Dream interpretation

[Abiding]

 

[GreenNnice]

There there, littlesquirrelbuddy, a nice nutty cider for ya

 

[inge]

referencing examples from Acts does not mean those things are for today.
it means they are recorded in Acts.
you are not in the Book of the Acts of THE APOSTLES

Well Zone, WE are both not IN the Bible
Nor the church-teachers we read

I like to search the Bible like a good Berean. Oh yes I know people can use Bible-verses their own way and twist the meaning. But that is why I mentioned before not to just take one verse. 2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

I am going to mention here in 3 points what I do see in your comment if I do quote/understand something wrong let me know.
This is why you think the gifts of the Spirit are not for our time:

• The gifts did cease with Paul because he did heal less at the end of his life.

this is not entirely true. in fact we see Paul not teaching on the gifts, and unable to heal and far less focus on the gifts nearer the end of his ministry.

It is ceased with him? Lets assume it is true. When it ceases with Paul (he could heal less) it won't be a reason to believe it was the same with Peter too or John. No prove for that. What isn't mentioned cannot be put in the Bible. I don't add or take off.

• The gifts will cease because Paul mentions this.

we can trust the scriptures. Paul said the temporary gifts would cease, and they did.
i don't know why people are offended by this.

I think you refer than to the great poem in the Corinth letter? (If not let me know what other verse.)

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 1 Cor 13:8-10
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First of all did it say prophecy shall cease? No. Second if it still means the same...like failing is a sort of ceasing (if one says so) so than prophecy, tongues are ceasing and.... than knowledge is done too...nowadays. Hmmm I don't think so.

The perfect thing to come is not our time, I see no perfection right now... What is the perfection Paul talks about in verse 10? But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

I have searched on ceasing further in the Bible...but sorry, I could find no other references.

• The Bible testifies of periods.

The Bible testifies of three major periods of miraculous activity by God:
Exodus & Moses
Elijah and Elisha
Jesus & The Apostles.

You forget a period. The period after Jesus & the Apostles. These days are the last days until Jesus will return someday. Therefore the new testament often mentions this are the last days but also, in the last days...will come. (so present and future).

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Hebr 2:1
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 2Pet.3:3
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But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Acts 1:8
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I doubt that Jesus would say: uttermost part of the world thinking Peter or Paul would go into the bush-bush of Brazil...as happens nowadays. Jesus mentions it in one sentence the apostles and our time.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Act 2:39
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What promise?

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Act 2:38
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And with the Holy Ghost we receive gifts (as mentioned in the Bible) we show fruits and we walk in the Spirit. When someone says that gifts of the Spirit are not for now anymore....how can one be sure about that? Why only the gifts, why not fruits and walking also? Why exactly that part? Why all the explanations from Paul on how to use the gifts?

Jesus did not believe in periods either.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Math 5:18
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De law is still applicable to persons whom do not follow the 'law of the Spirit'. (Rom 8:4,5)

Determine.

can you explain how folks within the movement determine what is bad and what isn't?
it all sounds and looks the same, and people make the same claims.

Within the movement? I am not in any movement than in a personal moving by the Holy Spirit and relationship of Jesus Christ. So I can tell you how I determine what is bad or not.

1 I read the Bible, to gain knowledge of what is Christlike/ Biblical.

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so Act 17:11
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This is what Paul did teach the Thessalonians:​

Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil. 2 'Thes 5:19-21
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I guess they searched this too.....​

But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. Num 11:26
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And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them! Num 11:29
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Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest. Jes 32:15​

...as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, Ef 5:25,26
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2 I use the Bible to reprove, rebuke, exhort and pierce.

Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Math 4:7
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And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God Ef 6:17
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Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 2 Tim 4:2
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For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebr 4:12
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3 I pray for the Spirit to discern and the right way to walk.

And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. Jes 30:21
to another discerning of spirits 1 Cor 12:10
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That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ; Phil 1:10
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But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Heb 5:14​

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. Rev 3:18
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The discussion “but when people meet and do stuff and act weird and say its the Spirit how would the church be possible to lead all in good manners? How can a church than determine and rebuke?” is another part I did not mention.

 

[inge]

The difficulties with dreams is indeed the root of the dream. In this it is important if the person is a really Biblical Christian yes or no. Also it is important if no evil influence is involved (the devil appearing as angle of light.) or that it is of too much Pizza.

I have had dreams, and they are so different from other dreams I knew I had to write them down because God was telling me something. But I have no clue what some things do mean in my dreams. I think it is a learning process also to understand your own (Godly send) dream. Still after my research I found that Joseph and Daniel both interpret dreams of others. So it is possible in the Bible. Than it will be more like a prophecy maybe? God shows someone else the message I need to understand.

I do believe strongly that God is a God of order. And I keep my self clean from occult stuff and violent movies etc. So I know I am honest in my search. Just my experience

 

[chase9]

I'M BAAAAAACK....lol.....anyways, just wondering if we got any interpreters out there anywhere. i've had several reoccurring dreams that i've had, none recently but i just wanna get someone else's take on them. i kinda have an idea but anyway...one had to do with the usual flight kinda thing. i know some have said it's about wanting to escape eartly issues or whatever, but there's more detail to it. i'm usually trying to get away from something thats chasing me, usually some kind of animal or beast. sometimes i'll kinda make my way to a high point, i.e. tree or roof top but sometimes i'll actualy take flight but it seems the higher i try to go, i'm impeded by a grid of electrical wiring like power lines but they're like criss crossed and the higher i go, the closer they get together and i'm afraid to go any higher.
another i have is about seeing tornado's. now, i've never been in one or even seen one in person, but i'll have a dream where a tornado, or sometimes several tornado's come extremely close to me. i never get caught up in one but like i said, they'll get uncomfortably close. i'll usually be hiding behind a wall or in a building and i will watch them pass but never get injured or whatever by them....i know this topic isnt a "bible study" topic but this is usually where i post....

Being chased in a dream may reflect your attempt to avoid an unpleasant situation or problem in waking life. The tornadoes may reflect emotional volatile situations that you successfully avoided. Perhaps, you have been very mindful of avoiding a fight or argument. I recommend using the website dreambible.com for dream symbols. It can be pretty dead on sometimes.

 

[adsd]

mocking and rudeness. I have been on Christian chat only for about a month. and honestly I agree how can we ask questions and receive a deeper knowledge or understanding of our father, guidance from our brothers and sisters. everyone has a different opinion they cant all be right. and it is true we don't all know everything, so we ask right? . Jesus is not hateful, prideful, in fact was a servant before he was a king , I am sure he did not put some so high up they can speak down to his brother. by the way I wondered myself about dream interpreters , since joseph , Daniel etc. but glad I did not ask the question on a Christian chat site. can it be for someone new seeking God they just may turn and run from answers like some of these?