with the Father as the ultimate authority. The Son had to do as the Father wished, even when expressing desire for something else to take place. Scripture says the Son learned obedience by the things he suffered. The Father is the Son's God and that means he obeys what his God says shall happen. The Trinity is the Father, the Son and the HS, all are God and divine but not equal in place or authority.
Correct. We are told that the Son learned obedience after emptying Himself at the incarnation. Therefore he was not obedient before the incarnation, but was co-ordinating with the Father and Holy Spirit as an equal among equals before the incarnation. He became the Son of God at the incarnation. Before that He was the Word of God.
Heb. 1:5 For unto which of the angels said He at any time, "You are my Son, THIS DAY I have begotten you? And again,
"I WILL be to Him a Father and He SHALL be to Me a Son."
Heb. 1:5 For unto which of the angels said He at any time, "You are my Son, THIS DAY I have begotten you? And again,
"I WILL be to Him a Father and He SHALL be to Me a Son."
No, he learned that at the cross.
Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
“I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, And the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, When his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”
Psalm 2:7-8, 12 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
Matthew 28:18
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
“and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Philippians 2:11 KJV
“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
John 20:28-29 KJV
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
Revelation 1:8, 17-18 KJV
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. ….I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. THE END”
Revelation 22:13, 16, 20-21 KJV
“Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.”
Galatians 3:20 KJV
“And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:”
Mark 12:29 KJV
“but to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.”
1 Corinthians 8:6
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?”
John 14:6-9 KJV
“that thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of Lords; who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”
1 Timothy 6:14-16 KJV
Psalm 2:7-8, 12 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
Matthew 28:18
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
“and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Philippians 2:11 KJV
“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
John 20:28-29 KJV
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
Revelation 1:8, 17-18 KJV
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. ….I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. THE END”
Revelation 22:13, 16, 20-21 KJV
“Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.”
Galatians 3:20 KJV
“And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:”
Mark 12:29 KJV
“but to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.”
1 Corinthians 8:6
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?”
John 14:6-9 KJV
“that thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of Lords; who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”
1 Timothy 6:14-16 KJV