Does YOUR FAITH heal you?Name it claim it! YAY!!
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Yes,but at that time Jesus was trying to show Israel that He is the Messiah,and from God,by the miracles He did,which He said,if you do not believe the words that I am telling you,then believe Me for the works that I do,that I am from God,but of course Jesus wanted to heal them because He loves them.
Also it was not spiritual yet,where the body does not matter,but the spiritual matters,for Paul asked God to remove a thorn in the flesh from him three times,in which God did not do it,but said,My grace is sufficient for you,so Paul said,very well then,I will glory in my infirmities,for when I am weak,then I am strong,for the power of Christ rests upon me.
So it appears as if some people not being healed is a better spiritual position for them,to keep them humble,to depend on God,to learn that God's grace is enough,not the soundness of the body.
But although God might not heal someone physically,I tend to believe that God will always heal the mind,or not let anything happen to the mind,for God has given us power,love,and a sound mind,it does not say He has given us a sound body.
Also it was not spiritual yet,where the body does not matter,but the spiritual matters,for Paul asked God to remove a thorn in the flesh from him three times,in which God did not do it,but said,My grace is sufficient for you,so Paul said,very well then,I will glory in my infirmities,for when I am weak,then I am strong,for the power of Christ rests upon me.
So it appears as if some people not being healed is a better spiritual position for them,to keep them humble,to depend on God,to learn that God's grace is enough,not the soundness of the body.
But although God might not heal someone physically,I tend to believe that God will always heal the mind,or not let anything happen to the mind,for God has given us power,love,and a sound mind,it does not say He has given us a sound body.
Kaylagirl, that correct for the time when our Lord walked on earth! But show me the proof that he is doing it through the whole churchhistoriy till today! It is not because he could not do it, but it is not his goal for us. For him it is much more important to save us for eternety then to heal our physical body. We all have to die on any sickness, accident ore something else.
And also all the people which he healed died finally, most at any diseases. And Lazarus finaly also died. The goal of the Lords healings and miracles we find in John 20,29-31:
Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you might have life through his name.
And also all the people which he healed died finally, most at any diseases. And Lazarus finaly also died. The goal of the Lords healings and miracles we find in John 20,29-31:
Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you might have life through his name.
I let others be the judge of that. In regards to Joseph Prince, the Lord orchestrated events in such a way that I got one of his books to learn about God's grace. The Lord used his book to allow me to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. I even had a dream where the Lord told me that He was going to be teaching me about His grace (as Jesus and I stood before two mirrors and the reflection in both were Jesus). This meaning, imputed righteousness, justification, and so on.
You say you see it one way and I another, but God has but one mouth. If there is a contradiction between what we are sharing, then shouldn't we like the Bereans search the scriptures? I said in another thread or post to you that all these people disagreeing simply disagree in method, but actually desire the same goal. That is something to keep in mind.
You say you see it one way and I another, but God has but one mouth. If there is a contradiction between what we are sharing, then shouldn't we like the Bereans search the scriptures? I said in another thread or post to you that all these people disagreeing simply disagree in method, but actually desire the same goal. That is something to keep in mind.
Cool dream!
-JGIG
It's been my experience that street preachers "called" to their ministry usually have a sterner message because their job is to warn the sinner of pending judgement. This was the way of John the Baptist, Jonah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, & others. If I were a street preacher, I wouldn't listen to a stranger's advice, either. They hear so much already they probably just filtered it out.
I would praise most of them who are trying because there's no way they can live off their ministry..... it's volunteer work. It's hard enough to get a "paid" pastor to get out there every once in a while.
An old indian proverb says "I will not judge my brother till I've walked a mile in his moccasins". Perhaps you should try it first.
I would praise most of them who are trying because there's no way they can live off their ministry..... it's volunteer work. It's hard enough to get a "paid" pastor to get out there every once in a while.
An old indian proverb says "I will not judge my brother till I've walked a mile in his moccasins". Perhaps you should try it first.
1. Ummm..... I just gave an example of biblical street preaching. I never said he was preaching the Gospel.
2. Ummm..... yes it is, just not the way it's done by many today.
Luke 24:44-49 (KJV)
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. [SUP]45 [/SUP]Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, [SUP]46 [/SUP]And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: [SUP]47 [/SUP]And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. [SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things. [SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
2. Ummm..... yes it is, just not the way it's done by many today.
Luke 24:44-49 (KJV)
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. [SUP]45 [/SUP]Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, [SUP]46 [/SUP]And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: [SUP]47 [/SUP]And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. [SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things. [SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Fair enough, but what about when I say that the Lord permitted me to go through a horrible motorcycle wreak that took all function from my dominate arm? I mean He is God right, He could have made the SUV turn to nerf right? or at least held my brachial plexus in my spine so I could still use my arm. So because He didn't do that He, in a sense, permitted it to happen. Yet He used this to break me down, I mean as low as one can get to really think about what's important in this world, then He took this disgusting person who's own mother walked out on him before age 1, ex-drug dealer, convict, violent fighter and proud of it, adulterous, and a whole LONG list of other stuff, and all that is way before we look at my thought life, and made him a new man. God used the hardest trial of my life to bring me to truth, and I will Praise Gods name until the day He takes me for this hardship I had to endure. Now we do agree that God did not "cause" my wreak, and I do not believe the Holy Spirit will develop cancer in someone either, so if that is what you meant then we are in agreement, but it sounds to me like you're suggesting that after we are saved and except Christ that we get some kind of free pass from the hardship of this world and I do not agree at all with that. I also praise God for my accident and the loss of this arm. Is that blaspheming the Holy Spirit in you view?
Good grief Polly! This is a scathing post. Mean to the core with words that whip the reader. It was just like reading swear words to my eyes and heart.
Matthew 23:13-33 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! [SUP]17 [/SUP]Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? [SUP]18 [/SUP]And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? [SUP]20 [/SUP]Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. [SUP]22 [/SUP]And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, [SUP]30 [/SUP]And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. [SUP]31 [/SUP]Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. [SUP]32 [/SUP]Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [SUP]33 [/SUP]Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Now that's scathing, wouldn't you say?
Why do I want to do that? I know who I'm posting to.
Yes, there IS a vast difference between the two.
Yes, there IS a vast difference between the two.
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You can go into some Third world country,and see the handiwork of the devil so clearly. You can see the evidence of where he has been.
We can stop it. We can reverse it. It is heaven sent to a desperate people. God comes,things get better,not worse.
Some do more than others.
The ones doing more,don't study and major on how to stop the power of God and demonize Gods warriors
We can stop it. We can reverse it. It is heaven sent to a desperate people. God comes,things get better,not worse.
Some do more than others.
The ones doing more,don't study and major on how to stop the power of God and demonize Gods warriors