DRINKING AND THE SCRIPTURES

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Stephen63

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dcontroversal said:
I don't recall me saying anything to you in particular...but if you are going to keep replying with things that are not true and or trying to belittle me and my education I will gladly respond mi amigo........HAH! :cool:

Not to mention that all I did was reference your statement HAH

(My job is done statement)
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So, are/have you been a pastor?
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I'm waiting......
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Is it really that hard to say yes or no,dcontroversal?
 
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Is it really that hard to say yes or no,dcontroversal?
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Hi my name is David, I am a retired machinist by trade and used to machine parts for jets, missiles, b-1 bombers and even the space shuttle. I have been saved for about 30 years and have been studying the bible intensively for 28 years, I have preached and pastored for 24 years and consider myself a "Landmarker" as we are not to move the ancient landmarks that have been set, Nor do we have the right to add to or take away from God's plan and His Word. We are commanded to holiness and a holy walk in life. Do I fail? you bet, we all do. Is there more to learn? You bet as long as we are breathing. I LOVE THE WORD OF THE GOD and I LOVE ISRAEL and THE LORD"S PEOPLE. I believe salvation by grace through faith. I BELIEVE I AM SAVED BY THE PERFECT FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST and BAPTISM is the first act of obedience.

Maybe more later..May GOD cause His face to shine down upon you mi amigos.
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That's what I thought.
 
dcontroversal

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That's what I thought.
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1st There was no need to answer a question that was known and public to all..

2nd The OP and my responses are my stance and I will continue to stand with the OP and what I posted

3rd Your view of me means nothing and if all you have to do is attempt to discredit me and or accuse me then have a ball as your actions dictate that you are not being led by the Spirit..

4th I will stand before God and not you so refer to number three above..

5th Every thing I write is open for all to see and the people associated with me have no problem in my stance...

Mi AMigo............

I will also add that if you have something biblical to discuss I would be more than glad to engage you, but if you are going to act contrary to the truth then what ever.....
 
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I'm just trying to show in this thread that the accuracy of scripture is NOT enough.......... INTENT & MOTIVE can take an accurate scripture & make a dunghill of it.
 
dcontroversal

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I'm just trying to show in this thread that the accuracy of scripture is NOT enough.......... INTENT & MOTIVE can take an accurate scripture & make a dunghill of it.
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I would almost agree with that except for the fact that Paul said clearly that...

1. Some preach out of Love
2. Some preach out of pretense, contempt and an attempt to ridicule the truth

and at the end of the day it did not matter as the Word was preached and the Spirit of God accompanies the word and accomplishes what God wants it to accomplish.
 
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dcontroversal said:
1st There was no need to answer a question that was known and public to all..

2nd The OP and my responses are my stance and I will continue to stand with the OP and what I posted

3rd Your view of me means nothing and if all you have to do is attempt to discredit me and or accuse me then have a ball as your actions dictate that you are not being led by the Spirit..

4th I will stand before God and not you so refer to number three above..

5th Every thing I write is open for all to see and the people associated with me have no problem in my stance...

Mi AMigo............

I will also add that if you have something biblical to discuss I would be more than glad to engage you, but if you are going to act contrary to the truth then what ever.....
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I think he gave that up along time ago.

It is the norm.

1. They start with a few verses
2. They tell you you are wrong
3. They are confronted with what they say
4. They can;t answer. so they resort to attacking character. because they can not attack your truth.

Satan is behind it all
 
dcontroversal

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eternally-gratefull said:
I think he gave that up along time ago.

It is the norm.

1. They start with a few verses
2. They tell you you are wrong
3. They are confronted with what they say
4. They can;t answer. so they resort to attacking character. because they can not attack your truth.

Satan is behind it all
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Yeah...I wasn't playing the game nor will I....I will discuss the word, argue the word, preach the word with anybody who will use dia-logos, but when attacks on character and or a judgment against motive and I am done, as to continue to discuss and or cast the word out will do no good other than to feed the fire....However if it is heretical...I will call it like I see it just as everyone else would do and for the most part does!
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I think he gave that up along time ago.

It is the norm.

1. They start with a few verses
2. They tell you you are wrong
3. They are confronted with what they say
4. They can;t answer. so they resort to attacking character. because they can not attack your truth.

Satan is behind it all
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Yeah, I've heard that before............
Matthew 12:24 (KJV) [SUP]24 [/SUP]But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
 
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Yeah...I wasn't playing the game nor will I....I will discuss the word, argue the word, preach the word with anybody who will use dia-logos, but when attacks on character and or a judgment against motive and I am done, as to continue to discuss and or cast the word out will do no good other than to feed the fire....However if it is heretical...I will call it like I see it just as everyone else would do and for the most part does!
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welcome to Christian chat.

Thats the way we have to be..lol Your learning what the rest of us has had to learn the hard way..lol
 
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Yeah...I wasn't playing the game nor will I....I will discuss the word, argue the word, preach the word with anybody who will use dia-logos, but when attacks on character and or a judgment against motive and I am done, as to continue to discuss and or cast the word out will do no good other than to feed the fire....However if it is heretical...I will call it like I see it just as everyone else would do and for the most part does!
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Calling other people names & using humiliating tactics when someone disagrees with you doesn't automatically make them heretics just because you say so, dcon.
 
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Calling other people names & using humiliating tactics when someone disagrees with you doesn't automatically make them heretics just because you say so, dcon.
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I agree....not my wording and since when do we in English refer to someone as (IT)?

Originally Posted by dcontroversal
Yeah...I wasn't playing the game nor will I....I will discuss the word, argue the word, preach the word with anybody who will use dia-logos, but when attacks on character and or a judgment against motive and I am done, as to continue to discuss and or cast the word out will do no good other than to feed the fire....However if it is heretical...I will call it like I see it just as everyone else would do and for the most part does!

And.....Heretic means OPINIONATED in GREEK.....If someone one posts something that is contrary to the word and is mere OPINION then by default it is HERETICAL and the person quoting OPINION is a HERETIC....

Yes I know...we all have opinions!!!!!!!!
 
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Do you want me to repost from the beginning of the thread? they're sitting on the server.
 
dcontroversal

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Do you want me to repost from the beginning of the thread? they're sitting on the server.
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Stephen...if you feel that you need to post every word that has been posted then do what you think is necessary....Or you can move on to a more spiritually prosperous path and post something biblical instead of your vendetta which is not of God!
 
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If your gonna pour that glass of wine, What stops you from firing up the joint, Then why not snort a line of meth, Hey shoot some heroin. Where does it stop. The pot head say's well the Pope drinks wine whats the difference? The meth head say's well the pot head is under the pope and he says we can drink wine and so whats the difference. Might as well have an orgy while were at it.
 
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No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new:
for he saith, The old is better.
(Luke 5:39)

this isn't true of grape juice.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I think he gave that up along time ago.

It is the norm.

1. They start with a few verses
2. They tell you you are wrong
3. They are confronted with what they say
4. They can;t answer. so they resort to attacking character. because they can not attack your truth.

Satan is behind it all
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or they put you on their "ignore" list when they don't have any answer for your criticism.
 
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So fire up that joint, if I can a little drink I can have a little smoke. And don't you be bogharting.
 
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Dang if yall gonna have some wine then pass that joint
 
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so lets snort some meth and party all night. a little leaven leavens the whole lump. Drink it up.
 
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