For those of you keeping the Sabbath........

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chubbena

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A sign between God and man is not the same as a seal or a mark being placed on a man’s forehead. The seal of God that is placed on believers has nothing to do with whether or not one observes the Sabbath on Saturday or Sunday but instead whether one has that circumcision of the heart that comes with being born again! Isn’t it time you leave this guess work theology that places the traditions of men above the word of God behind and search for truth?
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Is believing in the book of Isaiah guess work theology that places the traditions of men above the word of God? I don't get it.
 
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Num 28:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Command the children of Israel, and say unto them, My offering, ...
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The Bible says sacrifice to be made in the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name. He, the father and the Holy Spirit dwell in those who love Him and obey His commandments now. Therefore, I urge you, in view of God's mercy, to offer your body as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God - this is your spiritual act of worship, and double it up on the sabbath.
 
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KohenMatt said:
There's nothing wrong with blessing a group of people doing something unique to them. If you feel it's divisive and wrong to do so, please feel free to start a different thread about it.

In the meantime, this is about blessing people who honor the Sabbath. If you feel divided because of that, I'd be more than happy to start a thread blessing those who don't honorthe sabbath.

Thanks so much,
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I don't think it's biblical to bless those who don't honor the sabbath. Probably should invite those who have not honored the sabbath to start honoring it now in order to share the blessings of those who do.
 
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chubbena said:
The Bible says sacrifice to be made in the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name. He, the father and the Holy Spirit dwell in those who love Him and obey His commandments now. Therefore, I urge you, in view of God's mercy, to offer your body as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God - this is your spiritual act of worship, and double it up on the sabbath.
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Where is the scripture that says "double it up on the sabbath?" :confused:

Does that mean that I should carry two crosses on the sabbath? :confused:

Luke 9:23 ¶ And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
 
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Romans 8:16
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.

Romans 13:8
Fulfilling the Law Through Love
8Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

why didn't Paul say the Sabbath is the ONLY LAW that shows we are God's children?
why didn't he mention it AT ALL?:)
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Because Paul was talking about the love one another aspect of the law, may be? Neither did he mention you shall have no other gods before me nor you shall no make for yourself an idol nor you shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
 
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chubbena

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Where is the scripture that says "double it up on the sabbath?" :confused:

Does that mean that I should carry two crosses on the sabbath? :confused:

Luke 9:23 ¶ And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
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I was using your chain of thought. I think you know the sacrifices you mentioned were to double up on Sabbath. I'm glad we are not taling about feast of weeks or you probably think you'd have to carry 10 crosses.
 
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Ellen G White was a false prophetess;

There never was a message from the 3 angels;

SDAism is talked about in NT as doctrines of demons
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Ellen G White was probably a false prophet.
Jonah was probably one too for what he said didn't come about. May be the reason he got so mad and went the other way when God told him to preach in Nineveh for he knew God would change His mind and rendered him a false prophet - that's pure speculation.
However, I searched the NT and didn't find SDAism. I also searched the NT and saw doctrines of demons were about forbidding people to marry and abstain from certain foods but not about sabbath keeping. So where is your idea from?
 
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Where is the scripture that says "double it up on the sabbath?" :confused:

Does that mean that I should carry two crosses on the sabbath? :confused:

Luke 9:23 ¶ And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
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chubbena said:
I was using your chain of thought. I think you know the sacrifices you mentioned were to double up on Sabbath. I'm glad we are not taling about feast of weeks or you probably think you'd have to carry 10 crosses.
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Taking up my cross daily is work, which is the opposite of rest

So, with no animal sacrifice and no rest, how does one keep the sabbath? :confused:
 
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chubbena said:
Ellen G White was probably a false prophet.
Jonah was probably one too for what he said didn't come about. May be the reason he got so mad and went the other way when God told him to preach in Nineveh for he knew God would change His mind and rendered him a false prophet - that's pure speculation.
However, I searched the NT and didn't find SDAism. I also searched the NT and saw doctrines of demons were about forbidding people to marry and abstain from certain foods but not about sabbath keeping. So where is your idea from?
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Wow, So you are comparing Ellen G White's many failed prophecies with Jonah's prophecy of destruction--given to him by God? The repented of the sins and God changed his mind.

So when Ellen said the end of the world is in 9 months this means God changed his mind and Ellen was still right? Have you ever looked at her failed prophecies? --there are dozens of them.
 
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Wow, So you are comparing Ellen G White's many failed prophecies with Jonah's prophecy of destruction--given to him by God? The repented of the sins and God changed his mind.

So when Ellen said the end of the world is in 9 months this means God changed his mind and Ellen was still right? Have you ever looked at her failed prophecies? --there are dozens of them.
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Yes it's absurd to put Ellen G White together with Jonah. Just as absurd is to put sabbath keepers together with SDA. Got it?
 
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Thanks Matt for reminding us of those words in Isaiah. It helps to make this day very special.

When God's word is given, and God's ways spoken of, it brings out the people who like to dispute. It just makes the words of the people speaking for God's word more precious.
 
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Praus said:
Taking up my cross daily is work, which is the opposite of rest

So, with no animal sacrifice and no rest, how does one keep the sabbath? :confused:
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Do you not understand what Jesus was talking about or do you just trying to be funny? Just so there's no misunderstanding - animal sacrifice in the OT was performed by priests only. I hope you know Priests doing his tasks on sabbath was not breaking the law.
 
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The sabbath was made holy inn the begining now look at the end . 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, says the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, says the LORD.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh . Transgressed rebelled against look what God said about rebelion . 1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has also rejected you from being king. rebellion is like witchcraft or idolatry and look 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie. So keep breaking Gods commandments and teaching others you will reap a reward worthy of thy labor
 
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Where is the scripture that says "double it up on the sabbath?" :confused:

Does that mean that I should carry two crosses on the sabbath? :confused:

Luke 9:23 ¶ And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
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chubbena said:
I was using your chain of thought. I think you know the sacrifices you mentioned were to double up on Sabbath. I'm glad we are not taling about feast of weeks or you probably think you'd have to carry 10 crosses.
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Praus said:
Taking up my cross daily is work, which is the opposite of rest

So, with no animal sacrifice and no rest, how does one keep the sabbath? :confused:
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chubbena said:
Do you not understand what Jesus was talking about or do you just trying to be funny? Just so there's no misunderstanding - animal sacrifice in the OT was performed by priests only. I hope you know Priests doing his tasks on sabbath was not breaking the law.
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So no animal sacrifice at all--that's for sure.

Are you confirming or denying the work that Jesus Christ did on the cross?

Should a Christian rest on the sabbath or work as Jesus Christ instructed them to in Luke 9:23?

 
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Welll if you read te book of hebrews it says no more animal sacrifices and no one is denying jesus you are plain rude
 
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chubbena

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Praus said:
So no animal sacrifice at all--that's for sure.

Are you confirming or denying the work that Jesus Christ did on the cross?

Should a Christian rest on the sabbath or work as Jesus Christ instructed them to in Luke 9:23?
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Same question for you - do you not understand what Jesus was talking about in Luke 9:23? If you truly understand, you will not use this as an argument. If you don't, I can share my understanding with you here - He says you must deny yourself, prepare to die like Him everyday and follow Him. Of course the verse doesn't literally say "prepare to die like Him" so you may literally take up a wooden cross, the one like Jesus carried, where ever you go even on sabbath. I won't judge you.
 
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Many speak without truly observing the words jesus taught us true meaning of everything but i still observe his Holy day i am not adventist but i am apostolic it shows on isaiah 66 that his sabbath will be observed in the kingdom to come as for me and my house we will preppare for the future kingdom to reap the rewards all thanks to yashuah hamashiach
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Welll if you read te book of hebrews it says no more animal sacrifices
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I wonder what you know about the book of Hebrews that James and Paul didn't know? :confused:

Acts 21:18 And the [day] following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. ... 26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.


Apostol2013 said:
and no one is denying jesus
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That's not clear from his answer.
chubbena said:
Same question for you
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Apostol2013 said:
you are plain rude
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:)

1 Kin 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, ...
 
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chubbena said:
Same question for you
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Every moment I'm alive confirms the work He did on the cross.

1 Pet 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.


chubbena said:
- do you not understand what Jesus was talking about in Luke 9:23? If you truly understand, you will not use this as an argument. If you don't, I can share my understanding with you here - He says you must deny yourself, prepare to die like Him everyday and follow Him. Of course the verse doesn't literally say "prepare to die like Him" so you may literally take up a wooden cross, the one like Jesus carried, where ever you go even on sabbath. I won't judge you.
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Is that your instructions or Jesus' instructions? :confused:

John 21:15-19 ¶ So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. 16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. ... 19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

Luke 9:23 ¶ And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
 
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