Dramatic, the end times will speedy up now.

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Evmur

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Spain, Ireland and Norway have voted to recognise a Palestinian state. You can be sure others will follow, perhaps Britain, perhaps Biden's USA.

In our Lord's Olivetti speech He says "you will hear of wars and rumours of war but the end is not yet, these are just the beginnings of sorrows" then the prophecy takes a turn and quite a dramatic one for He goes on "Nations will rise up against nations and kingdoms against kingdoms"

What the UN is voting for [and what they will surely get] is chaos, lawlessness. This is the conspiracy of the nations spoken about in the bible against God and His anointed.

We are heading in a bad place, now more than ever we need to watch and pray for things will happen on a sudden.
 

Dino246

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There are already several “Palestinian” states: Jordan, Lebanon, and Israel. The term is a misnomer. The “land for peace” c**p has been tried and has failed many times. The only way the non-Israelis will be satisfied is with the complete destruction of the state of Israel.

That said, the modern state of Israel is not the ancient people of Israel. Prophecy regarding the latter should not be force-fit to the former.
 

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Spain, Ireland and Norway have voted to recognise a Palestinian state. You can be sure others will follow, perhaps Britain, perhaps Biden's USA.

In our Lord's Olivetti speech He says "you will hear of wars and rumours of war but the end is not yet, these are just the beginnings of sorrows" then the prophecy takes a turn and quite a dramatic one for He goes on "Nations will rise up against nations and kingdoms against kingdoms"

What the UN is voting for [and what they will surely get] is chaos, lawlessness. This is the conspiracy of the nations spoken about in the bible against God and His anointed.

We are heading in a bad place, now more than ever we need to watch and pray for things will happen on a sudden.

In the Olivet discourse as well as other scripture,the persecution of the christians in Israel by the unbelieving Jews takes place before nation rises against nation and kingdom against kingdom.

You should pay attention to the Israeli goverment wanting to mark all of its people and the christians in Israel being killed first.

Then God will cause the nations around Israel to punish the people of Israel who reject Christ.

The verses below take place before nation rises against nation.Before Armegeddon.

Luke 21
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
 

Shilohsfoal

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The persecution of the christians in Israel,then nation rises against nation(armegeddon)


The persecution

Daniel 11:33
Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.



Then nation rises against nation (Armegeddon)

Daniel 11:40
“Then at the time of the end, the king of the south will attack the king of the north. The king of the north will storm out with chariots, charioteers, and a vast navy. He will invade various lands and sweep through them like a flood.
 

SomeDisciple

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Don't most states have stuff like armies and land that hasn't always been occupied by a foreign army?
 

Shilohsfoal

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Don't most states have stuff like armies and land that hasn't always been occupied by a foreign army?
Some people recognize Israel as being a state before 70 ad when it was occupied by the roman army.I guess because they had leaders much like the Palestinians.

Seems to be much the same thing though.

I find it amusing that the Israeli leaders are saying they shouldn't be compared to Hamas leaders because they were democratically elected.They don't consider Hitler was democratically elected as well.
 

SomeDisciple

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Some people recognize Israel as being a state before 70 ad when it was occupied by the roman army.I guess because they had leaders much like the Palestinians.
Some people recognize trannies as actual women, too; so, I probably shouldn't be so surprised.

Israel had a puppet state during that time. Prior to that, they had been self-governing. Palestine hasn't ever really been anything more than a proxy.
 

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op: end times "speedy up"?
Have they been "crawly down" for the past 1990 years? ;)
Yes.

Just one metric, but can be applied to just about everything, including prophecy.

The pioneers just 200-250 yrs ago traveled on average 8 miles per day.

I travel double that, both ways, in under a half hour, on my commute to work.
 

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Spain, Ireland and Norway have voted to recognise a Palestinian state. You can be sure others will follow, perhaps Britain, perhaps Biden's USA.

In our Lord's Olivetti speech He says "you will hear of wars and rumours of war but the end is not yet, these are just the beginnings of sorrows" then the prophecy takes a turn and quite a dramatic one for He goes on "Nations will rise up against nations and kingdoms against kingdoms"

What the UN is voting for [and what they will surely get] is chaos, lawlessness. This is the conspiracy of the nations spoken about in the bible against God and His anointed.

We are heading in a bad place, now more than ever we need to watch and pray for things will happen on a sudden.
We see in Ezekiel 37/38 God told Ezekiel He would defend the Land of Israel, not for the people's sake, but because Israel is His Inheritance in Deuteronomy 32. So we know it's the principle Land being spiritually at War here. So I agree with your views knowing that God made it so clear the Land of Israel is the Apple of His Eye.
 

Shilohsfoal

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Some people recognize trannies as actual women, too; so, I probably shouldn't be so surprised.

Israel had a puppet state during that time. Prior to that, they had been self-governing. Palestine hasn't ever really been anything more than a proxy.
They probably at least felt free before the antichrist Jews arrived.
It's ok though.After Lucifer king of Babylon (which is presently smiting the Palestinians with his rod)is destroyed,they will be able to celebrate for a few days.To them it would probably be worth death to watch Babylon destroyed .
 

Shilohsfoal

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We see in Ezekiel 37/38 God told Ezekiel He would defend the Land of Israel, not for the people's sake, but because Israel is His Inheritance in Deuteronomy 32. So we know it's the principle Land being spiritually at War here. So I agree with your views knowing that God made it so clear the Land of Israel is the Apple of His Eye.
God says in Ezekiel 37 that he would bring Israel up out of their graves and put his holy spirit in them ,then he will bring them into the land he promised Jacob.
Then in Ezekiel 37 God says he will put king David over them and he shall reign over them forever .

Then in Ezekiel 38 God says he will bring the nations against the land of Israel who's people live in peace and safety without walls.


I don't expect Messiah will need walls like antichrist Benjamin netanyahu does.Perhaps when Messiah comes and raises Israel up out of their graves as in Ezekiel 37,that he will throw down all the walls Benjamin netanyahu has built to protect himself and his people.
 

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God says in Ezekiel 37 that he would bring Israel up out of their graves and put his holy spirit in them ,then he will bring them into the land he promised Jacob.
Then in Ezekiel 37 God says he will put king David over them and he shall reign over them forever .

Then in Ezekiel 38 God says he will bring the nations against the land of Israel who's people live in peace and safety without walls.


I don't expect Messiah will need walls like antichrist Benjamin netanyahu does.Perhaps when Messiah comes and raises Israel up out of their graves as in Ezekiel 37,that he will throw down all the walls Benjamin netanyahu has built to protect himself and his people.
Dry Bones were partially erected in 1948. We're just waiting for the War to happen now. But I like how you're thinking (y)
 

Shilohsfoal

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Dry Bones were partially erected in 1948. We're just waiting for the War to happen now. But I like how you're thinking (y)

No,Israel has not been resurected yet.

Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

1-will open their graves and bring them up out of their graves
2-will put his holy spirit in them
3-Will bring them into their own land.




The only thing that happened in 1948 is the beast which had recieved a deadly wound was healed.


I'm waiting for the second beast to arrive in Israel.It will probably arrive in Israel soon after Donald Trump is reelected . The beast needs help .
 

FollowerofShiloh

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No,Israel has not been resurected yet.

Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

1-will open their graves and bring them up out of their graves
2-will put his holy spirit in them
3-Will bring them into their own land.




The only thing that happened in 1948 is the beast which had recieved a deadly wound was healed.


I'm waiting for the second beast to arrive in Israel.It will probably arrive in Israel soon after Donald Trump is reelected . The beast needs help .
You believe like you want to.

But Israel was dead for 1900 years and in 1948 it once again became a recognized "Revived" State and Nation.
 

Shilohsfoal

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You believe like you want to.

But Israel was dead for 1900 years and in 1948 it once again became a recognized "Revived" State and Nation.

Yes it appeared to have died.Then in 1948 it was healed.

Revelation 13
3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast





The whole world was filled with wonder and many have followed the beast from all nations,tongues and peoples.

Like I said,I'm waiting for the second beast to arrive in Israel.It will probably arrive next year after Trump is reelected.According to him,he is the only one who can keep Israel safe. And many believe him.
 

SomeDisciple

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They probably at least felt free before the antichrist Jews arrived.
Nope. They were revolting against the Ottoman Empire; and also, they were double-crossed by the British under British mandate. There has never been a free Arab-Palestine. It's always been under the control of some empire, caliphate, or crusaders or something.

's ok though.After Lucifer king of Babylon (which is presently smiting the Palestinians with his rod)is destroyed,they will be able to celebrate for a few days.To them it would probably be worth death to watch Babylon destroyed .
Sounds like a weird fantasy.... also dumb. Why should they die for a state that has never existed. The 2 state solution is probably one of the most retarded things ever conceived by men...
 

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Spain, Ireland and Norway have voted to recognise a Palestinian state. You can be sure others will follow, perhaps Britain, perhaps Biden's USA.

In our Lord's Olivetti speech He says "you will hear of wars and rumours of war but the end is not yet, these are just the beginnings of sorrows" then the prophecy takes a turn and quite a dramatic one for He goes on "Nations will rise up against nations and kingdoms against kingdoms"

What the UN is voting for [and what they will surely get] is chaos, lawlessness. This is the conspiracy of the nations spoken about in the bible against God and His anointed.

We are heading in a bad place, now more than ever we need to watch and pray for things will happen on a sudden.
Interesting. Could be