Does saved by grace, not under law cancel the 119th Psalm?

[preacher4truth]

So, you are claiming the Bible doesn't mean what it says?
That's a slippery slope. But a good explanation of where you are coming from.

It means what it says, you just don't know what it means.

You seem Catholic. Are you?

Also, you cut off the evidence from the post that shows your error. Wonder why.

 

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I make this of it: You know what the passage says, not what it means.



So you think Jesus broke the Law? LOL!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you need to stop, you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you would have been there too to tell Christ he broke his own law. Yes? So this is where you come up with your false teaching, misunderstanding Scripture? Goodness sake, man.

Yep, that's where you get it. Even Catholics worries about people getting a Bible in their hands and you prove its fear valid!

Anyhow:

Because he not only had broken the Sabbath. When the Evangelist says that the Jews were hostile to Christ, because he had broken the Sabbath, he speaks according to the opinion which they had formed; for I have already showed that the state of the case was quite the contrary. - Jean Calvin

"...through the one mans obedience many were made righteous..." Romans 5:19

There it is, proof. Assuredly though you will not learn, admit error, but will argue against Scripture and evidence.


And this:

so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous; not by their own obedience; nor by their own obedience and Christ's together; but by his sole and single obedience to the law of God: and the persons made righteous by it are not all the posterity of Adam, and yet not a few of them; but "many", even all the elect of God, and seed of Christ; these are all made righteous in the sight of God, are justified from all their sins, and entitled to eternal life and happiness. - John Gill

I quoted the Bible. Who are you quoting?

 

[preacher4truth]

I quoted the Bible. Who are you quoting?

You didn't see the names? What, you can't read??????

I gave you a passage, you can't see?????

Quote all the Bible you want, we'll give you the meaning to help you.

 

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It means what it says, you just don't know what it means.

You seem Catholic. Are you?

Also, you cut off the evidence from the post that shows your error. Wonder why.

You don't know what it says, so how could you know what it means?

 

[Sketch]

You didn't see the names? What, you can't read??????

I gave you a passage, you can't see?????

Quote all the Bible you want, we'll give you the meaning to help you.

Let's start with this. What does this have to do with the law?

Luke 24:44
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

 

[Sketch]

You seem Catholic. Are you?

Are you a Catholic hater?
Seems like it, when you use the word as a derogatory term. Unchristian as well. (bigotry/discrimination)
Are Catholics not allowed on CC?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

If a God changes in either nature or form then we know one thing, that God is not eternal. And if not eternal, it could not be the one true eternal God.

Thus, if the first covenant was not eternal then neither would be a second covenant, for if the first covenant waxed old then the second covenant was dead before it was written seeing that anything which is not eternal will not always exist, since the eternal having alway existed, does not change, and therefore will always exist.

So it doesn't surprise me this fact infuriates some religious people since it is written that men loved lies more than the truth. Of course I could be wrong so if you can identify anything in this universe which has always existed then I would be more than interested in your correction of my understanding the scriptures.

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The first covenant was perfect but man born through the seed of Adam could not keep the law because of the weakness of his flesh,he delighted In the law of GOD after the Inward man but he would see another law warring against the law of his mind and bringing him Into captivity to the law of sin which was In his flesh

So then GOD sent HIS WORD to earth manifested In flesh that man could actually see,enter JESUS.The man part of JESUS died on a cross satisfying the demand of GOD's perfect law for all those who believe In him and now the Issue Is faith,not sin.So you see the law Is perfect but man Is carnal sold under sin.

 

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Another one hiding behind Thumbs Down votes @BaptistBibleBeliever
You should invite the whole chicken coop. I'll give you a group rate.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Would you think not perfect in the sense of the law and the prophets. The two witnesses of God. The prophets in respect to the new testament prophets while the old testament prophets are in respect to the word law? One imperfect without the other ?

Since the book of Hebrews shows us the imperfections of the Old Covenant under the Law of Moses, that is what I had in mind. But since Scripture is God-breathed, it is automatically perfect from Genesis to Revelation. As far as David was concerned the Tanakh was "the Law of the LORD". As far as we are concerned, it is the whole Bible.

 

[preacher4truth]

Are you a Catholic hater?
Seems like it, when you use the word as a derogatory term. Unchristian as well. (bigotry/discrimination)
Are Catholics not allowed on CC?

Nope, I don't hate Catholics.

And you are Catholic. Correct?

 

[preacher4truth]

Let's start with this. What does this have to do with the law?

Luke 24:44
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

Nope. We've already started with Romans 5:19 which proves you to be in error.

Jesus fulfilled the law by obedience to it. You think Jesus broke his own law, that is what you posted, and I am correcting you.

 

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Since the book of Hebrews shows us the imperfections of the Old Covenant under the Law of Moses, that is what I had in mind. But since Scripture is God-breathed, it is automatically perfect from Genesis to Revelation. As far as David was concerned the Tanakh was "the Law of the LORD". As far as we are concerned, it is the whole Bible.

Finally. Someone that knows the definition of "the Law" (capital "L") As in the Books of the Law. Thank you!

 

[Sketch]

Nope, I don't hate Catholics.

And you are Catholic. Correct?

That seems a bit contradictory.
You obviously hate me.
And you think that I am Catholic.
But you claim that you don't hate Catholics.

Do you hate Protestants?

 

[preacher4truth]

That seems a bit contradictory.
You obviously hate me.
And you think that I am Catholic.
But you claim that you don't hate Catholics.

Do you hate Protestants?

Yep, you're Catholic. That explains a lot though.

 

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You think Jesus broke his own law...

How did you come to the conclusion that "the law" was Jesus' own law?

John 1:17
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

 

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Yep, you're Catholic. That explains a lot though.

How do you know for certain that I am Catholic?
And why is that a problem?

 

[preacher4truth]

How did you come to the conclusion that "the law" was Jesus' own law?

Uh, because Jesus is YHWH.

John 1:17
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

You really really need to get beyond knowing what a verse says to what it means...who gave Moses the law???? Himself?

 

[preacher4truth]

How do you know for certain that I am Catholic?
And why is that a problem?

First, you would have denied it if you weren't. You're the one making it a problem, not me.

 

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Uh, because Jesus is YHWH.



You really really need to get beyond knowing what a verse says to what it means...who gave Moses the law???? Himself?

Jesus differentiated between his commands and the Father's commands.

John 15:10
If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

 

[preacher4truth]

Jesus differentiated between his commands and the Father's commands.

John 15:10
If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

Jesus is YHWH.