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lydever91

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Frankly I don't care how long you've been here, but when you make a claim that does not line up with what your profile says, I question it.

Regarding your criticism of my avatar picture, is that all you've got? You can't respond rationally so you make an ad hominem attack? That is pathetic.

I leave you to your delusions....
Oh so the investigation is over? Lol Your avatar is a glimpse of your worldly heart, Thats all, Praise Jesus
 

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[video]https://youtu.be/ZLltcm0wbGU[/video]
Good grief, now I've heard it all...

Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace!
(Nah 1:15a)

YouTube, Christians new source for faith, lol.
 

lydever91

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Good grief, now I've heard it all...

Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace!
(Nah 1:15a)

YouTube, Christians new source for truth, lol.
I thought I'd heard it all too, couldn't believe after all that, a few months later it was found out that the last mention of the Sea of Galilee was Chapter 13:27! I would think to say because it's on youtube, it's an unreliable source for truth. I don't think that kind of thinking is correct or wise, Praise Jesus:rolleyes:
 

Angela53510

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I thought I'd heard it all too, couldn't believe after all that, a few months later it was found out that the last mention of the Sea of Galilee was Chapter 13:27! I would think to say because it's on youtube, it's an unreliable source for truth. I don't think that kind of thinking is correct or wise, Praise Jesus:rolleyes:
Pretty much every preacher on YouTube is a false teacher/prophet. Of course, there are real preachers, that someone video taped at a meeting, and posted the video. Like RC Sproule! You might benefit by watch those videos, if you are unable to read the actual Bible. But don’t watch any of these losers who specifically use YouTube to get an audience, because no one will listen to them anywhere else.

You have posted something that is so far beyond the pale it is sure to be nominated for worst farce of the year award. How do I know? Because I stick to the Bible. Then, there are your dates, you total lack of presence in the BDF over the last 7 or 11 years. Finally, it can be seen you are easily swayed by false prophets. We won’t even get into the fact that you posted a video without even a review. I don’t have time to waste on a video the OP didn’t bother to at least post a summary of what it says. Of course, if you hung around the BDF, you would know that is an unwritten rule.

Anyway, that’s about it for me. Please get your Bible and read through it, from cover to cover, every day of the week, every week of the year, till you die. Then, you might be able to see through the deception of these evil doers.
 

lydever91

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Pretty much every preacher on YouTube is a false teacher/prophet. Of course, there are real preachers, that someone video taped at a meeting, and posted the video. Like RC Sproule! You might benefit by watch those videos, if you are unable to read the actual Bible. But don’t watch any of these losers who specifically use YouTube to get an audience, because no one will listen to them anywhere else.

You have posted something that is so far beyond the pale it is sure to be nominated for worst farce of the year award. How do I know? Because I stick to the Bible. Then, there are your dates, you total lack of presence in the BDF over the last 7 or 11 years. Finally, it can be seen you are easily swayed by false prophets. We won’t even get into the fact that you posted a video without even a review. I don’t have time to waste on a video the OP didn’t bother to at least post a summary of what it says. Of course, if you hung around the BDF, you would know that is an unwritten rule.

Anyway, that’s about it for me. Please get your Bible and read through it, from cover to cover, every day of the week, every week of the year, till you die. Then, you might be able to see through the deception of these evil doers.
Oh if we were only as holy as you. Glad God, not you decides who speaks truth and you are held as a false accuser for trying to make me look like a liar about how long I have been on CC with your half-wit investigation, lol, this is fact, so beware
 

Lighthearted

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Theres a lot to tolerate on social media these days, in this world, and even on this Christian chat site....but I know for a fact...threats young lady directed at fellow brothers and sisters...IS NOT tolerated and you will be reported
 

DJ2

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If you knew how the scripture was written and how the verse numbers were chosen according to very carefully drawn lines of the parchment and papyrus , you wouldn't of replied, sorry. Even the Jews have their chapter and verse numbers exactly the same for Job and the book of Joshua. Praise Jesus
Could you cite any source for this?
 

garee

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Pure ignorance, the Bible is full of physical witnesses, your post make little if any sense and are taking the verse out of context. The great news is that this bears witness of the Son of Man, Praise Jesus

It bears witness to a indentation in the ground and that you like to use use your fleshly imagination..But a source of Christian faith Hmmmm .Watch out for the pot holes.

It reminds me of some who connect the millions of stars and create a gospel of sign and wonders just look up.

We do not know Christ after the philosophies of men , after the rudiments of this world as the things seen . Try mixing the faith of Christ that comes from hearing God if you are looking for a true witness .You could say He is out of this corrupted world.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, (The things seen with the eye) and not after Christ.
 

oldethennew

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a very interesting thread, but not enough information for one to draw a 'solid-conclusion'...

TY for the info...
 

lydever91

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Could you cite any source for this?
[h=1]Chapters[/h] Early manuscripts indicate that the books of the Bible had some form of divisions. Evidence suggests the possibility that Hebrew manuscripts divided the Pentateuch into 54 sections called parashiyot during the Babylonian Captivity (before 536 BC). Each parashah was read on the Sabbath day; thus, the Pentateuch was read completely in a year. These parashiyot were later divided into 669 sidrim. Other books of the Hebrew Bible had similar divisions such as the Prophets, which were divided into passages called haphtaroth.
Another form of division also existed when there was a change in subject and was denoted by the open section, which was either a blank or open remainder of an unfilled line of text or a blank line before a new full line. Minor changes in thought were indicated by the close section, which was only a short interval of space.

In later manuscripts, the open section was indicated by Pe (the Hebrew "p") and the close section by the Samech (the Hebrew "s").
However, despite these two forms of divisions, parashiyot and open section, the earliest Hebrew manuscripts did not have any division into numbered or alphabetical chapters.
Early Greek and Latin versions of the Bible had similar divisions in several books. Stephen Langton (1155/56 – 1228) in 1205, as a Paris theological professor, was the first to make chapter divisions to facilitate his work with Bible commentaries. He later became the Archbishop of Canterbury and was a prolific writer of commentaries and biblical essays, which introduced his chapters. In 1240, Cardinal Hugo of St. Cher published the first Latin Bible with the chapter divisions that exist today. The Jews started using these chapter divisions in 1330 for their Hebrew Bible.

[h=1]Verses[/h] In the oldest Hebrew manuscripts (Masoretic), the Old Testament was divided into verses; however, the verses were not numbered. The verses were marked by the soph pasuq, which is a double point ( : ). In the Pentateuch of these ancient Masorectic texts, the number of verses of a parashah would be written at the end of the parashah. This notation helped the scribe make an accurate copy, specifically to guard against the addition of verses, and helped the teacher read and remember all the verses of the parashah.


How did the Bible get its chapters and verses?
 

Johnny_B

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Did you click the link? Links take you to another page, often off site. If you did not even check out the link, how can you call it wrong, or say anything about it at all?
If she were demonstrating hatred toward you, I wouldn't have made the comment I did. I found your comment ridiculous and groundless. Telling the truth "is bad for one's health" ... another ridiculous statement. "Now your (sic) gonna (sic) throw rocks for me helping her out?" I wasn't, and you weren't.

You're (not "your") digging yourself a hole here. Perhaps you intend some of your comments in good humour, but they are not funny.
Magenta and Dino unless I missed something I do not see either of you being rude.

Seriously, yes stop the rude and hateful comments. telling someone that made a minor error about the number of verses that contained "feet" in Job that "they can't even count to seven" seems to be a person with a mean and hateful sentiment, I dunno. And then you want to label it as truth telling Lol:p booooooo
Sister lydever Megenta and Dino are not being rude, they are revealing some faults in the video and error of the originator of the video, that is not being rude. It seems you are very invested in this person that made the video, maybe they are the leader of the movement you are part of or maybe you just think they are a great teacher or that some how the video is of some importance.

I myself do not see any value in the video, I do not view anything that has to have math involved to make it's point is how false doctrine gets started, not saying that this video is false doctrine. But when people start doing the multiplying thing it reminds me of Harald Camping and his book 1994 and how Jesus was coming back in September of that year, because he multiplied the pigs that the demons were cast into. Then divided them by another number, anyway at the end of it all he came up with 1994 and as wee all know Jesus did not come back in 1994 nor did He in 1995 which Camping chnged it to after further multiplying and dividing the numbers over again.

I am not saying that this guy is doing that. What I do see is that you feel that this person has some special gift to bring out hidden things out of the Lord's word. The problem I have is the person is not exigeting the Scriptures they are multiplying numbers of words found in the Scriptures. Which means that they and you thing the bible has some type of mystical meaning in it if you can find it and that is the furthest thing from the truth.

The Lord has not hidden any type of message in His word, His message is written in a way that all can see and understand. Making the Bible some mystical writing that has hidden messages in it, is a dangerous place to be.

Deuteronomy 12:32
“Everything that I command you, you shall be careful to do. You shall not add to it or take from it.”


Revelation 22:18-19 “For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

Mutipling, dividing, adding or subtracting anything from or to God's word is a dangerous thing to do because if you are adding or taking away from the Lord's message in His word, is a dangerous thing to do. So if you personally know the person that made the video you might want to pass along this message it would fulfill I Peter 3:8-12

“Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous;9 not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing, knowing that you were called to this, that you may inherit a blessing.10 For
“He who would love life and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips from speaking deceit.11 Let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it.12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and His ears are open to their prayers; but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”

If you love someone that is believing or teaching a false or false way of interpreting God's word, if you love them show them these warning and let the Spirit be the one that brings conviction if they are part of the household of faith. Since I do not know them all I can do is show you the warnings and my hope is that the Spirit would show you how He see this way of interpreting His word.
 

Johnny_B

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Stopped reading at that point:p Lol

I hope I am not mis-reading you, if I am please frgive me Sister.

Well Sis that only revealed your heart further, no believer is totally correct. I have leanred form believers here that do not agree with what I believe, it is always good to have firends that do not believe the same as we do, if we always have other believers that tptally believe like we do we will never get views from another angel. It's like having nothing but yes men around you all the time, there is no one to bring correction.

I seen a friend of mine destroy a fellowship because of that, if someone was on the elder board and they did not agree with him 100% he would fire them, he never looked to see if they had a reasonable viewpoint. He forgot Mark 1:42-45 “And Jesus called them to him and said to them, “You know that those who are considered rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them.43 But it shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant,44 and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all.45 For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

I am not going to go back and read their posts to see if they ised the Word of God, but I will post this Scripture for you to concider II Timoth 3:16

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”

The beautiful thing about the Word of God is it does not matter who brings it to our attention, because the souce is inffalibe so we have to concider it because it as Timothy said by the influance of the Holy Spirit. We will never know it all, we will be learning mo0re in the eternal state as well. The Lord is so much more them we can ever know, it will be a beautiful thing learnng more about Him in eternity.
 

lydever91

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I hope I am not mis-reading you, if I am please frgive me Sister.

Well Sis that only revealed your heart further, no believer is totally correct. I have leanred form believers here that do not agree with what I believe, it is always good to have firends that do not believe the same as we do, if we always have other believers that tptally believe like we do we will never get views from another angel. It's like having nothing but yes men around you all the time, there is no one to bring correction.

I seen a friend of mine destroy a fellowship because of that, if someone was on the elder board and they did not agree with him 100% he would fire them, he never looked to see if they had a reasonable viewpoint. He forgot Mark 1:42-45 “And Jesus called them to him and said to them, “You know that those who are considered rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them.43 But it shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant,44 and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all.45 For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

I am not going to go back and read their posts to see if they ised the Word of God, but I will post this Scripture for you to concider II Timoth 3:16

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”

The beautiful thing about the Word of God is it does not matter who brings it to our attention, because the souce is inffalibe so we have to concider it because it as Timothy said by the influance of the Holy Spirit. We will never know it all, we will be learning mo0re in the eternal state as well. The Lord is so much more them we can ever know, it will be a beautiful thing learnng more about Him in eternity.
I dont know why you bother, I can make it past the first sentence of your less than honest post , Good day, Praise Jesus:eek:
(BTW The one fellow already admitting to being rude he calls it "less than gracious", so the rest of your post is hate filled garbage based on dishonesty)