Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

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OIC1965 said:
Already did.

They entered into relationship with God when they believed.

For example, I knew my wife one way and then I knew her in a different way after I married her, didn’t I?
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Again, you are saying that God did not know a man in this manner before they believed. yes?
 
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Again, you are saying that God did not know a man in this manner before they believed. yes?
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How many times do you have to be told? I mean really man!
 
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OIC1965 said:
See this? God had no inkling of who would believe until they believe. He just owned it. Wow!!!!!!
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Please explain Galatians 4:9. You ignore the clear passage. I'll wait.
 
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John146 said:
Again, you are saying that God did not know a man in this manner before they believed. yes?
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Yes. But again knowledge and foreknowledge are not the same.

I knew I was going to marry my wife before I married her, but we were not married till the pronouncement.
 
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John146 said:
Did God know you as a son before the foundation of the world? Yes or No?
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God foreknew me and predestinated me unto adoption. You are confusing two terms. Foreknowledge and Adoption.
 
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Yes. But again knowledge and foreknowledge are not the same.

I knew I was going to marry my wife before I married her, but we were not married till the pronouncement.
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God foreknew you would make a choice to believe the gospel and become a son before the foundation of the world, but didn't have knowledge of you as a son until you believed. Is this what you believe? Is this your explanation of Galatians 4:9?
 
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John146 said:
God foreknew you would make a choice to believe the gospel and become a son before the foundation of the world, but didn't have knowledge of you as a son until you believed. Is this what you believe? Is this your explanation of Galatians 4:9?
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Define knowledge in this context.
 
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Did God know you as a son before the foundation of the world? Yes or No?
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No

he knew me as one who would be conformed to his image

take your blinders off, you can’t hear a word anyone is saying to you
 
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OIC1965 said:
Not determinism and not open theism

Elect according to the foreknowledge of God

We have closed the loop.
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There's not one Scripture that states that God knew you before the foundation of the world. Not one.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
No

he knew me as one who would be conformed to his image

take your blinders off, you can’t hear a word anyone is saying to you
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So, God didn't have knowledge of you as a son before the foundation of the world.

How does one become a son? By believing on the name of Jesus.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

What this means is, you do not believe that God knew you would make the decision to believe in Jesus and become a son.
 
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John146 said:
There's not one Scripture that states that God knew you before the foundation of the world. Not one.
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Did God know Cyrus before he was born? When did God predestinate what Cyrus would do for the Jews?

How about Jeremiah? Did God foreknow and predestinate Jeremiah before he was born?
 
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