For we are not wrestling with flesh
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For our weapons are not carnal, butmighty, through god to the tearing down of strongholds.
Anybody had to do an spiritual warefare? Have you had to rebuke the enemy or fast for the
oppressed? Wrestle against spiritual wickedness in high places? Or stand on the scripture,
when the enemy comes in like a flood the spirit of the lord will raise up a standard against
him? Have you ever ministered to someone and then see the manifistation of a spirit in them?
If you have then mabe you will understand the annointing of god. Im not talking about rebuking
a person either.
Anybody had to do an spiritual warefare? Have you had to rebuke the enemy or fast for the
oppressed? Wrestle against spiritual wickedness in high places? Or stand on the scripture,
when the enemy comes in like a flood the spirit of the lord will raise up a standard against
him? Have you ever ministered to someone and then see the manifistation of a spirit in them?
If you have then mabe you will understand the annointing of god. Im not talking about rebuking
a person either.
I believe we are fighting devils in high places. Daniel 10:12 "Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words. 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia." The angel speaks with Daniel about the difficulty he had in bringing the message. You can see that there is warfare in the spiritual.
Matthew 12:29
Or how can a person go into a strong man's house and carry off his goods (the entire equipment of his house) without first binding the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.
This is a warning. God is trying to say Satan can't come and steal from you if you bind him up and fight him. It means don't just sit around doing nothing to Satan. Or he's telling you what Satan will do to you and your family if you don't do your job.
Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind (declare to be improper and unlawful) on earth must be what is already bound in heaven; and whatever you loose (declare lawful) on earth must be what is already loosed in heaven.
This telling you to fight Satan. Your not to be sitting back and expecting God to do everything when he told you to do it in his name.
Mark 3:27
But no one can go into a strong man's house and ransack his household goods right and left and seize them as plunder unless he first binds the strong man; then indeed he may [thoroughly] plunder his house.
Acts 21:11
And coming to [see] us, he took Paul's belt and with it bound his own feet and hands and said, Thus says the Holy Spirit: The Jews at Jerusalem shall bind like this the man who owns this belt, and they shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles (heathen).
This was God warning what Satan was going to do.
12For we are not wrestling with flesh and blood
That means you are warring demons and evil spirits. They live in people. It means to always know to not hate the human but know you are warring the demons in them. That is not hard to understand. Peoples lives are in need of you getting it and being in Gods army.
Plus the demons flying all over. The ones around you don't see. They have power to kill. They are killing all over the world because of Christians who don't do their jobs.
That means you are warring demons and evil spirits. They live in people. It means to always know to not hate the human but know you are warring the demons in them. That is not hard to understand. Peoples lives are in need of you getting it and being in Gods army.
Plus the demons flying all over. The ones around you don't see. They have power to kill. They are killing all over the world because of Christians who don't do their jobs.
2 Corinthians 10:4
For the weapons of our warfare are not physical [weapons of flesh and blood], but they are mighty before God for the overthrow and destruction of strongholds,
Philemon 1:2
And to Apphia our sister and Archippus our fellow soldier [in the Christian warfare], and to the church [assembly that meets] in your house:
Revelation 11:7
But when they have finished their testimony and their evidence is all in, the beast (monster) that comes up out of the Abyss (bottomless pit) will wage war on them, and conquer them and kill them.
This is happening to us.
That's us. Satan is trying to kill us and our families and the church is asleep.
God bless you!
For the weapons of our warfare are not physical [weapons of flesh and blood], but they are mighty before God for the overthrow and destruction of strongholds,
Philemon 1:2
And to Apphia our sister and Archippus our fellow soldier [in the Christian warfare], and to the church [assembly that meets] in your house:
Revelation 11:7
But when they have finished their testimony and their evidence is all in, the beast (monster) that comes up out of the Abyss (bottomless pit) will wage war on them, and conquer them and kill them.
This is happening to us.
- Revelation 12:7
Then war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels went forth to battle with the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought.
Revelation 12:6-8 (in Context) Revelation 12 (Whole Chapter) - Revelation 12:17
So then the dragon was furious (enraged) at the woman, and he went away to wage war on the remainder of her descendants--[on those] who obey God's commandments and who have the testimony of Jesus Christ [and adhere to it and bear witness to Him].
That's us. Satan is trying to kill us and our families and the church is asleep.
God bless you!
I never said we fight devils in the physical if that's what you think. But we do fight them in the spiritual. That what the armour of God is for. As Jesus resisted the Devil on the mountain, so we resist the Devil and he will flee from us. Don't forget the shield of faith that quenches the firey darts of the enemy.
You mentioned the shield of faith (Eph 6:16), can you tell us what that shield of faith is that the believer is to raise up? What are these fiery darts that are being referred to, that need to be extinguished and quenched? What is the target of these fiery darts that come from the enemy against the believer and how do they effect the believer if they get through?
Matthew 12
Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22 Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw. 23 And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” 24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” 25 Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. 26 And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house. 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Who is the primary speaker in this passage?
Jesus Christ.
What is the subject?
the coming of The Kingdom of God
Who cast the demon out?
Jesus Christ.
What was Jesus Christ demonstrating to the Pharisees?
The He was The Promised Messiah, and the The Kingdom of God had come upon them.
Who is referred to as "the god of this world" who possesses (owns, enslaves) men?
Satan, here referred to as Beelzebul.
Who is referred to as "the strong man" who possesses (owns, enslaves) men?
Satan, here referred to as Beelzebul.
Who demonstrated He, by the Spirit of God cast out a demon, underling of the Prince of Demons Satan?
Jesus.
Who makes claim to having bound the strong man (Satan) in order to plunder his house and take away his possessions (possessed man)?
Jesus.
Who makes it clear that it is the Spirit of God operating in Power, and that He is that demonstrating that Power?
Jesus.
Who makes it clear that mocking the Power of Spirit of God demonstrated by Jesus will not be forgiven?
Jesus.
Who makes it clear that mocking the Power of Spirit of God demonstrated by Jesus by claiming Jesus performed His miracles by the power of beelzebub will never be forgiven?
Jesus.
Does any part of this entire historical narrative about what JESUS DID have anything to do with Loveschild in 2011, unless she says Jesus bound the strong man (satan) by Beelzebub himself?
No.
should we ever use this passage about The coming of The Kingdom of God to Israel 2000 years ago in Power; The Holy Spirit; Jesus binding satan; and The Pharisees' terrible sin to justify Pentecostal charismatic activity in churches that call themselves Christian?
No. Never. Ever.
the unpardonable sin:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":
Yes.
will Loveschild corrupt this text to accuse those who condemn the Charismatic mayhem of blasphemy of the holy Spirit?
Yes. it happens regularly.
will The Lord be pleased with such reckless mishandling of His Word, particularly surrounding such a grave and dangerous issue?
No.
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Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22 Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw. 23 And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” 24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” 25 Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. 26 And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house. 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Who is the primary speaker in this passage?
Jesus Christ.
What is the subject?
the coming of The Kingdom of God
Who cast the demon out?
Jesus Christ.
What was Jesus Christ demonstrating to the Pharisees?
The He was The Promised Messiah, and the The Kingdom of God had come upon them.
Who is referred to as "the god of this world" who possesses (owns, enslaves) men?
Satan, here referred to as Beelzebul.
Who is referred to as "the strong man" who possesses (owns, enslaves) men?
Satan, here referred to as Beelzebul.
Who demonstrated He, by the Spirit of God cast out a demon, underling of the Prince of Demons Satan?
Jesus.
Who makes claim to having bound the strong man (Satan) in order to plunder his house and take away his possessions (possessed man)?
Jesus.
Who makes it clear that it is the Spirit of God operating in Power, and that He is that demonstrating that Power?
Jesus.
Who makes it clear that mocking the Power of Spirit of God demonstrated by Jesus will not be forgiven?
Jesus.
Who makes it clear that mocking the Power of Spirit of God demonstrated by Jesus by claiming Jesus performed His miracles by the power of beelzebub will never be forgiven?
Jesus.
Does any part of this entire historical narrative about what JESUS DID have anything to do with Loveschild in 2011, unless she says Jesus bound the strong man (satan) by Beelzebub himself?
No.
should we ever use this passage about The coming of The Kingdom of God to Israel 2000 years ago in Power; The Holy Spirit; Jesus binding satan; and The Pharisees' terrible sin to justify Pentecostal charismatic activity in churches that call themselves Christian?
No. Never. Ever.
the unpardonable sin:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":
- He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
- He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
- He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
Yes.
will Loveschild corrupt this text to accuse those who condemn the Charismatic mayhem of blasphemy of the holy Spirit?
Yes. it happens regularly.
will The Lord be pleased with such reckless mishandling of His Word, particularly surrounding such a grave and dangerous issue?
No.
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Matthew 16
Peter Confesses Jesus as the Christ
13Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” 14And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” 20Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ.
Acts 2
36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
37 Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
what is the subject of these two passages?
Jesus Christ, The Anointed One, The Son of God and coming of The Kingdom of Heaven
What authority or responsibility is represented by "the keys of the kingdom of heaven"?
the binding (restricting) or loosing (allowing) of something concerning entry to the kingdom of heaven.
to whom were the "keys" given and on what ground?
Peter, based on His Divinely revealed understanding of Who Jesus is.
What does peter use "the keys" for?
restricting or allowing entry into the kingdom of heaven based upon the evidence of metanoia and the right understanding of who Jesus is.
what is it shown, through Peter's instructions that the "keys" represent?
Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
the "keys"
1) Repent.
2) be baptizedin the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
3) receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
do the "keys" to the kingdom of heaven given first to Peter, then used by all qualified and equipped men of God, have anything whatsoever to do with fighting demons or unbiblical spiritual warfare pratices seen in Charismatic circles today?
No.
Nothing whatsoever.
is God mocked by this corruption of His word and the mockery of those precious keys?
Absolutely.
will Charismatics posting in this very thread find a way to accuse me of being satan or a dog or blaspheming the Holy Spirit even though they have been shown the grave error of what they doing?
Absolutely.
Acts 21
Paul Goes to Jerusalem
1And when we had parted from them and set sail, we came by a straight course to Cos, and the next day to Rhodes, and from there to Patara.a 2And having found a ship crossing to Phoenicia, we went aboard and set sail. 3When we had come in sight of Cyprus, leaving it on the left we sailed to Syria and landed at Tyre, for there the ship was to unload its cargo. 4And having sought out the disciples, we stayed there for seven days. And through the Spirit they were telling Paul not to go on to Jerusalem. 5When our days there were ended, we departed and went on our journey, and they all, with wives and children, accompanied us until we were outside the city. And kneeling down on the beach, we prayed 6and said farewell to one another. Then we went on board the ship, and they returned home.
7When we had finished the voyage from Tyre, we arrived at Ptolemais, and we greeted the brothersb and stayed with them for one day. 8On the next day we departed and came to Caesarea, and we entered the house of Philip the evangelist, who was one of the seven, and stayed with him. 9He had four unmarried daughters, who prophesied. 10While we were staying for many days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. 11And coming to us, he took Paul’s belt and bound his own feet and hands and said, “Thus says the Holy Spirit, ‘This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’” 12When we heard this, we and the people there urged him not to go up to Jerusalem. 13Then Paul answered, “What are you doing, weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be imprisoned but even to die in Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.” 14And since he would not be persuaded, we ceased and said, “Let the will of the Lord be done.”
15After these days we got ready and went up to Jerusalem. 16And some of the disciples from Caesarea went with us, bringing us to the house of Mnason of Cyprus, an early disciple, with whom we should lodge.
do we see a rare example of a New Testament Apostolic era prophet named?
Yes. 'Agabus'
what was that prophet's mission, (as were all the prophets offices were tied directly to the Aposltes and the new christians?
To reveal to Paul by the Holy Spirit that "This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles."
does this historical event involving Agabus and Paul have anything whatsoever to do with Loveschild or Charismatics in 1460, or 1957, or 2011?
Absolutely Not.
is God mocked when we take passages out of context this way and apply them to unbiblical pagan practices?
Absolutely.
will anyone who has been doing this rethink it?
Who can say? some do. most do not.
Pastor Bob DeWaay is one who did.
Critical Issues Commentaries.
Matthew 16
Peter Confesses Jesus as the Christ
13Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” 14And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” 20Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ.
Acts 2
36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
37 Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
what is the subject of these two passages?
Jesus Christ, The Anointed One, The Son of God and coming of The Kingdom of Heaven
What authority or responsibility is represented by "the keys of the kingdom of heaven"?
the binding (restricting) or loosing (allowing) of something concerning entry to the kingdom of heaven.
to whom were the "keys" given and on what ground?
Peter, based on His Divinely revealed understanding of Who Jesus is.
What does peter use "the keys" for?
restricting or allowing entry into the kingdom of heaven based upon the evidence of metanoia and the right understanding of who Jesus is.
what is it shown, through Peter's instructions that the "keys" represent?
Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
the "keys"
1) Repent.
2) be baptizedin the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
3) receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
do the "keys" to the kingdom of heaven given first to Peter, then used by all qualified and equipped men of God, have anything whatsoever to do with fighting demons or unbiblical spiritual warfare pratices seen in Charismatic circles today?
No.
Nothing whatsoever.
is God mocked by this corruption of His word and the mockery of those precious keys?
Absolutely.
will Charismatics posting in this very thread find a way to accuse me of being satan or a dog or blaspheming the Holy Spirit even though they have been shown the grave error of what they doing?
Absolutely.
Acts 21
Paul Goes to Jerusalem
1And when we had parted from them and set sail, we came by a straight course to Cos, and the next day to Rhodes, and from there to Patara.a 2And having found a ship crossing to Phoenicia, we went aboard and set sail. 3When we had come in sight of Cyprus, leaving it on the left we sailed to Syria and landed at Tyre, for there the ship was to unload its cargo. 4And having sought out the disciples, we stayed there for seven days. And through the Spirit they were telling Paul not to go on to Jerusalem. 5When our days there were ended, we departed and went on our journey, and they all, with wives and children, accompanied us until we were outside the city. And kneeling down on the beach, we prayed 6and said farewell to one another. Then we went on board the ship, and they returned home.
7When we had finished the voyage from Tyre, we arrived at Ptolemais, and we greeted the brothersb and stayed with them for one day. 8On the next day we departed and came to Caesarea, and we entered the house of Philip the evangelist, who was one of the seven, and stayed with him. 9He had four unmarried daughters, who prophesied. 10While we were staying for many days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. 11And coming to us, he took Paul’s belt and bound his own feet and hands and said, “Thus says the Holy Spirit, ‘This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’” 12When we heard this, we and the people there urged him not to go up to Jerusalem. 13Then Paul answered, “What are you doing, weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be imprisoned but even to die in Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.” 14And since he would not be persuaded, we ceased and said, “Let the will of the Lord be done.”
15After these days we got ready and went up to Jerusalem. 16And some of the disciples from Caesarea went with us, bringing us to the house of Mnason of Cyprus, an early disciple, with whom we should lodge.
do we see a rare example of a New Testament Apostolic era prophet named?
Yes. 'Agabus'
what was that prophet's mission, (as were all the prophets offices were tied directly to the Aposltes and the new christians?
To reveal to Paul by the Holy Spirit that "This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles."
does this historical event involving Agabus and Paul have anything whatsoever to do with Loveschild or Charismatics in 1460, or 1957, or 2011?
Absolutely Not.
is God mocked when we take passages out of context this way and apply them to unbiblical pagan practices?
Absolutely.
will anyone who has been doing this rethink it?
Who can say? some do. most do not.
Pastor Bob DeWaay is one who did.
Critical Issues Commentaries.
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Zone if anyone does cast a spirit out of someone it is only through god, not of themselves, there is no way you could.
If you tried on your own, the spirit would probly say paul, I know, Jesus I know, but who are you?
Why should we even be arguing about this stuff when there are people who need prayer or encouraged.
The rest is history. It all boils down to love your neighbor as yourself, even if we dont believe the same.
We all still have the same goal in mind.
If you tried on your own, the spirit would probly say paul, I know, Jesus I know, but who are you?
Why should we even be arguing about this stuff when there are people who need prayer or encouraged.
The rest is history. It all boils down to love your neighbor as yourself, even if we dont believe the same.
We all still have the same goal in mind.