FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS FACT OR FICTION

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FLYING FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS FACT OR FICTION

  • FACT

    Votes: 13 56.5%
  • FICTION

    Votes: 10 43.5%

  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
Oct 14, 2013
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#61
Fiery flying serpent

What does this mean ?

6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.
 
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nathan3

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#62
[h=3]Job 41[/h]King James Version (KJV)

41 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?

He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.
Consider this

Psalm 19

King James Version (KJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.


And when you look more, you see these images , are pictured in the stars of the Zodiac, that is the tabernacle the sun travels through if im not mistaken. And you can actually read of the Bridegroom Christ, in God's stars.

The Leviathan, may be another symbol for Satan, but I dont know for sure, so im not going to comment on it any father.
 
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#63
If you look closer, God is actually describing Satan and how powerful he is against man. It goes on to say that he mocks they weapons of men. What animal does that and if you go back to Genesis 9. God placed the fear and dread of us into all animals.
was leviathan an actual creature or not ?
 
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nathan3

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#64
Fiery flying serpent

What does this mean ?

6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.
I think God is passing Judgment in that scripture that you quoted. and its symbolic of Satan's lies and mans lies. that they are listening to. Like fiery lies. The people are putting their trust in everything and everyone ; but God.
 
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Kerry

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#65
was leviathan an actual creature or not ?

yes Satan, God created him,but not as satan, but Lucifer the son of the morning. He became satan because of pride. Leviathan is the father of the children of pride. Is he not?
 
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Tintin

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#66
The Leviathan was most likely a carnivorous swimming creature, probably the crocodile-like Kronosaurus. A T-Rex though, no!
 
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#67
Read Revelation 12:9, Isdaniel
. Your given a example how the dragon, serpent, devil. etc, are just symolic names for Satan himself. That shows its not talking about any of those things but is a individual person; Satan.
 
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#68
yes Satan, God created him,but not as satan, but Lucifer the son of the morning. He became satan because of pride. Leviathan is the father of the children of pride. Is he not?
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Is satan the father of the children of pride
 
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#69
Read Revelation 12:9, Isdaniel
. Your given a example how the dragon, serpent, devil. etc, are just symolic names for Satan himself. That shows its not talking about any of those things but is a individual person; Satan.
At times God uses literal thing to bring out a spiritual side of things and leviathan was an actual creature
 
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nathan3

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#70
At times God uses literal thing to bring out a spiritual side of things and leviathan was an actual creature
Well, its not expressly important. What is important is the teaching.
 
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Kerry

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#71
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Is satan the father of the children of pride
What did Jesus say to many "you are of your father Satan" especially the Pharisee's. Satan is the father of sin and his was pride and most not all but most sin is derived from pride. The others being sins of pleasure.
 
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Tintin

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#72
Read Revelation 12:9, Isdaniel
. Your given a example how the dragon, serpent, devil. etc, are just symolic names for Satan himself. That shows its not talking about any of those things but is a individual person; Satan.
Well, yes. But not all such instances, related to dinosaur-type creatures etc. are JUST symbolic. The dragon is symbolic but there really was a serpent in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 1 and 2 are myths but Hebrew historical narratives. You're no dummy, you know this stuff.
 
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reject-tech

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#73
Fine with me if they are fiction, used by bible writers as illustration.
Likewise, I don't believe there were really literal creatures with one kind of head, one kind of body, another kind of feet, and so on.

If I get surprised differently some day, I guess it will just be that much greater of a surprise.

To me, since a creature can't breath fire, it must be a reference to the real and experienced emotional effect of that creature's words on the hearer.

I believe when you say something that isn't inappropriate or vindictive, yet still makes a person feel ashamed of their actions, that's breathing fire.
I would think something like my grandma sadly telling me when I was little - "you oughta be ashamed o'yerself" for making my aunt cry, she was breathing fire. But if she had yelled at me angrily, which might have been less corrective, I believe she would have been in error.
 
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Tintin

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#74
Well, yes. But not all such instances, related to dinosaur-type creatures etc. are JUST symbolic. The dragon is symbolic but there really was a serpent in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 1 and 2 are myths but Hebrew historical narratives. You're no dummy, you know this stuff.
*Genesis 1 and 2 AREN'T myths. Sorry.
 
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#75
Taking the opposing view.
We know the peoples, lands, and ethnicities are described as the sea in Rev. 17:15.
So perhaps this 'leviathan' is a representation of the fallen angel Lucifer.
..................................(pause)..........................................
.................(thinking)....................(pause)..........................

I don't think so.
For instance, in the very same book, Lucifer is described as an angel presenting himself to God.
- So now this angel becomes an aquatic serpent all of the sudden? - (In writing it's called a lack of continuity)
No, there were infact large reptiles before the flood, infact there were men of 'renown' before the flood,....
infact, many believe that is why God caused the flood, to wipe out the mutant species of 'ubermensch'.
- No way???? How about the mythological figures of Greece?
- Total figments, storybook fiction made up by a writer?
- Tell me, how often has a writer's prose been handed down from generation to generation by word of mouth?

No.........no, .....no,...... no ,.....no, .....no ,.....no ,......nope.......the the grecian mythological characters are the same as listed in Genesis 6:4 :
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children unto them; the same became mighty men, which were of old, men of renown."

- Bish, boom, bam! All of the sudden we have a reason for a flood!


 
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Tintin

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#76
Taking the opposing view.
We know the peoples, lands, and ethnicities are described as the sea in Rev. 17:15.
So perhaps this 'leviathan' is a representation of the fallen angel Lucifer.
..................................(pause)..........................................
.................(thinking)....................(pause)..........................

I don't think so.
For instance, in the very same book, Lucifer is described as an angel presenting himself to God.
- So now this angel becomes an aquatic serpent all of the sudden? - (In writing it's called a lack of continuity)
No, there were infact large reptiles before the flood, infact there were men of 'renown' before the flood,....
infact, many believe that is why God caused the flood, to wipe out the mutant species of 'ubermensch'.
- No way???? How about the mythological figures of Greece?
- Total figments, storybook fiction made up by a writer?
- Tell me, how often has a writer's prose been handed down from generation to generation by word of mouth?

No.........no, .....no,...... no ,.....no, .....no ,.....no ,......nope.......the the grecian mythological characters are the same as listed in Genesis 6:4 :
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children unto them; the same became mighty men, which were of old, men of renown."

- Bish, boom, bam! All of the sudden we have a reason for a flood!


It wasn't the only reason for the Flood, but yes, you're on the money.
 
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Kerry

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#77
I especially like the Bish boom bam but man you left out booyah and bouda bing. Now post your chicken dance. LOL
 
Oct 14, 2013
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#78
Fine with me if they are fiction, used by bible writers as illustration.
Likewise, I don't believe there were really literal creatures with one kind of head, one kind of body, another kind of feet, and so on.

If I get surprised differently some day, I guess it will just be that much greater of a surprise.

To me, since a creature can't breath fire, it must be a reference to the real and experienced emotional effect of that creature's words on the hearer.

I believe when you say something that isn't inappropriate or vindictive, yet still makes a person feel ashamed of their actions, that's breathing fire.
I would think something like my grandma sadly telling me when I was little - "you oughta be ashamed o'yerself" for making my aunt cry, she was breathing fire. But if she had yelled at me angrily, which might have been less corrective, I believe she would have been in error.

Does an eel shock and it is in the water ?