Does satan hide The Way to the Tree of Life? Do Cherubim hide the Tree itself?
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i don't know? but it is a special tree, it grows on both sides of the river and is called a single tree, it has different fruit, each month, does that mean 12 different fruit each month or one fruit for one month and a different one the next month. i don't know but i do know that God created this world and all its wonders, so how much greater the tree of life.
We have to pass through the blood of Christ to reach it. He is the flaming sword keeping the way - it would be "not good" of Adam had gone and eaten of it before Jesus offered Humself: He is THE WAY
Brings up an interesting question, why didn't Adam and Woman go eat from the tree of life immediately after eating from the tree that brought death? They had time, but they spent it sewing fig leaves and hiding instead. Why? Whose idea was it? Did Satan wa t them to eat from the tree of life in their death-state? Was that his plan, but Adam, who Satan could not deceive, thwarted it by keeping himself and his wife away from it until God appeared and prevented them from reaching it?
Genesis 3: 22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.enesis 3:22. And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.
Adam obeyed God and did not eat of the tree as God had commanded before Eve was created from him. Eve was deceived by the evil one (coming in the form of a serpent) into believing she would not surely die. She did not understand spiritual death or separation from God. Eve did not know good and evil until after Adam ate of the forbidden fruit. Adam was God’s first creation of man. Now Adam and Eve were in a fallen state knowing good and evil thus they experienced spiritual death. And, as all of us know and are also in this fallen state, they were compelled to cover their nakedness just as we are compelled to do. They were sent from the Garden because to eat of the tree of life in this fallen state would be the ultimate cure. The cherubim guarded the garden of Eden and ultimately the garden was wiped out with the flood.
Brings up an interesting question, why didn't Adam and Woman go eat from the tree of life immediately after eating from the tree that brought death? They had time, but they spent it sewing fig leaves and hiding instead. Why? Whose idea was it? Did Satan wa t them to eat from the tree of life in their death-state? Was that his plan, but Adam, who Satan could not deceive, thwarted it by keeping himself and his wife away from it until God appeared and prevented them from reaching it?
Genesis 3: 22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.enesis 3:22. And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.
Adam obeyed God and did not eat of the tree as God had commanded before Eve was created from him. Eve was deceived by the evil one (coming in the form of a serpent) into believing she would not surely die. She did not understand spiritual death or separation from God. Eve did not know good and evil until after Adam ate of the forbidden fruit. Adam was God’s first creation of man. Now Adam and Eve were in a fallen state knowing good and evil thus they experienced spiritual death. And, as all of us know and are also in this fallen state, they were compelled to cover their nakedness just as we are compelled to do. They were sent from the Garden because to eat of the tree of life in this fallen state would be the ultimate cure. The cherubim guarded the garden of Eden and ultimately the garden was wiped out with the flood.
I dont just think this is pointing towards overcoming an illusion.
This more than likely means overcoming everyday temtations and everyday problems and challenges, by staying strong in the lord and being a doer of word of Jesus and not just a hearer. This scripture is more than likely a reward and a treasure for all those who believe in Jesus.
We cant overcome by our selfs or lean on our own understanding of scriptures especially the mysteries of the Garden of eden and the cheribum if we do we will be doing exactly what genesis warns about,
And the Lord God said,
Genesis 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
We need to keep things simple we cant possibly comprehend the mysterios mind of god.
Some things your better of knowing for sake of your innocence we must put our hope and trust in Jesus. trying to works this mystery out is something i feal God does not want his chidren focusing on. The Good news is there are now good cheribums guarding the tree of life and no doubt the the tree of knowledge.
Moving forward any illusion created has now been defeated by Jesus.
The main illusion we have to be concerned with today is that we dont become decieved by denomic forces today and tomorrow that we trust with all our hearts and pray to be in the safe hands of Jesus, strong in the mind and heart.
This more than likely means overcoming everyday temtations and everyday problems and challenges, by staying strong in the lord and being a doer of word of Jesus and not just a hearer. This scripture is more than likely a reward and a treasure for all those who believe in Jesus.
We cant overcome by our selfs or lean on our own understanding of scriptures especially the mysteries of the Garden of eden and the cheribum if we do we will be doing exactly what genesis warns about,
And the Lord God said,
Genesis 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
We need to keep things simple we cant possibly comprehend the mysterios mind of god.
Some things your better of knowing for sake of your innocence we must put our hope and trust in Jesus. trying to works this mystery out is something i feal God does not want his chidren focusing on. The Good news is there are now good cheribums guarding the tree of life and no doubt the the tree of knowledge.
Moving forward any illusion created has now been defeated by Jesus.
The main illusion we have to be concerned with today is that we dont become decieved by denomic forces today and tomorrow that we trust with all our hearts and pray to be in the safe hands of Jesus, strong in the mind and heart.
Maybe the good Cherubim only hide Christ to allow Free Will. The parts of this reality that allow sin might be on satan.
Is the dominion God gave us, physicality? Did we hand over authority of it to satan? Did that include spiritual keys? Did the illusion of fallen time, sin, corruption, death, decay, disorder, and degradation start after doing so?
Is the dominion God gave us, physicality? Did we hand over authority of it to satan? Did that include spiritual keys? Did the illusion of fallen time, sin, corruption, death, decay, disorder, and degradation start after doing so?
yes they had no revelation in the ot
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one of the few glimpses we have of the afterlife is a teaching parable about the afterlife note three things 1 both men lives on earth and died , 2 neither man is now dead both are still conscious and 3 while they both are in the afterlife prople they knew in life are still living on earth heaven and hell And the earth are all happening simultaneously or concurrently
watch the poor man gathered to his people where Abraham went
“There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:
the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.”
Luke 16:19-20, 22-
this really is the most informative example in scripture about the afterlife that occurs before and until the return of Jesus . I don’t look at it like Jesus telling a historical account of two men but is teaching people about the afterlife
I personally feel as if the afterlife has been misunderstood and mis represented a lot. The most important part of the gospel to me , is what changes for believers when thoer body dies
you know the rich man and beggar there I find a good example here of where these two men went and also in this a microcosm of the world
“And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
Luke 23:39-43 KJV
I would guess one went to abraham
And his people and the other was left to the pit
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one of the few glimpses we have of the afterlife is a teaching parable about the afterlife note three things 1 both men lives on earth and died , 2 neither man is now dead both are still conscious and 3 while they both are in the afterlife prople they knew in life are still living on earth heaven and hell And the earth are all happening simultaneously or concurrently
watch the poor man gathered to his people where Abraham went
“There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:
the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.”
Luke 16:19-20, 22-
this really is the most informative example in scripture about the afterlife that occurs before and until the return of Jesus . I don’t look at it like Jesus telling a historical account of two men but is teaching people about the afterlife
I personally feel as if the afterlife has been misunderstood and mis represented a lot. The most important part of the gospel to me , is what changes for believers when thoer body dies
you know the rich man and beggar there I find a good example here of where these two men went and also in this a microcosm of the world
“And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
Luke 23:39-43 KJV
I would guess one went to abraham
And his people and the other was left to the pit
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Does Judaism understand what the bronze snake on a pole represents in Numbers 21:4-9? If God told Moses to make a Cross instead, would that have prevented the future crucifixion of Jesus to complete His mission?
They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,[1] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!" 6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, "We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us." So Moses prayed for the people. 8 The Lord said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.
They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,[1] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!" 6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, "We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us." So Moses prayed for the people. 8 The Lord said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.
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this was the issue with the mosaic law and Old Testament . The for fire like the bronze snake was a pre telling or more prophetic figure of Jesus who was to come forth one day
“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
John 3:14-15
so we have this figure of the cross and Jesus who is able to save those who look to him even though they have been poisoned by sin if they turn to him they can live . If we only acknowledge this part regarding the bronze serpent it gives one perspective but if we go on to see what happened to the bronze serpent and pole because they wouldn’t repent then it offers a deeper understanding
The people had after began to worship the brazen serpent and it was destroyed by the lord and made the “ cross” which he gave them for salvation the diety and rejected his words so this happened
“He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.”
2 Kings 18:4 KJV
when we try to forget about Jesus and look to the cross it’s the same we’re inviting Gods wrath . Imagine you were a billionaire and took all your money and bought homes for homeless who were about to freeze to death and paid all thier heating bills , filled thoer frodge every month ect
and you said to them , now you have to change what lead you to become homeless if you do this I have a mansion waiting for you .
But then they all just are thankful to and worship the temporary house you have them to stave off their demise so they could get that mansion you have waiting
but what you said is no longer important because they have a warm house they don’t care about what you said about the mansion even though you told them the city thier house is on is going to burn down soon
Gods warnings in scripture will
Come that’s the source of his wrath , our refusal to hear him invites it because part of his word warns us against it all telling us the wrath is coming so you need to get out of the way trust me he said it’s coming hear me and believe and be saved he said
of the people don’t believe there’s a mansion thier house seems permanent
“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
John 3:14-15
so we have this figure of the cross and Jesus who is able to save those who look to him even though they have been poisoned by sin if they turn to him they can live . If we only acknowledge this part regarding the bronze serpent it gives one perspective but if we go on to see what happened to the bronze serpent and pole because they wouldn’t repent then it offers a deeper understanding
The people had after began to worship the brazen serpent and it was destroyed by the lord and made the “ cross” which he gave them for salvation the diety and rejected his words so this happened
“He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.”
2 Kings 18:4 KJV
when we try to forget about Jesus and look to the cross it’s the same we’re inviting Gods wrath . Imagine you were a billionaire and took all your money and bought homes for homeless who were about to freeze to death and paid all thier heating bills , filled thoer frodge every month ect
and you said to them , now you have to change what lead you to become homeless if you do this I have a mansion waiting for you .
But then they all just are thankful to and worship the temporary house you have them to stave off their demise so they could get that mansion you have waiting
but what you said is no longer important because they have a warm house they don’t care about what you said about the mansion even though you told them the city thier house is on is going to burn down soon
Gods warnings in scripture will
Come that’s the source of his wrath , our refusal to hear him invites it because part of his word warns us against it all telling us the wrath is coming so you need to get out of the way trust me he said it’s coming hear me and believe and be saved he said
of the people don’t believe there’s a mansion thier house seems permanent
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What dominion did God give us other than to have dominion to rule over the animals, ?
Satan only has power over you if you dont keep your house in order or say if you have a drug addiction and not of sound mind or drunk etc, but if we sin as christians we have a advocate with the father. If we follow Jesus he has no power on this earth what so ever for you or i.
Are You talking about plannet earth being a dominion ?
Satan just takes advantage and takes for himself this is the only power he has in this world. He steals from everybody in some way. Satan and his army only have power when people are blind to his ways. Jesus christ holds the spiritual keys
Satan only has power over you if you dont keep your house in order or say if you have a drug addiction and not of sound mind or drunk etc, but if we sin as christians we have a advocate with the father. If we follow Jesus he has no power on this earth what so ever for you or i.
Are You talking about plannet earth being a dominion ?
Satan just takes advantage and takes for himself this is the only power he has in this world. He steals from everybody in some way. Satan and his army only have power when people are blind to his ways. Jesus christ holds the spiritual keys
Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
How does this happen without physicality?
dominion: a territory under the control of a ruler
We handed control over to a ruler ..satan ..to become lowercase gods ..to be about ourselves ..to sin ..the corrupt illusion (lie) ..wisdom of death
A lowercase god doesn't think it needs a Creator God. We need The Way to forgive us for this mess we caused.
John 10:34
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
It's about not being a lowercase god anymore and becoming one with the True God via a renewed spirit. It can't be completed until we are out of our corrupt flesh, but you have to initiate (open the door) while physically living.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
How does this happen without physicality?
dominion: a territory under the control of a ruler
We handed control over to a ruler ..satan ..to become lowercase gods ..to be about ourselves ..to sin ..the corrupt illusion (lie) ..wisdom of death
A lowercase god doesn't think it needs a Creator God. We need The Way to forgive us for this mess we caused.
John 10:34
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
It's about not being a lowercase god anymore and becoming one with the True God via a renewed spirit. It can't be completed until we are out of our corrupt flesh, but you have to initiate (open the door) while physically living.
A dead spirit is a lowercase god spirit only out for itself. A renewed spirit is resurrecting God's spirit to the status it belongs inside us. Our connection and perception is reconnected to God via the spirit.
satan can't prevent us renewing our spirit anymore, but this fallen reality ..is mostly still fallen until Judgement.
satan can't prevent us renewing our spirit anymore, but this fallen reality ..is mostly still fallen until Judgement.
satan's lie, that we could make our own rules, is an illusion of being separated from God. It is death to God's point of view because we are using His spirit to sin which causes God to stop knowing us on a Holy-Spiritual level. sin causes us to be destined to the lake of fire where there will be real separation.
We can't renew our corrupted flesh/soul, God has to do that for us. God is going to renew those that renewed their spirit. (spiritual circumcision) and kept the Faith.
Idea partially from Violette LeFleur
Idea partially from Violette LeFleur
Hi hope your ok today. Im praying for you joe your focusing to much on satan. I feal strongly that some of the questions youve uploaded from quora websites on the internet may well be from satanists. Because they really are worrying questions confusing and frightening at times that give to much power to satan.
This is why we should pray to Jesus thats where im running to right now.
This is why we should pray to Jesus thats where im running to right now.