During Tribulation, is it still Faith only for salvation?
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A person will be giventhe timenecessary to accept or deny Christ, be it now or in the future. You can rest assured anyone receiving the mark of the beast is knowingly rejecting Messiah.
There is a number of souls to be saved, Revelation, and when that number is close to being acheived the majority in carnate will be demonic. Look around, and see what is happening globally. People are ready right now to follow demons and call them godly..
All blessing and goodness for all who are inMessiah and all who will be, amen
There is a number of souls to be saved, Revelation, and when that number is close to being acheived the majority in carnate will be demonic. Look around, and see what is happening globally. People are ready right now to follow demons and call them godly..
All blessing and goodness for all who are inMessiah and all who will be, amen
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2Tim 3v12: "Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution."
Heb 10v38: "Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him." (justification (and hence salvation), has always been by grace through faith, Eph 2v8, even in the OT. Rom 4v3, Hab 2v4, and also during the Great Tribulation. Rev 7v9,10,14, Acts 2v21)
Heb 11v36-40: "Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented — of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us."
Note: That Paul places those saints who have suffered persecution for the Lord's sake amongst "the greats" of Heb 11.
Heb 10v38: "Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him." (justification (and hence salvation), has always been by grace through faith, Eph 2v8, even in the OT. Rom 4v3, Hab 2v4, and also during the Great Tribulation. Rev 7v9,10,14, Acts 2v21)
Heb 11v36-40: "Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented — of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us."
Note: That Paul places those saints who have suffered persecution for the Lord's sake amongst "the greats" of Heb 11.
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Yep,,,you were saved on the Cross,by the blood of Jesus and no other place or time in the worlds history(not during your life because you did something to get saved). You see it as something you did from the day you were born till now instead of the Cross(your works verses his work)... So your confused about the things regarding your works of salvation,,if I do this,if I do that,if I dont do this ect.....Those are the days when you denied you were saved by the Cross and you thought to save your own self by your own works in place of his.
Not according to Jesus
John 3:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
To be save must born again
Born again mean not life according flesh
Romans 8:5-39 King James Version (KJV)
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Carnaly minded is death
I believe death in this verse mean not save.
Jesus say, to be save must born in spirit, or life after spirit or godly life
Mean not godly life is death or not save
John 3:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
To be save must born again
Born again mean not life according flesh
Romans 8:5-39 King James Version (KJV)
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Carnaly minded is death
I believe death in this verse mean not save.
Jesus say, to be save must born in spirit, or life after spirit or godly life
Mean not godly life is death or not save
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In life one does not sit down in a Whataburger and take a bite out of a burger and say "I wish I had a hamburger"...In life a man who gets married no longer seeks "to get married"... well but some might beg to differ,lol ....Those who realize they were saved at the Cross by the blood of Jesus Christ no longer see to "get saved" but instead confess it. Well but some say Jesus saved them on the Cross by shedding his blood and then think they need to "get saved"(denies the blood in their works of salvation)....look at the OP real close...
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Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
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14:28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have [sufficient] to finish [it]?
14:29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish [it], all that behold [it] begin to mock him,
14:30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
14:31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
14:32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
We see that the concept of "counting the cost" isn't just a Trib thing, but is a here-and-now thing as well.
Luke
14:28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have [sufficient] to finish [it]?
14:29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish [it], all that behold [it] begin to mock him,
14:30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
14:31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
14:32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
We see that the concept of "counting the cost" isn't just a Trib thing, but is a here-and-now thing as well.
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Disciples of Christ by definition are already saved by grace. They are saints.
But if you mean saved from being beheaded, then the answer is "NO". All those who reject the domination and demands of the Antichrist, and refuse to bow to him and take his mark will be executed. And they will not flinch from being martyred. That will be the price to be a faithful disciple and witness. There were Christian martyrs ever since Stephen, and there are Christians being killed (or attacked) every day for their faith.
But if you mean saved from being beheaded, then the answer is "NO". All those who reject the domination and demands of the Antichrist, and refuse to bow to him and take his mark will be executed. And they will not flinch from being martyred. That will be the price to be a faithful disciple and witness. There were Christian martyrs ever since Stephen, and there are Christians being killed (or attacked) every day for their faith.
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Why the focus on rejecting the mark of the beast being a work?
If I love someone tomorrow who I don't like it's a work.
A work of love that the Holy Spirit leads me to.
If I didn't then God will tell me I got it wrong.
Then I repent.
I don't know much about end times, mark of the beast and all that.
For me I am satisfied with what Jesus said.
"I will lose none that the father has given me"
He has promised to keep us and deliver us,
Revelation 3:10
10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
3:10 Christ’s promise to keep the believers from the hour of trial is most likely a promise that He will remove them before the period of unparalleled tribulation. However, some take this promise to mean that believers will not be removed but rather protected, during the trial. The hour of trial is another way of referring to the unparalleled judgment of “the great tribulation”
Jesus has kept the promise given by the Father.
It's not a work we do but the work that God does in us at such times.
He will keep us, strengthen us.
If I love someone tomorrow who I don't like it's a work.
A work of love that the Holy Spirit leads me to.
If I didn't then God will tell me I got it wrong.
Then I repent.
I don't know much about end times, mark of the beast and all that.
For me I am satisfied with what Jesus said.
"I will lose none that the father has given me"
He has promised to keep us and deliver us,
Revelation 3:10
10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
3:10 Christ’s promise to keep the believers from the hour of trial is most likely a promise that He will remove them before the period of unparalleled tribulation. However, some take this promise to mean that believers will not be removed but rather protected, during the trial. The hour of trial is another way of referring to the unparalleled judgment of “the great tribulation”
Jesus has kept the promise given by the Father.
It's not a work we do but the work that God does in us at such times.
He will keep us, strengthen us.