Does The Book of Revelation Frighten You/

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Lafftur

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#82
God has created “man” (human male and female) in His own image or likeness… why????!!!!

Didn’t Satan tempt Eve saying….”you will be like God knowing good and evil.”?????

Wasn’t she already created in the image of God with Adam???!!!

Look, God wants the human race to be with Him and just like Him for all eternity….why???!!!! God wants to save the human race….why???!!!

Because God is LOVE. Love desires to love and be loved. God has created the human race in His image… only we can choose to love God the way He desires to be loved….with all our heart.

Know your value, and what you were created for…to know God intimately and to know His great love and desire for you….to be ONE with God for all eternity.
 
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RichMan

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#83
Always.

The Church is raptured. That leaves the Jewish Remnant to face the Tribulation.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

At the end of Tribulation, we find beheaded ones in Heaven also. Their heads did not fall off as they were ascending into the clouds to meet Jesus during the rapture.

Revelation 20:4

“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”

These had obviously entered into the Tribulation. It is possible that there may be some gentiles in this group as well.
Those verses does not prove what you stated.
 

mustaphadrink

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The best way to deal with any fear is to believe what God says in his word. The church by and large has a favorite saying when it comes to the word of God and that is "Yes but..."

When I was writing my dissertation on the New Testament Church for my Ph.D. I spoke to several denominational leaders and asked them a question. Something like this...You do so and so but the Bible says this...The reply in every case was "Yes but..."

If one does not accept the bible in its entirety, everything is open to challenge and that is what the church does. ATM the Anglican church is tearing itself apart with the homosexual issue. The true believers have said no to same-sex marriage and no to the ordination of homosexuals and lesbians. The CHINOS have embraced it in its entirety and do not demand they reject their sin. Once you let the fly in the door you let all sorts of interpretations fly in to avoid the truth (fear) of God which is the beginning of wisdom.

Once that takes hold, anything goes because you have to make up your own interpretation as you go along for anything and everything. Once that happens everything becomes relevant and the conversation becomes "Did God say?" and you know who put that idea into people's minds.
 

Lafftur

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#85
The best way to deal with any fear is to believe what God says in his word. The church by and large has a favorite saying when it comes to the word of God and that is "Yes but..."

When I was writing my dissertation on the New Testament Church for my Ph.D. I spoke to several denominational leaders and asked them a question. Something like this...You do so and so but the Bible says this...The reply in every case was "Yes but..."

If one does not accept the bible in its entirety, everything is open to challenge and that is what the church does. ATM the Anglican church is tearing itself apart with the homosexual issue. The true believers have said no to same-sex marriage and no to the ordination of homosexuals and lesbians. The CHINOS have embraced it in its entirety and do not demand they reject their sin. Once you let the fly in the door you let all sorts of interpretations fly in to avoid the truth (fear) of God which is the beginning of wisdom.

Once that takes hold, anything goes because you have to make up your own interpretation as you go along for anything and everything. Once that happens everything becomes relevant and the conversation becomes "Did God say?" and you know who put that idea into people's minds.
Well, keep in mind… all denominations are man-made…so, the door has always been left wide open for all kinds of flies….
 

Lafftur

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#86
Best to read the Holy Bible and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding…

If you @mustaphadrink - ask the Holy Spirit for one!
 

Lafftur

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That is presumption on your part. (Ask the Holy Spirit for one what? )
If you are thirsty and must have a drink, ask the Holy Spirit…

Out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water…

Read John 14, find out the precious gift of the Holy Spirit Jesus Christ died so we could have… go read and find out!
 

mustaphadrink

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If you are thirsty and must have a drink, ask the Holy Spirit…

Out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water…

Read John 14, find out the precious gift of the Holy Spirit Jesus Christ died so we could have… go read and find out!
Now answer the question.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#90
God has created “man” (human male and female) in His own image or likeness… why????!!!!

Didn’t Satan tempt Eve saying….”you will be like God knowing good and evil.”?????

Wasn’t she already created in the image of God with Adam???!!!

Look, God wants the human race to be with Him and just like Him for all eternity….why???!!!! God wants to save the human race….why???!!!

Because God is LOVE. Love desires to love and be loved. God has created the human race in His image… only we can choose to love God the way He desires to be loved….with all our heart.

Know your value, and what you were created for…to know God intimately and to know His great love and desire for you….to be ONE with God for all eternity.
Wasn’t she already created in the image of God with Adam???!!!”


Amen that was the deception ,
God seperate d food and evil and the. Made man in his image , that’s why it was forbidden man was already made right and whole and complete

the knowledge of good and evil corrupted us and made is wrong placed us in a struggle now with sin and death that was never intended to be our state

“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5-6, 12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We were never supposed to become wicked and sinful it was the devils Will



“become as gods “ is less than the image of God , his children and reflection of his nature in earth

there are many “ gods “ but one God . And many religions but one family of God in Christ his son

have you ever noticed sister before sin

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

After transgression

“Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and then after atonement

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:26-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The beginning is when they lost thier rightful place and fell into sin and death



and the end is when he’s restoring and reconciling creation to its inheritance
 

oyster67

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That is presumption on your part. (Ask the Holy Spirit for one what? )
Not.
God giveth understanding through the Spirit.

That is a fact on the Bibles part....

1 Corinthians 2:10
“But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.”

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oyster67

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Those verses does not prove what you stated.
That is not their purpose. They are to show us truth. If you want to ignore them, that is your prerogative.

If you do not believe that the Tribulation concerns the Jewish people as well as gentiles, that is fine with me. I will not force Truth down your throat.

btw, I will not be providing Scripture proving that the sky is blue, so don't even go there. Split hair on someone else's head, because I don't have any left. :rolleyes:
 

mustaphadrink

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Not.
God giveth understanding through the Spirit.

That is a fact on the Bibles part....

1 Corinthians 2:10
“But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.”

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Ask the Holy Spirit for one not??????
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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It would be scary if we hadn't been forewarned. As it is The Revelation prophecies have told us what to expect.
 

Diakonos

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Can you give me Scripture to support what you believe?
Isa 4:2-3, Isa 11:11-16, Isa 65:18-24, Jer 23:3-8, Jer 33:14-17, Jer 50:4-20, Ezek 34:11-30, Ezek 36:38, Dan 9:24-27, Zech 8:6-23, Mal 4:2-5, 1 Thes 5:1-11.
 
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RichMan

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Isa 4:2-3, Isa 11:11-16, Isa 65:18-24, Jer 23:3-8, Jer 33:14-17, Jer 50:4-20, Ezek 34:11-30, Ezek 36:38, Dan 9:24-27, Zech 8:6-23, Mal 4:2-5, 1 Thes 5:1-11.
None of those Scriptures proves the Saints that the anti-christ makes war on are the Jewish remnant as you stated in post #68
 

Diakonos

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None of those Scriptures proves the Saints that the anti-christ makes war on are the Jewish remnant as you stated in post #68
If you aren't connecting the dots, then let's establish some common ground before we proceed.

1. What do you know about the Day of the Lord according to Scripture?
2. What do you know about the eschatological Jewish remnant according to Scripture?
 
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RichMan

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If you aren't connecting the dots, then let's establish some common ground before we proceed.

1. What do you know about the Day of the Lord according to Scripture?
2. What do you know about the eschatological Jewish remnant according to Scripture?
It is not about connecting dots. To do so can be used to prove anything you wish.
Why not just read the Scripture and believe what is states.
This is all about those who believe in a pre-tribulation "rapture of the church" reaching for a way to identify the Saints that are president during the tribulation.
Thus, connect the dots.