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prove-all

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Christ is new testament. That name is not used in the old. You are simply being argumentative when you say that He was before. Of course He was, but He wasn't bringing gospel to the world before, was He? His position as eternal high priest was not established until His death on the cross. That is what makes Melchizedek his type, and Him the antitype. His preisthood, not His personage, is the type/antitype. Either you don't understand that or you are just nit-picking. Which is it?

are you in his book of life ?


  • Hebrews 9:26 (KJV)

    For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
  • Revelation 13:8 (KJV)

    And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


says here he was slain from the beggining
 
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That's still in the realm of the Mosaic Covenant especially as spelled out in Deureronomy 28.
You should do an indepth study on the Abrahamic Covenant, it'll do you a world of good.
You already posted "The Jews broke the conditional Mosaic Covenant but God is faithful to perform the UNCONDITIONAL Abrahamic, Land, Davidic and New Covenants."

Josh 23:14-16 proves the land covenant was conditional. One has to conditionally be a Christian to be part of Abraham's seed and heir to the promise, Gal 3:29
 
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prove-all

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God is not done with his people Isreal.

33But this shall be (the covenant) that I will make with (the house of Israel); After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.



26A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

28And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.


Genesis 28:15 “I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest,
and will bring thee againinto this land; for I will not leave thee,
until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of”


ezekiel 36

19And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries:
21But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

22Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went

24For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
 
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Is forever timed? When ones life ends, any agreement made with that individual ceases to be applicable. Is forever a different period of time for different people?

When a spouse tells his love "I'll always love you", or "I'll love you forever", don't both really understand that if one dies the other can remarry without any recrimination due to that vow?
Does love cease once the spouse dies? Does love for the dead spouse cease when one remarries?
 
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chubbena

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Psalm 119:89 Your word, Lord, is eternal;it stands firm in the heavens.
Psalm 119:160 All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal.
Matthew 5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Forever, when it comes to the law, is at least until heaven and earth disappear.
 
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FOREVER

When one reads in the bible the term FOR EVER one thinks of time without end, never over, for ever and ever. The bible shows us the different meanings that for ever can have.

In the following verses FOR EVER means continuous as long as the factors involved existed. When the factors changed such as one of the parties dying then the for ever also dies.

Exodus 21:6 KJV Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

Leviticus 25:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

Deut. 15:17 Then thou shalt take an aul, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise.

When for ever is connected with God it can mean time without end.

Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

When referring to mortal man it can mean a lifetime.

1 Samuel 1:22 But Hannah went not up; for she said unto her husband, I will not go up until the child be weaned, and then I will bring him, that he may appear before the LORD, and there abide for ever.

1 Samuel 1:28 Therefore also I have lent him to the LORD; as long as he liveth he shall be lent to the LORD. And he worshipped the LORD there.

It can also mean much less then a lifetime.

Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Many words and verses have different meanings and that is why it is important to read and study all the text on a given subject.

One more:

Jeremiah 17:27 But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.

Now that fire that God said shall not be put out is out therefore it did burn itself out and was not quenched. Think back on the verses that talk about a hell fire that is not quenched (Mark 9:42-48) and worms don't die.

Mark 9:42-48 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. 43And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 45And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 46Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 47And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Forever does not have to mean time without end, fires that can't be quenched do stop burning & worms do die! Think about it, did God give worms an immortal soul! I Know that God gave worms a soul but I find no support for immortal worm souls in the bible.

Mac.
 
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Raine

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I didn't read everyone's posts... but...

To be in forever is when we live in God's timing... And God is not limited to time. He lives in the past, present and future. Forever is a place where time does not exist, yet, it never gets boring.
 

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I didn't read everyone's posts... but...

To be in forever is when we live in God's timing... And God is not limited to time. He lives in the past, present and future. Forever is a place where time does not exist, yet, it never gets boring.
"Forever is going to start tonight..."
 

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Tommorow is the first day of the rest of my mortal life,

and could be my last, all one heart beat away