For the believer, when does God forgive sins?
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You are understanding perfectly well on the topic at hand. 
The position that "regeneration precedes belief" is unsupported in scripture and a complete outlier promoted by a few people with big voices in the world of theology.
To change the soteriology clearly taught in scripture to "believe" as a condition and a responsibility is a serious matter in my view.
The position that "regeneration precedes belief" is unsupported in scripture and a complete outlier promoted by a few people with big voices in the world of theology.
To change the soteriology clearly taught in scripture to "believe" as a condition and a responsibility is a serious matter in my view.
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Jesus' sacrifice did provide forgiveness of sin for all. However, not all will take hold of what Jesus died to provide.
Paul explained what happens when people believe and obey God's command to be baptized. Clearly, people did not grasp that their personal sins were dealt with at that point, and this remains true of many today.
Rom 6:3-11
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? (See Col 2:10-14)
we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Paul explained what happens when people believe and obey God's command to be baptized. Clearly, people did not grasp that their personal sins were dealt with at that point, and this remains true of many today.
Rom 6:3-11
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? (See Col 2:10-14)
we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Acts 10:34-35
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Acts 10:34-35
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
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You are understanding perfectly well on the topic at hand.
The position that "regeneration precedes belief" is unsupported in scripture and a complete outlier promoted by a few people with big voices in the world of theology.
To change the soteriology clearly taught in scripture to "believe" as a condition and a responsibility is a serious matter in my view.
The position that "regeneration precedes belief" is unsupported in scripture and a complete outlier promoted by a few people with big voices in the world of theology.
To change the soteriology clearly taught in scripture to "believe" as a condition and a responsibility is a serious matter in my view.
“and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.
( Gods work in us doesnt nullify our duty it enables us )
Do everything without grumbling or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.” Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky as you hold firmly to the word of life.
And then I will be able to boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor in vain.”
Philippians 2:11-16
As we hear and believe the truth and begin to follow in obedience God is working in us on our Will to change it and make it like Christs will but the key is to trust what he says in the gospel
his work in us is here it’s why we have to believe him it’s the truth and only way
“To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.””
John 8:31-32 NIV
His word is what’s working in our hearts and minds to change us our Will and actions we don’t then take the attitude “ I don’t need to do anything he said now , he’s trying to create the attitude “ ll I have to do is trust and listen to and follow my savior “