Does God Create People Today?

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stonesoffire

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Desertsrose said:

Hi Stone,

Interesting thought!

I don't have a scripture for this, :) but I believe family genes give us our color for eyes, hair, skin, etc. The physical traits.

As for the soul, maybe we take on some of our parents or siblings personality, and maybe genes play part, I don't know. It would make sense if DNA does have a hand in our personality.

But I really believe at the end of the day we are uniquely ours in personality even though some traits maybe be similar. With 8 siblings, we're all so very different, even if we might share some personality traits that are similar. But not one of us is exactly alike or even close to being exactly alike.

And I also believe that the male and female personality is different in how God created our psyche to be. So in that way I would also agree that DNA has something to do with the personality of the male and female because we're different. It's how God created us to be.

Thanks, Stone. I'll be pondering this for some time probably. :)
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sorry desertrose. Just catching up.

I dont associate soul soul with physical characteristics, but more so our mind, emotions, and will. It's the part of us that connects to the world around us through the 5 senses.

Another reason why I believe Adam and Eve were spiritual beings before the fall.

You dont have to agree. Some do, some dont.
 
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1​ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
 
blue_ladybug

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I agree with this. It makes sense that we are a living being. :) But it doesn't make much sense (to me anyway lol) that we are a living soul.



Desertsrose said:

My versions says that man became a living being instead of living soul.

We're also told to love the Lord our God with all our heart, with all our soul, with all our mind and with all of our strength.

There are other scriptures as well. Yes, we have a soul.
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blue_ladybug

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Since she never returned to answer this question, does someone else want to try and answer it? :)


dcontroversal said:
What did Jesus mean by this?....and the word "my" is a personal pronoun.

Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
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dcontroversal said:
What did Jesus mean by this?....and the word "my" is a personal pronoun.

Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
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According to Genesis 2:7 God did not make a body and put a soul into it like a letter into an envelope of dust; rather he formed man's body from the dust, then, by breathing divine breath into it, he made the body of dust live, i.e. the dust did not embody a soul, but it became a soul—a whole creature. Easy enough to discover :) That is from wiki...

The only Hebrew word traditionally translated "soul" (nephesh) in English language Bibles refers to a living, breathing conscious body, rather than to an immortal soul. In the New Testament, the Greek word traditionally translated "soul" (ψυχή) "psyche," has substantially the same meaning as the Hebrew, without reference to an immortal soul. In the Greek Septuagint, psyche is used to translate each instance of nephesh. The word nephesh refers to the aspects of sentience, and human beings and other animals are both described as having nephesh.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
That's my question, folks. :) I saw a post by Magenta on a different thread, saying that God only created Adam and Eve. That certainly is true, BUT I believe that He knows and forms each child that is born today.. After all, the bible DOES say exactly that: "I knew you before I formed you in the womb." So what are your opinions on this, and please give scripture to back up your views. If God did not, and does not, form each one of us, then how come He calls us His children? And if He does NOT form us in the womb, why does the bible state otherwise?
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Greetings sister,
Just as God created plants and sea creatures and animals according to their kind, he also created man to be able to produce according to their kind. Genesis 1:12, 21, 24

God said in Genesis 1:26-28
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it
Be Blessed!
 
blue_ladybug

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That's not what I want to know. :) What I want to know is, has God formed/ created all the babies that are born every day, or does He have nothing at all to do with it and it's up to the sperm and egg to do their horizontal tango? LOL



SouthernStorm said:
Greetings sister,
Just as God created plants and sea creatures and animals according to their kind, he also created man to be able to produce according to their kind. Genesis 1:12, 21, 24

God said in Genesis 1:26-28
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it
Be Blessed!
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mystdancer50

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blue_ladybug said:
That's not what I want to know. :) What I want to know is, has God formed/ created all the babies that are born every day, or does He have nothing at all to do with it and it's up to the sperm and egg to do their horizontal tango? LOL
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God has His hand in all creation every single second of every single day. He decides all things. While science can attribute eye color and such to genetics, it is God who truly designs these things. Life cannot happen without His hand in it. He is the one who places a soul into the embryo to make it life. This is why abortion is so evil. Once it is an embryo in the womb, God has placed a soul into the egg/sperm joining and has designed and created a unique and purposed life.
 
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That's not what I want to know. :) What I want to know is, has God formed/ created all the babies that are born every day, or does He have nothing at all to do with it and it's up to the sperm and egg to do their horizontal tango? LOL
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The bible tells us in Matthew 10:29-31 and Luke 12:7 that even the hairs on our heads are all numbered. Children are a heritage from the Lord and the fruit of the womb a reward. Psalms 127:3:5

If you think about it...it would be impossible for our names to be written in the lambs book of life if he did not know us personally or have some form of intimate relationship with us throughout our entire life....

Blessed!
 
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mystdancer50 and SouthernStorm,

re: "Do you think the supreme being knows before He creates a person that He will eventually be casting the person into the lake of fire?"
 
mystdancer50

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rstrats said:
mystdancer50 and SouthernStorm,

re: "Do you think the supreme being knows before He creates a person that He will eventually be casting the person into the lake of fire?"
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Everyone has free choice. Does God know what we will choose? Yes. It is still our choice. Should God not create a person because they won't choose Him? No. That's man's logic. That's the "abort because it's convenient for me" or "abort because they are disabled" or "abort because they are female/male". God's ways and thoughts are far above our ways.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
That's my question, folks. :) I saw a post by Magenta on a different thread, saying that God only created Adam and Eve. That certainly is true, BUT I believe that He knows and forms each child that is born today.. After all, the bible DOES say exactly that: "I knew you before I formed you in the womb."
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Create, that is, make someone out of nothing, This has not happened to any human being. After all, the Eternal formed Adam from the clay and Eve from the rib of Adam. And today He continues to form every human being in the womb of the mother through the union of the ovum with the spermatozoid:


  • "For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them." (Psalms 139.13-16).
 
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rstrats said:
mystdancer50 and SouthernStorm,

re: "Do you think the supreme being knows before He creates a person that He will eventually be casting the person into the lake of fire?"
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Some Christians believe in pre-destination and some believe in free will. I believe that the Lord knows who are his...

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

Hebrews 4:13 says ~ Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

1 Peter 4
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry. [SUP]4 [/SUP]They are surprised that you do not join them in their reckless, wild living, and they heap abuse on you. [SUP]5 [/SUP]But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.


Blessings!


 
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SouthernStorm,
re: "Some Christians believe in pre-destination and some believe in free will. I believe that the Lord knows who are his..."
　
But does He know before He creates a person whether or not He will eventualy be tossing the person into the lake of fire?
 
blue_ladybug

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He is all-knowing. So yes, He knows who He will be tossing into hell.. As mystdancer stated, we all have free will to choose to follow Him or reject Him.


rstrats said:
SouthernStorm,
re: "Some Christians believe in pre-destination and some believe in free will. I believe that the Lord knows who are his..."
　
But does He know before He creates a person whether or not He will eventualy be tossing the person into the lake of fire?
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blue_ladybug,
re: "... yes, He knows who He will be tossing into hell."

So why do you suppose He goes ahead and creates the person anyway?
 
blue_ladybug

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Hmmm..I can't answer that because I'm not God and I'm not all-knowing. :) But, since He knows who will and won't accept Him, He still gives us free will to choose what to do with our lives. It seems logical that He may use non-believers in such a way, as to bring another non-believer to Him. :)


rstrats said:
blue_ladybug,
re: "... yes, He knows who He will be tossing into hell."

So why do you suppose He goes ahead and creates the person anyway?
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There is a gospel of life, and a gospel of death. The Lord God has made it very clear that his invitation for salvation is for everyone. John 3:16.
If a person receives Christ he has life. Now by the rejection of the word the heart begins to harden against the truth. The Lord may send many witnesses and events that are ment to humble and soften the heart. But if that person loves his evil ways better than what the Lord has offered then he has placed himself under judgement refusing to except the gift that was given.
Such is the story of Ramses and moses and throughout the old testament.
In the end God will have his way but it is us who decide our fate.
Another example is in the book revelation, the book of life and the book of works are mentioned.
They are also mentioned in the psalms and other places.
Some debate that they are not actually books for God knows everything. Which he does.
Now the books are not for the believer but for the unbeliever. To show proof that a record was kept dated and stamped on deeds and rejection of God's word.
Moses even talked about blotting his name out of the book.
Nothing enters this world nor leaves this world without the Lord's knowledge.
The word create in the original language is the word bara (I think that's how it's spelled).
It means to create out of nothing.
 
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