Eternal Life only Temporary??

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eternally-gratefull

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slave said:
Which one of these verses are the facts?..."And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is IN His son. He who HAS the Son has life; he who does not HAVE the Son of God does not have life." [1 John 5:11-12].

--OR--

"And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is knowing His son. He who knows the Son has life; he who does not know the Son of God does not have life." [????? ].

"Knowing" is powerless to this wretched sinner in the context you presented! My only hope is found in the the killing power of the cross that killed this wretched man, and the sin debt associated with it.. And the promise of sins power over me being released for eternity comes from Christ's resurrection. My guarantee of eternal life is valid if, and only if I remain IN Christ. Why? Because God came to bring glory to Himself.....to make us Holy! If we remain in our human depravity we cannot do that. But if we come unto Him thru Christ Jesus our Lord the things He asks us to do are worthy of asking; yea demanding, because He has given us the ability and resources to accomplish His laws in us thru Christ Jesus. If God sees you knowing Jesus you are standing next to Him. But God will not have sin in His presence, thus He sees all saints as Jesus only [ the sinless one]. Our emergence INTO Christ is the difference from the real eternal security and the perverted one. To be in Christ we must remain in Him. This is our choice and action. This is our will established for the love relationship God wanted to have with us. I am not God's "pity-party!" I am a Holy and powerful saint, a saint because I am found IN Jesus Christ not beside Him.
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1. You do not know DC very well. because you just totally destroyed what he was trying to say
2. You do not know us very well. For we do not teach one can be saved, and live a life of sin (nor does scripture teach this)

so you just made a whole post which made false accusations, or was based on false accusations, which was meaningless.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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eternally-gratefull said:
and what are my words? (spoken by jesus)

He who believes in me HAS (perfect tense) Eternal life. he who does not believe in me shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides in him.

So when is jason going to have complete and utter faith in Christ, and stop having more faith in himself?
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Never as long as he keeps trusting in his salvation lite gospel<---false gospel that is!
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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#43
slave said:
Which one of these verses are the facts?..."And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is IN His son. He who HAS the Son has life; he who does not HAVE the Son of God does not have life." [1 John 5:11-12].

--OR--

"And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is knowing His son. He who knows the Son has life; he who does not know the Son of God does not have life." [????? ].

"Knowing" is powerless to this wretched sinner in the context you presented! My only hope is found in the the killing power of the cross that killed this wretched man, and the sin debt associated with it.. And the promise of sins power over me being released for eternity comes from Christ's resurrection. My guarantee of eternal life is valid if, and only if I remain IN Christ. Why? Because God came to bring glory to Himself.....to make us Holy! If we remain in our human depravity we cannot do that. But if we come unto Him thru Christ Jesus our Lord the things He asks us to do are worthy of asking; yea demanding, because He has given us the ability and resources to accomplish His laws in us thru Christ Jesus. If God sees you knowing Jesus you are standing next to Him. But God will not have sin in His presence, thus He sees all saints as Jesus only [ the sinless one]. Our emergence INTO Christ is the difference from the real eternal security and the perverted one. To be in Christ we must remain in Him. This is our choice and action. This is our will established for the love relationship God wanted to have with us. I am not God's "pity-party!" I am a Holy and powerful saint, a saint because I am found IN Jesus Christ not beside Him.
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Are you blind to thee following truths....

1. Sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise which is the prepayment of the eternal inheritance found in Christ.
2. In the Father's hand
3. In the Son's hand
4. Justified from sin (declared legally innocent)
5. Sanctified in Christ eternally (positionally)
6. Currently possessing eternal LIFE for EVER (pay attention to the aorist tense verb of John 3:16)
7. My life is HID within Christ
8. When the BLOOD has been applied the FATHER passes over

And on and on and on.....

Wake up to the true gospel....Believe-->acknowedge=eternal LIFE not temporary!!!!!!!
 
slave

slave

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dcontroversal said:
Are you blind to thee following truths....

1. Sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise which is the prepayment of the eternal inheritance found in Christ.
2. In the Father's hand
3. In the Son's hand
4. Justified from sin (declared legally innocent)
5. Sanctified in Christ eternally (positionally)
6. Currently possessing eternal LIFE for EVER (pay attention to the aorist tense verb of John 3:16)
7. My life is HID within Christ
8. When the BLOOD has been applied the FATHER passes over

And on and on and on.....

Wake up to the true gospel....Believe-->acknowedge=eternal LIFE not temporary!!!!!!!
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I have never said that eternal life is temporary. 1 John 5: 11:12... I have quoted so many times I am exhausted from doing so. This guarantees my eternal life, the only thing is why it guarantees my eternal life. It secures it because of Christ found IN me.

If this is your position we agree, if this is not your position we do not.
 
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