Election and predestination.
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That makes no sense to me. Jesus was the Lamb of God slain before the foundation of the world. It is no problem to God to see the future. He knows who will and who will not accept Christ. I would not set foot in a church. I was in the Navy, as far from a godly place as you can get. I was close to death from alcoholic poisoning twice in two weeks. My boss was a Christian. One night he witnessed to me. Talk about a light in a dark place. He left the navy soon after he led me to Jesus. God arranged all this before the foundation of the world. Coincidence? No. God doing miracles.
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I could never get my head around this too until recently. Now I see this verse
2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but
is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance" in a new light. As one who promoted and defended the idea of double predestination, I struggled with this verse but now I fully embrace it and equally gain huge encouragement when I read it. I saw it in the light of the timeframe of bible prophecy if I could put it like that, namely the end of John's vision Rev. 22:5 but now far beyond that.
2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but
is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance" in a new light. As one who promoted and defended the idea of double predestination, I struggled with this verse but now I fully embrace it and equally gain huge encouragement when I read it. I saw it in the light of the timeframe of bible prophecy if I could put it like that, namely the end of John's vision Rev. 22:5 but now far beyond that.
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It had always been like this, to believe one (election of some not others) was to disbelieve the other (God wants all to be saved). To have (choose) one as a friend you automatically make the other your enemy. But now God has shown me something brilliant that has made both my friends, yes very dear friends of mine. Like the 2 have become one as in marriage. It's like a caterpillar and the butterfly, both are the one thing but at different stages. All I could see was the caterpillar stage but now I see the next stage where none perish but ALL coming to repentance. Awesome news!!! Oh yeah, that's the gospel.
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I'll just post the verses and allow scripture to define.
Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Predestinated unto the adoption. What is the adoption?
Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
The adoption is the redemption of the body. That's not salvation. That's what we who are saved are waiting for. The adoption is a future event. We groan within ourselves because we are trapped in these vile bodies. We're saved, but we don't appear to be saved because of our bodies. Our bodies need redeemed.
Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Predestinated unto the adoption. What is the adoption?
Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
The adoption is the redemption of the body. That's not salvation. That's what we who are saved are waiting for. The adoption is a future event. We groan within ourselves because we are trapped in these vile bodies. We're saved, but we don't appear to be saved because of our bodies. Our bodies need redeemed.