Does satan hide The Way to the Tree of Life? Do Cherubim hide the Tree itself?

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pittsburghjoe

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Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Exo 26:31
“You shall make a veil woven of blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and fine woven linen. It shall be woven with an artistic design of cherubim.

The veil has symbols of cherubim. I think it is telling us how this reality is setup.​
Cherubim hide the Tree of Life ..via the vail

2 Corinthians 3:15-16
But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

The Ark of the Covenant even had Cherubim on it.​

satan hides The Way to the Tree of Life by blinding minds

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



https://biblereasons.com/spiritual-blindness/
 

posthuman

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God is the one keeping the way. Because He's good.

We have to answer why God did not want Adam and Eve eating from it, that is, why it would not be good if they did after they had eaten from the tree that causes dying?
 

pittsburghjoe

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God is the one keeping the way. Because He's good.

We have to answer why God did not want Adam and Eve eating from it, that is, why it would not be good if they did after they had eaten from the tree that causes dying?
God was starting the Meaning of Life by not letting them eat from the Tree of Life. They would have had a free pass back into Heaven. The reason we are here is to Find God through The Way to the Tree of Life.
 

PennEd

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This is kinda an exercise in futility as the Garden of Eden itself is hidden.

Conclusively since at least Noah’s flood.
 

posthuman

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God was starting the Meaning of Life by not letting them eat from the Tree of Life. They would have had a free pass back into Heaven. The reason we are here is to Find God through The Way to the Tree of Life.
We have to pass through the blood of Christ to reach it. He is the flaming sword keeping the way - it would be "not good" of Adam had gone and eaten of it before Jesus offered Humself: He is THE WAY

Brings up an interesting question, why didn't Adam and Woman go eat from the tree of life immediately after eating from the tree that brought death? They had time, but they spent it sewing fig leaves and hiding instead. Why? Whose idea was it? Did Satan wa t them to eat from the tree of life in their death-state? Was that his plan, but Adam, who Satan could not deceive, thwarted it by keeping himself and his wife away from it until God appeared and prevented them from reaching it?
 

posthuman

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This is kinda an exercise in futility as the Garden of Eden itself is hidden.

Conclusively since at least Noah’s flood.
Not unlike God hiding Himself in humanity in the person of Christ Jesus ;)
 
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This is kinda an exercise in futility as the Garden of Eden itself is hidden.

Conclusively since at least Noah’s flood.
Really? I'd kinda like to read more about that, if you've got the time.
 

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God was starting the Meaning of Life by not letting them eat from the Tree of Life. They would have had a free pass back into Heaven. The reason we are here is to Find God through The Way to the Tree of Life.
This is kinda an exercise in futility as the Garden of Eden itself is hidden.

Conclusively since at least Noah’s flood.

not at all futile because..... Jesus is the Tree of Life.


SCRIPTURE READING: Revelation 22:1-4, 12a, 13-14

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads.

“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.


the First tree (Tree of Life), and the Last tree (Tree of Life) found by those who overcome the Second tree (Tree of Knowledge).
 

pittsburghjoe

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Enjoying this reality is an insult to God the Father because we are partially disconnected while here.
Put down your pride/aspiration of man and see this place for what is really is. "overcome the Second tree (Tree of Knowledge). "
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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It seems that the Bible says that God is the one Who has hidden the way to the Tree of Life.

Romans 11:7-8 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear."
 

pittsburghjoe

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It seems that the Bible says that God is the one Who has hidden the way to the Tree of Life.

Romans 11:7-8 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear."
Well, God placed the Cherubim, but Cherubim don't hide The Way, they hide the Tree. Reading the Bible isn't a free pass, you have to look with your Heart.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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God was starting the Meaning of Life by not letting them eat from the Tree of Life. They would have had a free pass back into Heaven. The reason we are here is to Find God through The Way to the Tree of Life.
I just read of your reply (should be above) and thought to myself, "Hmmm . . . I better start reading up this thread. Sure enough . . . I found this little gem of yours right here. Dude . . . you are seeing what God wants us all to see. In fact, I'll bet that you might even be able to see the chronological Bible in your mind . . . a long series of unbelievable events that all lead to one point . . . one purpose. It is a beautiful, incredible Bible once we begin to see what it is that God wants us all to see. Oh . . . the Power of God is first and foremost, but to eat of that Tree of Life, to be Circumcised by Christ . . . this is the objective of the Bible, the Almighty, Eternal Plan of God!

Whew . . . got me worked up.
 

pittsburghjoe

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I just read of your reply (should be above) and thought to myself, "Hmmm . . . I better start reading up this thread. Sure enough . . . I found this little gem of yours right here. Dude . . . you are seeing what God wants us all to see. In fact, I'll bet that you might even be able to see the chronological Bible in your mind . . . a long series of unbelievable events that all lead to one point . . . one purpose. It is a beautiful, incredible Bible once we begin to see what it is that God wants us all to see. Oh . . . the Power of God is first and foremost, but to eat of that Tree of Life, to be Circumcised by Christ . . . this is the objective of the Bible, the Almighty, Eternal Plan of God!

Whew . . . got me worked up.
We can sum up the Bible in three words "Open the Door". The Bible is a guide, you use the guide to pass the test. I think the meanings change after you believe. Atheists like to say they read the whole Bible, but they are not unlocking it's potential because they are interpreting it the way they want. They are only looking for excuses ..hardened heart.
 

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Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Exo 26:31
“You shall make a veil woven of blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and fine woven linen. It shall be woven with an artistic design of cherubim.

The veil has symbols of cherubim. I think it is telling us how this reality is setup.​
Cherubim hide the Tree of Life ..via the vail

2 Corinthians 3:15-16
But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

The Ark of the Covenant even had Cherubim on it.​

satan hides The Way to the Tree of Life by blinding minds

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



https://biblereasons.com/spiritual-blindness/
I cant wait to eat of the new tree of life yum yum all that new mana.
I see the tree of life in the Garden of eden as the father and the flaming sword protecting the tree of life as the son Jesus the bread of life. The tree of life and the bread of life work together in the heavens and in us to. I dont think the tree of life is hiden in every aspect.
Only one aspect is hiden and blocked and that would be the highway to heaven for now at least. Unless you get chosen to visit the heavenly tree of life. You could be taken there in a dream or a vision, but make no mistake we are all created from the tree life and the tree of the life lives in all our hearts, as the father said in the old testiment under a new covenant that he would place all his statutes which includes his riches in our hearts.
And make no mistake about it if you accept Jesus with all your heart. This seals the deal.
Its a given that The flaming sword in the shape of a cross will also protect your tree of life in your heart.
We have the heavenly spiritual tree of life but also we have the earthly tree of life, that lives in our heart and mind which is not blocked and can become more open if you come to understand the simplicity of the wonderful creation that lives in mankind.
The wondefull tree of life in your heart is just waiting to be searched for you to seek with your heart. and just waiting to be loaded and spring up life a fountain of youth sprouting almonds lol.
 

pittsburghjoe

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Luke 14:33 via

So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Psalm 37 (via Stephen Pierce)
Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.

2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.

3 Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.


11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

12 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.


15 Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.

16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
 

pittsburghjoe

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We relinquish our spiritual authority to sin/separate from God. We need to relinquish our pride/aspiration of fallen man, to get it back. To find The Way to the Tree of Life.
 

MattforJesus

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God is the one keeping the way. Because He's good.

We have to answer why God did not want Adam and Eve eating from it, that is, why it would not be good if they did after they had eaten from the tree that causes dying?
The only tree that was forbidden to eat was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which it seems they could eat from the tree of life.

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Gen 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

When Adam and Eve were in their innocent nature it was alright for them to eat of the tree of life for only the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was not allowed to eat.

But when they ate of the forbidden tree and became sinful then if they would of eaten from the tree of life then they would of remained in that sinful state forever with no reversal, and all their offspring would be in a sinful state forever, which then there is no savior for mankind for they cannot be saved.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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But when they ate of the forbidden tree and became sinful then if they would of eaten from the tree of life then they would of remained in that sinful state forever with no reversal, and all their offspring would be in a sinful state forever, which then there is no savior for mankind for they cannot be saved.
The Tree of Life is Christ . . . and this early picture of Christ that you have provided above, is there to tell us that all of humanity would have to wait for Jesus to die and pay for their sins. To eat from the Tree of Life is to be Purified.

If you want to understand Genesis 3:22-24, you've got to compare it to Colossians 2:9-15, the single most important Seven Perfect Verses in the entire Bible.