Does God Know From All Eternity Who Will Die Having Rejected Sound Doctrine?
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OP did you read 1st Tim? Not talking to Christians. Jump back a few "We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers," This is just one but.. It can be hard when just here so many take one verse then some other and put them all together to say something that was not written that way. Its not called "rightly dividing the word" but it happens so many times.
I don't understand this "The words "Grace" and "Sound Doctrine" have different meanings; Those who confuse the meaning of those words will have a very terrible ending. " Please share what you mean by "terrible ending". ? You said it now back it up please
I don't understand this "The words "Grace" and "Sound Doctrine" have different meanings; Those who confuse the meaning of those words will have a very terrible ending. " Please share what you mean by "terrible ending". ? You said it now back it up please
1 Whosoever are servants under the yoke, let them count their masters worthy of all honour; lest the name of the Lord and his doctrine be blasphemed. 2 But they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but serve them the rather, because they are faithful and beloved, who are partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. 3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness, 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but sick about questions and strifes of words; from which arise envies, contentions, blasphemies, evil suspicions, 5 Conflicts of men corrupted in mind, and who are destitute of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness.
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world: and certainly we can carry nothing out. 8 But having food, and wherewith to be covered, with these we are content. 9 For they that will become rich, fall into temptation, and into the snare of the devil, and into many unprofitable and hurtful desires, which drown men into destruction and perdition. 10 For the desire of money is the root of all evils; which some coveting have erred from the faith, and have entangled themselves in many sorrows.
11 But thou, O man of God, fly these things: and pursue justice, godliness, faith, charity, patience, mildness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith: lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art called, and hast confessed a good confession before many witnesses. 13 I charge thee before God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate, a good confession, 14 That thou keep the commandment without spot, blameless, unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Which in his times he shall shew who is the Blessed and only Mighty, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, and inhabiteth light inaccessible, whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and empire everlasting. Amen. 17 Charge the rich of this world not to be highminded, nor to trust in the uncertainty of riches, but in the living God, (who giveth us abundantly all things to enjoy,) 18 To do good, to be rich in good works, to give easily, to communicate to others, 19 To lay up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on the true life. 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding the profane novelties of words, and oppositions of knowledge falsely so called.
21 Which some promising, have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
I agree with your three assertions..
God knows all things. i.e. God at any particular time knows all that exist to be known.
Therefore, God is all-knowing.
God is omniscient.
And I believe that Just because God knows certain sins that will take place in future does not make Him the author or responsible for them.
God knows all things. i.e. God at any particular time knows all that exist to be known.
Therefore, God is all-knowing.
God is omniscient.
And I believe that Just because God knows certain sins that will take place in future does not make Him the author or responsible for them.
God is omniscient. The following speaks to this truth. It is a little lengthy but well worth the read. It is a real eye opener; God is full of surprises
“Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above…” (James 1:17)
Many people ask, is God really out there? Does He care about the trials we face each and every day? What about those seemingly unimportant tiny details?
An experience a young couple had years ago answered these very questions. Their world was virtually crumbling. Financial pressures had taken their toll. How would they provide for their four children? Soon they would be homeless, how could they possibly start all over?
As the two newly saved Christians walked along on that bright spring day, Tony’s mind was filled with questions that seemed to have no answers. The turmoil in his mind was slowly reaching its breaking point. As Tony recalled, he had been the one who vehemently professed his unfailing faith in God’s provision. Surely God would open the doors of opportunity.
But now, he was about to “blow a fuse”. His wife strolled along beside him as if she didn’t have a care in the world. As he tossed suggestion after suggestion at her she just shrugged her shoulders and smiled at him.
Cheryl’s response was “Don’t worry everything is going to be okay, God knows what we need.” Earlier, Tony’s continual expression of faith in God’s word had “rubbed off” on Cheryl. Her own faith in God had given her piece of mind, she wasn’t thinking about anything other than the beauty that surrounded her. A slight breeze touched her face as she listened to the birds chirping and from a distance heard the laughter of children. She squeezed her husband’s hand and smiled up at him, wishing she could smooth the frown that etched his face.
As she looked away she caught her breath. Splashes of color danced upon the field of beautiful wild flowers directly across the street. Petals of every shape and size fluttered to the rhythm of an unheard song. “Oh, Tony, look!” she squealed in her excitement. “Please go pick some for me.” Tony had come to the end of his rope, he started to yell. “Are you crazy? We have to figure out where we’re going to live and how we’ll feed the kids. And you want me to go pick you flowers? I don’t think so.”
“Cheryl! When are you going to help me solve the problems we’re facing?” His wife replied “I still believe what you told me from the beginning. God is going to take care of us.” “Be realistic Cheryl, we are out of time. God isn’t going to help us unless we help ourselves”
Tony shoved his hands deep in his pockets and shook his head. The only sound coming from either of them, as they headed for home, was the scuff of their shoes on the pavement. The cozy feel of the area they had just left behind was replaced by the traffic of the highway that led home.
They paid little attention as cars and trucks whizzed by, until they heard a loud bang that sounded as a tractor trailer hit a seam in the road. They stood motionless and stared as a bouquet of wildflowers flew up out of the back of the tractor trailer and landed right next to them on the highway.
Tony looked back and forth from the flowers to his wife. He was almost afraid to pick up the flowers. He might get run over by the next truck just for being so stupid. He had been attending church right beside his wife. He had even encouraged her to stand on faith. But the closer the deadline came, the more his faith had diminished.
As Tony reached for the bunch of flowers he began to sob. Confused, Cheryl just stood staring at her husband. Finally it dawned on Cheryl that God delivered the beautiful wildflowers she had wanted. Tears spilled over her cheeks as Tony placed the bouquet in her hands.
When Tony shared this touching story, I remember thinking what an awesome God we serve. But God opened Tony's eyes to the complexity involved in this ending becoming a reality.
God was, and is always in control. The Lord knew exactly what struggles the two would be facing. He knew when their walk would take place. He had someone plant the seeds which would produce the flowers at just the right time. Workers picked and loaded the flowers onto the tractor trailer that would travel the exact route at precisely the right time. The couple and the tractor trailer met at the seam in the road simultaneously. And what did God deliver? Not roses, tulips or daisies but he presented Cheryl with exactly what she desired; wildflowers. Cheryl had received yet another gift for placing her faith in Him. Yes, God does care about every little detail of our lives.
The wildflowers were a bright reminder of God’s love for the three weeks it took to pack up and close that chapter of the couple’s life. The bouquet withered away the morning of their departure.
Many years have passed since Cheryl received her wildflowers from God. But one thing remains the same. God is in control!
Tony and Cheryl are so thankful that God brought them out of the mess they had made for themselves. It had seemed that they were losing something back then, when in fact they gained the life that Christ died to give them. The Lord had led them to salvation, of which nothing else can compare. Even so, God continued to bestow blessings upon the couple. Tony and Cheryl’s family enjoyed a much better lifestyle. The new home was nicer and the monthly expense remained the same. Their credit was re-established. Tony acquired a higher paying job and their children were able to attend better schools.
Their story is yet another reminder that God knows all and is in control. “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.” Proverbs 3:5-6
“Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above…” (James 1:17)
Many people ask, is God really out there? Does He care about the trials we face each and every day? What about those seemingly unimportant tiny details?
An experience a young couple had years ago answered these very questions. Their world was virtually crumbling. Financial pressures had taken their toll. How would they provide for their four children? Soon they would be homeless, how could they possibly start all over?
As the two newly saved Christians walked along on that bright spring day, Tony’s mind was filled with questions that seemed to have no answers. The turmoil in his mind was slowly reaching its breaking point. As Tony recalled, he had been the one who vehemently professed his unfailing faith in God’s provision. Surely God would open the doors of opportunity.
But now, he was about to “blow a fuse”. His wife strolled along beside him as if she didn’t have a care in the world. As he tossed suggestion after suggestion at her she just shrugged her shoulders and smiled at him.
Cheryl’s response was “Don’t worry everything is going to be okay, God knows what we need.” Earlier, Tony’s continual expression of faith in God’s word had “rubbed off” on Cheryl. Her own faith in God had given her piece of mind, she wasn’t thinking about anything other than the beauty that surrounded her. A slight breeze touched her face as she listened to the birds chirping and from a distance heard the laughter of children. She squeezed her husband’s hand and smiled up at him, wishing she could smooth the frown that etched his face.
As she looked away she caught her breath. Splashes of color danced upon the field of beautiful wild flowers directly across the street. Petals of every shape and size fluttered to the rhythm of an unheard song. “Oh, Tony, look!” she squealed in her excitement. “Please go pick some for me.” Tony had come to the end of his rope, he started to yell. “Are you crazy? We have to figure out where we’re going to live and how we’ll feed the kids. And you want me to go pick you flowers? I don’t think so.”
“Cheryl! When are you going to help me solve the problems we’re facing?” His wife replied “I still believe what you told me from the beginning. God is going to take care of us.” “Be realistic Cheryl, we are out of time. God isn’t going to help us unless we help ourselves”
Tony shoved his hands deep in his pockets and shook his head. The only sound coming from either of them, as they headed for home, was the scuff of their shoes on the pavement. The cozy feel of the area they had just left behind was replaced by the traffic of the highway that led home.
They paid little attention as cars and trucks whizzed by, until they heard a loud bang that sounded as a tractor trailer hit a seam in the road. They stood motionless and stared as a bouquet of wildflowers flew up out of the back of the tractor trailer and landed right next to them on the highway.
Tony looked back and forth from the flowers to his wife. He was almost afraid to pick up the flowers. He might get run over by the next truck just for being so stupid. He had been attending church right beside his wife. He had even encouraged her to stand on faith. But the closer the deadline came, the more his faith had diminished.
As Tony reached for the bunch of flowers he began to sob. Confused, Cheryl just stood staring at her husband. Finally it dawned on Cheryl that God delivered the beautiful wildflowers she had wanted. Tears spilled over her cheeks as Tony placed the bouquet in her hands.
When Tony shared this touching story, I remember thinking what an awesome God we serve. But God opened Tony's eyes to the complexity involved in this ending becoming a reality.
God was, and is always in control. The Lord knew exactly what struggles the two would be facing. He knew when their walk would take place. He had someone plant the seeds which would produce the flowers at just the right time. Workers picked and loaded the flowers onto the tractor trailer that would travel the exact route at precisely the right time. The couple and the tractor trailer met at the seam in the road simultaneously. And what did God deliver? Not roses, tulips or daisies but he presented Cheryl with exactly what she desired; wildflowers. Cheryl had received yet another gift for placing her faith in Him. Yes, God does care about every little detail of our lives.
The wildflowers were a bright reminder of God’s love for the three weeks it took to pack up and close that chapter of the couple’s life. The bouquet withered away the morning of their departure.
Many years have passed since Cheryl received her wildflowers from God. But one thing remains the same. God is in control!
Tony and Cheryl are so thankful that God brought them out of the mess they had made for themselves. It had seemed that they were losing something back then, when in fact they gained the life that Christ died to give them. The Lord had led them to salvation, of which nothing else can compare. Even so, God continued to bestow blessings upon the couple. Tony and Cheryl’s family enjoyed a much better lifestyle. The new home was nicer and the monthly expense remained the same. Their credit was re-established. Tony acquired a higher paying job and their children were able to attend better schools.
Their story is yet another reminder that God knows all and is in control. “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.” Proverbs 3:5-6
And what exactly does, “God is in control” biblically mean? This couple could have had cancer and died six months later, which is the story of many faithful believers. We have not been promised health, wealth, or peaceful times here on earth. The Lord is not the King of this earth right now. Satan is the god of this world, the ruler of the darkness of this world. When Christians say things like, “God is in control” and bad things happen, it makes people get angry with God.
While it is true that none is promised health, wealth, peaceful times nor tomorrow that was not the point of the story. And as a matter of fact years later Cheryl did die of cancer. But that does not change the fact that during her lifetime God showed His love for her in most profound ways.
The main reason for sharing this story was to dispel the notion that God does not know everything that goes on in the day to day lives of His people. Case in point, God knew Tony was not going to pick the wildflowers that Cheryl so wanted to enjoy. It was for that very reason that God made those provisions long before the couple ever took their walk.
"God was, and is always in control. The Lord knew exactly what struggles the two would be facing. He knew when their walk would take place. He had someone plant the seeds which would produce the flowers at just the right time. Workers picked and loaded the flowers onto the tractor trailer that would travel the exact route at precisely the right time. The couple and the tractor trailer met at the seam in the road simultaneously. And what did God deliver? Not roses, tulips or daisies but he presented Cheryl with exactly what she desired; wildflowers. Cheryl had received yet another gift for placing her faith in Him. Yes, God does care about every little detail of our lives."
The main reason for sharing this story was to dispel the notion that God does not know everything that goes on in the day to day lives of His people. Case in point, God knew Tony was not going to pick the wildflowers that Cheryl so wanted to enjoy. It was for that very reason that God made those provisions long before the couple ever took their walk.
"God was, and is always in control. The Lord knew exactly what struggles the two would be facing. He knew when their walk would take place. He had someone plant the seeds which would produce the flowers at just the right time. Workers picked and loaded the flowers onto the tractor trailer that would travel the exact route at precisely the right time. The couple and the tractor trailer met at the seam in the road simultaneously. And what did God deliver? Not roses, tulips or daisies but he presented Cheryl with exactly what she desired; wildflowers. Cheryl had received yet another gift for placing her faith in Him. Yes, God does care about every little detail of our lives."
Isaiah 46:9-10
Remember the former things of old, for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done, saying, 'My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure'
1 John 3:20
For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things
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Do you not realise that an infinite set can be added to without the previous set thereby probed to have been not infinite..
The set of every third natural number is infinite. If I add the numbers 2, 5 and 8 to that set, it is does not make the set of every third natural number less than infinite.
Hence an infinite God can learn new things.
Paul the apostle prayed by the Holy Spirit that we would know the height, breadth, length and depth of God's love.
Although I cannot discover all the depths of God, I can know some of His depths.
I can also know some of the limits of the Almighty. He cannot lie, for instance. You surely do not think Zophar the Naaathite, whose speech God condemned, was being inspired by the Holy Spirit to speak truth in Job. 11 !!!
The set of every third natural number is infinite. If I add the numbers 2, 5 and 8 to that set, it is does not make the set of every third natural number less than infinite.
Hence an infinite God can learn new things.
Paul the apostle prayed by the Holy Spirit that we would know the height, breadth, length and depth of God's love.
Although I cannot discover all the depths of God, I can know some of His depths.
I can also know some of the limits of the Almighty. He cannot lie, for instance. You surely do not think Zophar the Naaathite, whose speech God condemned, was being inspired by the Holy Spirit to speak truth in Job. 11 !!!