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Takes to long to go over all of them, so I will just give you a link that talks about each point he made and rather they align with the bible or not.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/chace-gordon/exposing-a-heretic-joseph-prince/285347971502104
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Oh man this is awful KennethC., It just gives a list of what 'someone else' thinks about what he says. "It takes too long to go over all of them" apparently for that link too because they just had a longer list than you but no context... without context all there is - is "con"
God calls us to something higher.
even paul telling you. and to think why he spent time with spiritual gifts,
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.Galatians 2
Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
7 You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?8 This persuasion is not from him who calls you.9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump.10 I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view than mine, and the one who is troubling you will bear the penalty, whoever he is.11 But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed.12 I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!
13 For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."15 But if you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one another.
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.Galatians 2
Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
7 You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?8 This persuasion is not from him who calls you.9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump.10 I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view than mine, and the one who is troubling you will bear the penalty, whoever he is.11 But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed.12 I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!
13 For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."15 But if you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one another.
I looked at his list. It was next to nothing. Seemed to be a bunch of ranting with no reason behind any of it.
One stood out to me. One that not you or anyone on this forum would ever deny as anything but pure facts..... if they have read the Bible......
38-Jesus frequently broke the law of Moses to help sinners.
He did this all the time. It eventually got Him killed.
One stood out to me. One that not you or anyone on this forum would ever deny as anything but pure facts..... if they have read the Bible......
38-Jesus frequently broke the law of Moses to help sinners.
He did this all the time. It eventually got Him killed.
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I won't bother to search out the scores of times He openly and flagrantly violated the law of Moses. You should already be familiar with them. But we can start with His healing on the Sabbath. Then we will move to the Woman Caught in Adultery.... what does the Bible say about this GO READ IT. Jesus clearly went against the law of Moses. Then there was the time He touched the leper. Then letting the prostitute wash His feet. Even eating with the people He did was a violation of the law of Moses.
There are dozens more.
There are dozens more.
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post #210 sounds devilish, and we speak this by the power and permission
of God the Father and Jesus Christ, His Son.
MATT.12.12.
How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the Sabbath days.
(this is Christ correcting the 'pharisees' - He is definitely not acting 'unlawful'.
LEV.20:10.
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery
with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
(according the Levitical Law both parties, man and woman have to be present to be 'convicted of adultry' -
the practice was so common among the Pharisees that the Law was corrupted and only the woman was
brought to blame, but that is NOT what the Law says -
Christ recognized this abuse, it wasn't a 'legal proceeding' it was a SHAM.
of course, MOST of us know that it takes 'two' to commit adultery.
Christ heals according to the SPIRIT of the LAW and not always according to the letter.
it's up to the 'reader' to search these things out and NOT that Jesus Christ needs to be defended
for His RIGHTEOUSNESS and GRACE.
of God the Father and Jesus Christ, His Son.
MATT.12.12.
How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the Sabbath days.
(this is Christ correcting the 'pharisees' - He is definitely not acting 'unlawful'.
LEV.20:10.
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery
with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
(according the Levitical Law both parties, man and woman have to be present to be 'convicted of adultry' -
the practice was so common among the Pharisees that the Law was corrupted and only the woman was
brought to blame, but that is NOT what the Law says -
Christ recognized this abuse, it wasn't a 'legal proceeding' it was a SHAM.
of course, MOST of us know that it takes 'two' to commit adultery.
Christ heals according to the SPIRIT of the LAW and not always according to the letter.
it's up to the 'reader' to search these things out and NOT that Jesus Christ needs to be defended
for His RIGHTEOUSNESS and GRACE.
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Thanks for this! So simply put but powerful.
I've experienced the truth of these words.
I was hot, went lukewarm and got spued out, went cold and now I'm hot again.
This is my favourite verse at the moment and I pray I never lose sight of it ever again:
By Grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of God lest any man should boast!
I've experienced the truth of these words.
I was hot, went lukewarm and got spued out, went cold and now I'm hot again.
This is my favourite verse at the moment and I pray I never lose sight of it ever again:
By Grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of God lest any man should boast!
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The law didn't say one couldn't heal on the Sabbath. Their ADDITIONS to the law said one couldn't heal on the Sabbath. Heck, they said one could only spit on a rock on the sabbath and not in the dirt, because it made mortar.(making mud for the blind mans eyes)
The woman caught in adultery~~She was guilty, but the Jews did not follow the proper rules to convict her! They didn't have the eye witnesses at the trial.
Jesus Christ kept the Law perfectly. He broke many of the Jews man made rules.
The woman caught in adultery~~She was guilty, but the Jews did not follow the proper rules to convict her! They didn't have the eye witnesses at the trial.
Jesus Christ kept the Law perfectly. He broke many of the Jews man made rules.
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For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. (Heb 4:15)
since 1Jn 3:4 informs us sin is transgression of the law, Heb 4 tells us Christ never broke it.
however we may interpret His actions incorrectly, the plain truth of Scripture must stand.
tell me, do you yet deny penal substitutionary atonement?
if that's still your position i daresay all this may not matter so much to you.
since 1Jn 3:4 informs us sin is transgression of the law, Heb 4 tells us Christ never broke it.
however we may interpret His actions incorrectly, the plain truth of Scripture must stand.
tell me, do you yet deny penal substitutionary atonement?
if that's still your position i daresay all this may not matter so much to you.
I would have to agree with psychomon, Jesus was the perfect law keeper
Are you saying willie-t that Jesus was not perfect in every way?
Are you saying willie-t that Jesus was not perfect in every way?
He never once, however, violated "THE LAW OF GOD".
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. (Heb 4:15)
since 1Jn 3:4 informs us sin is transgression of the law, Heb 4 tells us Christ never broke it.
however we may interpret His actions incorrectly, the plain truth of Scripture must stand.
tell me, do you yet deny penal substitutionary atonement?
if that's still your position i daresay all this may not matter so much to you.
since 1Jn 3:4 informs us sin is transgression of the law, Heb 4 tells us Christ never broke it.
however we may interpret His actions incorrectly, the plain truth of Scripture must stand.
tell me, do you yet deny penal substitutionary atonement?
if that's still your position i daresay all this may not matter so much to you.
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