Faith/Works...How much faith? How much works?
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The Spirit that cannot sin is the Holy Spirit. Our spirits can sin as well as our bodies and souls. That is why Paul wrote...
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Thessalonians 5:23 )
If it was impossible for our human spirit to sin, it would not need to be PRESERVED BLAMELESS by Christ until the coming of Christ.
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Thessalonians 5:23 )
If it was impossible for our human spirit to sin, it would not need to be PRESERVED BLAMELESS by Christ until the coming of Christ.
The fact remains that a verse that I quoted earlier, the one in 1 Thess. teaches that our SPIRITS must be preserved blameless. (1 Thess. 5: 23) This is accomplished by the continuing mediation and work of Christ, and of the Holy Spirit. If our spirit was inc(orruptible, it would not need to be preserved, would it? (see 1 Thessalonians 5:23)
The seed (Jesus) is incorruptible. Nothing about ourselves is incorruptible, if it were, it would not need to be preserved.
Jesus is our life preserver and His Life is our preservative.
The seed (Jesus) is incorruptible. Nothing about ourselves is incorruptible, if it were, it would not need to be preserved.
Jesus is our life preserver and His Life is our preservative.
Correction of the post above...the Living and Abiding Word of God is the Word of the Lord proclaimed unto them (vs 25b) (see also Isaiah 40:6-8) This is the incorruptible seed. It does not mean that the redeemed spirit is incorruptible in the sense that it cannot sin. It only means that the seed which begat it is incorruptible. IF our human spirits were incorruptible in reference to sin, our spirits would not need to be preserved blameless (1 Thess. 5:23)
I have a problem thinking this idea through.
I sin, I steal something from someone.
Now is this just my body that sinned. My heart, my soul, my spirit are not involved? Or are they not
all part of everything I do, indivisible. I am my heart, my soul and my spirit. Without any one of these
things I am dead. At best one can say addictive desires, responses, lusts took over and now the dominate,
but all parts are still involved. When I think, do not all parts know and participate and effect the final
outcome?
And which part of us is thrown into the fire? Just our bodies or is it everything?
Now if everything is punished, then everything is responsible for sin and cannot disown part of the
person.
Addicts objectify their behaviour into it is not them, but this other monster which has taken them over.
But what this highlights is we as individuals are passengers on a biological process, which we can take
ownership of and take action, or just let processes work and claim innocence, when this is just declaring
defeat. Because we do not understand a process does not mean we are not involved.
Jesus came as light in the darkness, to empower people to see what is happening and resolve the sin and
chaos, and begin to steer things is a way that is good and honouring to God and ourselves.
I sin, I steal something from someone.
Now is this just my body that sinned. My heart, my soul, my spirit are not involved? Or are they not
all part of everything I do, indivisible. I am my heart, my soul and my spirit. Without any one of these
things I am dead. At best one can say addictive desires, responses, lusts took over and now the dominate,
but all parts are still involved. When I think, do not all parts know and participate and effect the final
outcome?
And which part of us is thrown into the fire? Just our bodies or is it everything?
Now if everything is punished, then everything is responsible for sin and cannot disown part of the
person.
Addicts objectify their behaviour into it is not them, but this other monster which has taken them over.
But what this highlights is we as individuals are passengers on a biological process, which we can take
ownership of and take action, or just let processes work and claim innocence, when this is just declaring
defeat. Because we do not understand a process does not mean we are not involved.
Jesus came as light in the darkness, to empower people to see what is happening and resolve the sin and
chaos, and begin to steer things is a way that is good and honouring to God and ourselves.
You have to know God, as God is Love (1 John 4:8 & 16).
If you do not know God, then love does not know you (Matthew 7:22-23), and no amount of good works will do you any good.
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
If you do not know God, then love does not know you (Matthew 7:22-23), and no amount of good works will do you any good.
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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I used the word mirror
If a reBorn christian looks at the spiritual mirror talking about the WORD of GOD they won’t see ugliness they will see the WORD of GOD and believe assured that HIS promises are yes and amen.
When the person looks In the physical mirror they will see the outward man with Its fleshly flaws and desires.
Put your trust In the spiritual mirror.
If a reBorn christian looks at the spiritual mirror talking about the WORD of GOD they won’t see ugliness they will see the WORD of GOD and believe assured that HIS promises are yes and amen.
When the person looks In the physical mirror they will see the outward man with Its fleshly flaws and desires.
Put your trust In the spiritual mirror.
My point is that we can't truly know God, and therefore truly love, unless we have truly been born from above...
Thinking one is born again, when they are not, is a different topic.
BTW, that passage in Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
..has nothing to do with the Born again Christian, who have received the gift of the new birth. Those in Mt 7 were trying to justify their acceptance before God by their performance. (see bold letters)
Thinking one is born again, when they are not, is a different topic.
BTW, that passage in Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
..has nothing to do with the Born again Christian, who have received the gift of the new birth. Those in Mt 7 were trying to justify their acceptance before God by their performance. (see bold letters)
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