Don't Put God In A Box

[Blain]

this is where I'm at a loss with rationalizing with you, as I can't understand why this doesn't happen to you, I assume that maybe your damage as blocked some aspect of your emotional sences maybe even your chemical serotonin does not flow like others but my mind feels every attack and every agony of sin past future and present. Even the sins of Adam I feel the war inside me all the time.

No my brain damage doesn't block the emotional trauma it enhances it. One of the things I mentioned to you when we got into that arguement was the aspect of the mind vs the spirit. your using the mind a thing of the flesh so the attacks from the enemy are going to be a huge issue for you, you focused on the mind part but we wrestle against spirit and only the spirit can overcome a spiritual war.

You were very intune with the spirit before when that spark was made in you but I cannot help you if you don't listen.

 

[Fundaamental]

Is this what you are going through? don't get me wrong suffering is often times the best teacher but the suffering your talking about the agony of sin the mind suffering basically everything you asre saying this kind of suffering isn't the suffering I know of. The suffering I experience doesn't tear me down it motivates me it activates me my mind is not confused or suffering I go by the spirit of God not my mind

The fruits of the spirit is not suffering it is the opposite suffering is not meant to be embbeded into us it is a result of ruler of this world the devil that caused the fall of man but the suffering is also something that more than anything I have seen bring his children together.

But the results bring hope and encourages us it stregthens us and builds us

The forces of hell want us to believe that we are much less than what we are but what does the bible say? It says no power of hell can stand against us, if he is for us who can be against us? It speaks of us being grafted into his kingdom given crowns and authority in Christ.

The authority think about that,I don't remember if I told about the demons that sawrmed me when I started this journey on cc but I went from being under their attacks to standing above them sending them back to hell. not by scripture not by the words I spoke but because of the authroity I knew I stood in.

but yet Jesus felt every agony of sin and suffered.

We reçieve the same fruits of the spirit Jesus had.

As Jesus prayed befor he left he said let them be one with you father as I have been,

But yet you say you don't suffer this way.

Or that oppression doesn't cause you agony.

I only have to go one day without hearing from God and I fall into despair.

I don't know what caused you to feal you lost what he had as friends but I have a feeling it's it because I don't believe in pre trib

You say there was a spark between us, well that was on me i gave you that spark with the help of the prayer.
I made the effort to make a connection with you,
This was lost dew to you choosing to find fault and not letting go,

because you wanted me to see the error of my ways which where not living up to your expectations of how your friends should be.

Because you wouldn't accept a philosophy

You think I'm a babe in Christ but little do you know I have been reading the Bible since I was 7 years old. I've read it in french and English as well as my first lauguage Welsh.

Neither do you know my grandfather was a vicar.

Neither do you know my mum had a degree in theology, but I never got the full time to learn it all of her because of how young I was when she passed away.

But my knowledge was better than most kids I knew.
This is your doing the spark is not with you because your choosing to see doctrine as a bad thing when actual a doctrine is a set of church beliefs.

You feel you've heard it all before or that it's no longer worth your calling but then I think maybe the spirit has gone dry in you friend for not wanting to understand where your brother in Christ are coming from.

 

[Blain]

but yet Jesus felt every agony of sin and suffered.

We reçieve the same fruits of the spirit Jesus had.

As Jesus prayed befor he left he said let them be one with you father as I have been,

But yet you say you don't suffer this way.

Or that oppression doesn't cause you agony.

I only have to go one day without hearing from God and I fall into despair.

I don't know what caused you to feal you lost what he had as friends but I have a feeling it's it because I don't believe in pre trib

You say there was a spark between us, well that was on me i gave you that spark with the help of the prayer.
I made the effort to make a connection with you,
This was lost dew to you choosing to find fault and not letting go,

because you wanted me to see the error of my ways which where not living up to your expectations of how your friends should be.

Because you wouldn't accept a philosophy

You think I'm a babe in Christ but little do you know I have been reading the Bible since I was 7 years old. I've read it in french and English as well as my first lauguage Welsh.

Neither do you know my grandfather was a vicar.

Neither do you know my mum had a degree in theology, but I never got the full time to learn it all of her because of how young I was when she passed away.

But my knowledge was better than most kids I knew.
This is your doing the spark is not with you because your choosing to see doctrine as a bad thing when actual a doctrine is a set of church beliefs.

You feel you've heard it all before or that it's no longer worth your calling but then I think maybe the spirit has gone dry in you friend for not wanting to understand where your brother in Christ are coming from.

Jesus's agony was not the kind your talking about. He enever had any confusion his despair was an aching for the children of Israel and the suffering of the cross was his role and the very reason he came. The spark I was talking about was the spark I saw in you not the spark between us and no the rapture has nothing to do with this I'm not so petty that a difference in understanding of the rapture would do that. You fall into despair your mind is being attacked and you refuse to see what is going on here. Yes I told you that the things you were talking about were not of God and you think that isn't what a friend does but if I was on a path that was involving other religious things trying to combine it with the one true path of Christ would you let me fall into it and become lost? If it is such a horrible thing for you to be wrong about something and you become upset about it then what are you going to do if say you fall off the deep end consumed by these attacks how is anyone going to help you if you just see it as attacking?

Is it that hard to see the difference in us? your in agaony despair and you mind is being a mess, me however I have to deal with so much more than you do all my health issues that have allmost killed me four times this year my eyes going out with seemingly nothing we can do about it I am trapped in my apartment 24/7 in isolation for almost two years now I can't hardly even get help to get simple things like food and toilet paper and that isn't even the half of it either.

I have more than enough reason to be in despair to let the enmy overwhelm me but yet I have hope I know the joy of the Lord to where I dance for him I am visited by him often

Lets not forget what does the bible say the fruits of the spirit are?

 

[Fundaamental]

Jesus's agony was not the kind your talking about. He enever had any confusion his despair was an aching for the children of Israel and the suffering of the cross was his role and the very reason he came. The spark I was talking about was the spark I saw in you not the spark between us and no the rapture has nothing to do with this I'm not so petty that a difference in understanding of the rapture would do that. You fall into despair your mind is being attacked and you refuse to see what is going on here. Yes I told you that the things you were talking about were not of God and you think that isn't what a friend does but if I was on a path that was involving other religious things trying to combine it with the one true path of Christ would you let me fall into it and become lost? If it is such a horrible thing for you to be wrong about something and you become upset about it then what are you going to do if say you fall off the deep end consumed by these attacks how is anyone going to help you if you just see it as attacking?

Is it that hard to see the difference in us? your in agaony despair and you mind is being a mess, me however I have to deal with so much more than you do all my health issues that have allmost killed me four times this year my eyes going out with seemingly nothing we can do about it I am trapped in my apartment 24/7 in isolation for almost two years now I can't hardly even get help to get simple things like food and toilet paper and that isn't even the half of it either.

I have more than enough reason to be in despair to let the enmy overwhelm me but yet I have hope I know the joy of the Lord to where I dance for him I am visited by him often

Lets not forget what does the bible say the fruits of the spirit are?

Firstly I'm not confused
secondly Jesus did suffer anguish
And thirdly my mind is not a mess
And i have no problems with accepting I may be wrong.

Your problem is thinking I don't have this quality then sounding of from it.

I've pleaded with you for over a week to let things go and it's not happening

Reading through your post there's five false accusations against me,

Pointing the finger at the brethren is the action of our enemy because in your post there is not one but 8 yous of you are doing this and your doing that.

Luke
44 And being in anguish, Jesus prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.

Hebrews
Because He Himself [in His humanity] has suffered in being tempted, He is able to help and provide immediate assistance to those who are being tempted and exposed to suffering.

Corinthians
If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

If your brother suffers you should suffer with him. I

Peter
you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
10 And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.

There will come a time when you will suffer for a little while which is not a blink of an eye.

The renewal of your mind is needed everyday and it is not by your own accord, it is by the holy spirit.

Which indicates the mind is fragile and needs uplifting everyday.

I think your problem really is your own suffering friend, your just to proud to admit it, and would rather accuse other people of having no right to suffer because of how bad your afflictions are but yet you over come quite easily.

Friend I really do hope you get better soon

 

[Fundaamental]

No my brain damage doesn't block the emotional trauma it enhances it. One of the things I mentioned to you when we got into that arguement was the aspect of the mind vs the spirit. your using the mind a thing of the flesh so the attacks from the enemy are going to be a huge issue for you, you focused on the mind part but we wrestle against spirit and only the spirit can overcome a spiritual war.

You were very intune with the spirit before when that spark was made in you but I cannot help you if you don't listen.

oh well I guess I must be the next zombie on your list then

 

[Blain]

Firstly I'm not confused
secondly Jesus did suffer anguish
And thirdly my mind is not a mess
And i have no problems with accepting I may be wrong.

Your problem is thinking I don't have this quality then sounding of from it.

I've pleaded with you for over a week to let things go and it's not happening

Reading through your post there's five false accusations against me,

Pointing the finger at the brethren is the action of our enemy because in your post there is not one but 8 yous of you are doing this and your doing that.

Luke
44 And being in anguish, Jesus prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.

Hebrews
Because He Himself [in His humanity] has suffered in being tempted, He is able to help and provide immediate assistance to those who are being tempted and exposed to suffering.

Corinthians
If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

If your brother suffers you should suffer with him. I

Peter
you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
10 And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.

There will come a time when you will suffer for a little while which is not a blink of an eye.

The renewal of your mind is needed everyday and it is not by your own accord, it is by the holy spirit.

Which indicates the mind is fragile and needs uplifting everyday.

I think your problem really is your own suffering friend, your just to proud to admit it, and would rather accuse other people of having no right to suffer because of how bad your afflictions are but yet you over come quite easily.

Friend I really do hope you get better soon

You say you mind is not confused and not a mess but all these things your going through are the very essence of that. and you only proved my point with those verses, remember how
I said suffering doesn't tear me down it motivates me and activates me? after you highlighted anguished what does the scripture say after that? it made him pray more earnestly. Does your anguish do that?

 

[Blain]

oh well I guess I must be the next zombie on your list then

No your not. You may not want to be friends fine but I remember who you were that spark you had how you would go around making threads about the things he was teaching you where we could have gone hours talking with each other about him but if I thought that you were a (zombie) as you put it I wouldn't be trying so hard to reach you.

I know the potential you have so even if you don't want to be friends even if you block me I refuse to give up on you even if all I can do pray and prray and pray and pray

 

[Blain]

oh well I guess I must be the next zombie on your list then

I want you to listen to this song this is the stuff that speaks to me I hope it speaks to you.

 

[Fundaamental]

I want you to listen to this song this is the stuff that speaks to me I hope it speaks to you.

I like the song thanks
But I find I can only listen to instrumental music only
It's the only music where I can think for my self.
I can't think for my self when I listen to music with lyrics,
Music with lyrics only appeals to my heart, and brings me joy as I sing songs with lyrics.
But instrument music without lyrics calms my soul and elevates my prayer to sit in silence and wait in the lord for my mind to be renewed, and the best part is I don't have to sing.

 

[Fundaamental]

You say you mind is not confused and not a mess but all these things your going through are the very essence of that. and you only proved my point with those verses, remember how
I said suffering doesn't tear me down it motivates me and activates me? after you highlighted anguished what does the scripture say after that? it made him pray more earnestly. Does your anguish do that?

what's your understanding of this scripture


Ephesians
And do not bring sorrow to God’s Holy Spirit by the way you live. Remember, he has identified you as his own, guaranteeing that you will be saved on the day of redemption.


This is my understanding
Sorrow my friend is also Anguish and suffering

But you have chosen to see suffering and anguish as confusion and a messed up mind.

So you don't understand psychology as I do,
because one thing you don't do in psychology is assume someone's explanation of them explaining how they feal is because they have a messed up mind.

You of all people knew how I felt about this when I defended you for being thought of as being insane,

I have been very sensitive to your brain issues and health and mental well-being, but here you've chosen to do to me what you've had done to you.

And the one thing you should never do in psychology, is belittle sombodies mind to emphasize a point, because you put the patient in a worse place than when they came in.

How do I know all this, well I'm currently doing nighttime college in psychology because I'm planning a career in psychology.

I just want to build boats and help heal people's minds at the same time. And I really don't have to have a career in psychology I'm doing it for love.

Sorrow is a state of mind it's not a temporary feeling that disappears in 1 minute, it's a state of grief that longs for the holy spirit all day and to be back with there loved ones.

The holy spirit always suffers the same sorrow when it's children's cry out to be with Jesus.

 

[Fundaamental]

No your not. You may not want to be friends fine but I remember who you were that spark you had how you would go around making threads about the things he was teaching you where we could have gone hours talking with each other about him but if I thought that you were a (zombie) as you put it I wouldn't be trying so hard to reach you.

I know the potential you have so even if you don't want to be friends even if you block me I refuse to give up on you even if all I can do pray and prray and pray and pray

look just pm me and we will settle this once and for all.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Yrs that is exactly what I meanm wgeb I saw your response I just felt it you had what I have obtianed.

That is actually what were describing how you close your eyes and see the image that is something I do to too. I find it is easier to see when I can't. New Jerusalem I actually don't know much on that aside from it being in the 1000 year reign of Christ with a new heaven and new earth.

I remember being shown a golden city that looked like it was made of golden crystal like matrerial it was almost like glass looking or something.

Do you anything about a city like that?

Everything was always a bright goldish color whenever i could see this. I guess that could mean Gold.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I like the song thanks
But I find I can only listen to instrumental music only
It's the only music where I can think for my self.
I can't think for my self when I listen to music with lyrics,
Music with lyrics only appeals to my heart, and brings me joy as I sing songs with lyrics.
But instrument music without lyrics calms my soul and elevates my prayer to sit in silence and wait in the lord for my mind to be renewed, and the best part is I don't have to sing.

I prefer Spiritual Warfare Songs:

 

[Lafftur]

How many times have you heard this? When someone says don't put God in a box, aren't they really saying don't put God in the Bible? In other words, the box is the Bible.

I'm thinking you might be a little bit confused.... You're trying to turn the Bible into a Box.... No, the Bible is NOT a Box.

People twist the scriptures, Satan even used scriptures...

No, the Bible is NOT a Box, the Word of God is a Sword... The Sword of the Spirit of Truth in the hands of a Believer.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I'm thinking you might be a little bit confused.... You're trying to turn the Bible into a Box.... No, the Bible is NOT a Box.

People twist the scriptures, Satan even used scriptures...

No, the Bible is NOT a Box, the Word of God is a Sword... The Sword of the Spirit of Truth in the hands of a Believer.

LOL, I'm not the one confused.

 

[Blain]

I'm thinking you might be a little bit confused.... You're trying to turn the Bible into a Box.... No, the Bible is NOT a Box.

People twist the scriptures, Satan even used scriptures...

No, the Bible is NOT a Box, the Word of God is a Sword... The Sword of the Spirit of Truth in the hands of a Believer.

My precious friend if I could give a bow of respect to you I would you explained it so perfectly and with such heart I could feel your spirit as you were talking about how it is the sword of truth.

I haven't seen you in a very long time and found that spark you always had you know how I always said how I could always just feel this light from you this warmth kind of thing?

I am currently in deep training with Jesus and if I could tell you the things he has done shown and taught me he is so personal now that he literally room mates with me in my apartment

 

[Ruby123]

My precious friend if I could give a bow of respect to you I would you explained it so perfectly and with such heart I could feel your spirit as you were talking about how it is the sword of truth.

I haven't seen you in a very long time and found that spark you always had you know how I always said how I could always just feel this light from you this warmth kind of thing?

I am currently in deep training with Jesus and if I could tell you the things he has done shown and taught me he is so personal now that he literally room mates with me in my apartment

are you out of that place and in an apartment now Blain?, I hope so.

 

[Blain]

are you out of that place and in an apartment now Blain?, I hope so.

Oh yes I am I apologize I thought I told you. I have been in this apartment for almost a year now actually but lets just say the enemy has been pretty on point since the beginning of this year physically I am very weak now my health is so bad I have had to call 811 several times just for fluids and every which way I turned something got in the way to make it where my health would only get worse.

however though I suffer physically what I found with God is beyond what I dreampt of and it's only the start he goes so much deeper and I can't wait to see where he takes me next

 

[Ruby123]

Oh yes I am I apologize I thought I told you. I have been in this apartment for almost a year now actually but lets just say the enemy has been pretty on point since the beginning of this year physically I am very weak now my health is so bad I have had to call 811 several times just for fluids and every which way I turned something got in the way to make it where my health would only get worse.

however though I suffer physically what I found with God is beyond what I dreampt of and it's only the start he goes so much deeper and I can't wait to see where he takes me next

Really glad you are out of that horror house Blain and are enjoying your time with God.

 

[Lafftur]

My precious friend if I could give a bow of respect to you I would you explained it so perfectly and with such heart I could feel your spirit as you were talking about how it is the sword of truth.

I haven't seen you in a very long time and found that spark you always had you know how I always said how I could always just feel this light from you this warmth kind of thing?

I am currently in deep training with Jesus and if I could tell you the things he has done shown and taught me he is so personal now that he literally room mates with me in my apartment

Hello sweet Blain!

So sorry I haven’t been on CC consistently. I’m so glad your relationship with Jesus Christ is going deeper, closer, higher, wider, more and more!

Kind of makes the desires of the flesh less and less… and the Holy Spirit with God’s Word increases more and more…. refreshing our soul, giving light to our spirit and life to our body.

I practically have the audio Bible playing continuously softly in my bedroom 24/7, I love listening to it….

Tell me how you’re doing!!!