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It`s true that such tokens could sometimes become a "tug of war", trying to understand and get them unveiled. But if one masters the art of humbleness, his sights can be regain and only then he may see. For the scriptures tells us.......to have true understandings, we must first know God. (Proverbs 9:10; Psalm 111:10) So to know Him, we must humbly study and meditates on His word day and night. (Joshua 1:8) Believe me........this is the trigger to my understanding of all this mysteries.
Now here is a deal. I will show you an overwhelming historical evidence which you`ve already seen, so clear like "the rising and the setting of the sun". Though it never yet occured to you as that sign which you still await to come. But first, please, i would kindly like you, to please kindly answer the five following questions if you do not mind:
(1). Who is the one seated on the horse in Revelation 19:19 ?
(2). Who is the beat and the false prophet that were captured in Revelation 19:20 ?
(3). What does "the stone" in Daniel 2:34 represents ?
(4). What is the campaign in Revelation chapter 19 all about ?
(5). Who is the great harlöt in Revelation 19:2 ?
Please you`re free to respond with even short answers. Thank you very much and may God bless you.
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What a baffling posts you both have posted. It`s ridiculous that you guys never posted and pulled out your Troll Dictionary after reading his post #10, where he insulted me. Don`t tell me you both never saw his preposterous post againt me. Or is this act of yours a cohort thing or sidekick thing?? Or is it a place for nationalistic division!!?? (1 Corinthians 1:10)
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well lets see
1. He answered your first question, we do consider what you said.
2. He responded to your second part with a sincere question. Why do you claim that we (as dispensationals) teach what you claim.
3. and finally, he gave a general observation of your whole post. which was based on false precepts. And lack of knowledge on what we actually believe.
And you call that mocking? I will be honest. I would call your origional post as insulting, non truthful, and (I would say what I really think, but probably not a good idea in here)
so, you offended 3 people by insulting our intelligence with nonsense that we do not even believe and would never teach, and you get angry when we stand up for the truth. and call it causing division? wow.. just wow
1. He answered your first question, we do consider what you said.
2. He responded to your second part with a sincere question. Why do you claim that we (as dispensationals) teach what you claim.
3. and finally, he gave a general observation of your whole post. which was based on false precepts. And lack of knowledge on what we actually believe.
And you call that mocking? I will be honest. I would call your origional post as insulting, non truthful, and (I would say what I really think, but probably not a good idea in here)
so, you offended 3 people by insulting our intelligence with nonsense that we do not even believe and would never teach, and you get angry when we stand up for the truth. and call it causing division? wow.. just wow
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To be sincere, if i use these phrases against you: "you should be ashame" and "deliberately twisted and obfuscated" the words of the scriptures, how will you feel? Really, are these friendly?
!! i was a little tempted to anger cuz of his post but now you make me laugh with your last post. I mean the "trap" and "start first" thing. I have no trap plan or what you are thinking. I only need those answers to help you guys understand these mysteries. I already understood these visions. Moreover, if i start first, still you will not belive me nor accept my interpretation, so it makes no point me starting first.
So friend, just kindly give the answers, i mean your interpretation. Lets compose like the body of Christ we are and show one another the love of God. Thanks
!! i was a little tempted to anger cuz of his post but now you make me laugh with your last post. I mean the "trap" and "start first" thing. I have no trap plan or what you are thinking. I only need those answers to help you guys understand these mysteries. I already understood these visions. Moreover, if i start first, still you will not belive me nor accept my interpretation, so it makes no point me starting first.So friend, just kindly give the answers, i mean your interpretation. Lets compose like the body of Christ we are and show one another the love of God. Thanks
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there mere fact you misrepresented what we believe, (based on mere assumptions) and when confronted by it, You have not yet humbled yourself even a little to try to figure out why it is you believe we teach and believe something we do not. Speaks loudly.
does the word humble even enter into your dictionary? (if not, it is ok, it is in not in the troll dictionary either.
!! i was a little tempted to anger cuz of his post but now you make me laugh with your last post. I mean the "trap" and "start first" thing. I have no trap plan or what you are thinking. I only need those answers to help you guys understand these mysteries. I already understood these visions. Moreover, if i start first, still you will not belive me nor accept my interpretation, so it makes no point me starting first.
So friend, just kindly give the answers, i mean your interpretation. Lets compose like the body of Christ we are and show one another the love of God. Thanks
Maybe when you are humble enough to admit you have thought we teach and believe something we do not. THEN we can get into some serious discussion.
If your not able to do that, nothing myself or anyone else say would change your mind.
can you share some humility first?
does the word humble even enter into your dictionary? (if not, it is ok, it is in not in the troll dictionary either.
!! i was a little tempted to anger cuz of his post but now you make me laugh with your last post. I mean the "trap" and "start first" thing. I have no trap plan or what you are thinking. I only need those answers to help you guys understand these mysteries. I already understood these visions. Moreover, if i start first, still you will not belive me nor accept my interpretation, so it makes no point me starting first.So friend, just kindly give the answers, i mean your interpretation. Lets compose like the body of Christ we are and show one another the love of God. Thanks
If your not able to do that, nothing myself or anyone else say would change your mind.
can you share some humility first?
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BCE? a term invented by sad unbelievers
Alexander's not the Messiah because Daniel deals with a Son of Man much more important. This Son of Man is the Son of God.
Not a fake god like Nebuchadnezzar or Alexander or Antiochus or the Caesars or Antichrist. But the real deal. The GodMan Jesus Christ.
Dan 1:2, 9, 17; 2:28; 3:25; 7:9, 14, 22, 25; 9:26.
Also the culmination of all the beasts, the 4 empires, Gentile history and domination, is the return of Christ. The Stone which
smashes the image and becomes a mountain filling the earth. This is repeated and consistent throughout the book. History doesn't end with Antiochus or Titus, or even with Christ's being cut off. Rather it ends with Christ's glorious return to take rightful possession of the earth He created.
In particular, the 70 x 7 years determined upon Israel, with the indefinite, mysterious gap for the mysterious church age included, is written to be: To close out transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make propitiation for iniquity, and to bring in the righteousness of the ages, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. These are not pagan matters.
Jesus Christ, Jesus the Messiah
Jesus Christ
Christ delivering and saving Israel, Christ taking possession of the planet, Christ destroying
Antichrist and his false prophet, then binding Satan-------the counterfeit trinity
Alexander's not the Messiah because Daniel deals with a Son of Man much more important. This Son of Man is the Son of God.
Not a fake god like Nebuchadnezzar or Alexander or Antiochus or the Caesars or Antichrist. But the real deal. The GodMan Jesus Christ.
Dan 1:2, 9, 17; 2:28; 3:25; 7:9, 14, 22, 25; 9:26.
Also the culmination of all the beasts, the 4 empires, Gentile history and domination, is the return of Christ. The Stone which
smashes the image and becomes a mountain filling the earth. This is repeated and consistent throughout the book. History doesn't end with Antiochus or Titus, or even with Christ's being cut off. Rather it ends with Christ's glorious return to take rightful possession of the earth He created.
In particular, the 70 x 7 years determined upon Israel, with the indefinite, mysterious gap for the mysterious church age included, is written to be: To close out transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make propitiation for iniquity, and to bring in the righteousness of the ages, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. These are not pagan matters.
Jesus Christ, Jesus the Messiah
Jesus Christ
Christ delivering and saving Israel, Christ taking possession of the planet, Christ destroying
Antichrist and his false prophet, then binding Satan-------the counterfeit trinity
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Sorry, i don`t have a clue on what you believe nor what you teach but it seems the gulf between us in respect of the understanding involving this whole issue is way too far, and i would say, its a pity. For me, just trying to reveal what has been revealed to me by the Spirit to those who were meant to hear and accept by the same Spirit. I am being pushed to just keep telling these truths.
I am not doing this on my own but these truths burns inside of me like a hot coal which i must bring out and be free. I never wanted to keep doing it, cuz when you went through a great deal to uncover things that was to bring humanity great joy and some sees you like one being intoxicated, you feel dumfounded and frustrated and i dont like that but yet, this thing is pushing me to continue. I have even suffered so much for keeping these revelations to myself alone for too long. I believe just as some have heard His (Jesus) voice through me, others will also do. So if i have offended you because i tell these truth, then let God be my Judge.
Well, concerning the question, a friend has answered #1, #3 and #4 and i must say, he did a great job. Now we still have #2 left which is the main last key to pin down the point. Thanks!
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Well-done! Well-done! Well-done! Did this interpretations came from you? If yes, its wow! I must commend you and say, you`ve known pretty much for that age and it mean the Spirit of understanding is on you, keep it up.
. I know you did not answer number 2 question cuz, perhaps you`ve not yet figured it out, though i know you will someday . But don`t worry, perhaps a good samaritan may give us a hand with that cuz we truely need number 2 answered as it is a master key for our advancement toward achieving a clear understanding on this matter.Please! Now, i must add something to your answer on #3. True, the stone represents Jesus Christ as you said . But in Daniel 2:44, notice the "stone" is not just a "stone" but a "KINGDOM" (an earthly power or nation or empire) which represents God Almighty and Jesus Christ as well. Did i make any sense?
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Rv 19:20's beast and false prophet will be Nero and Judas. If you must know.
Though apparently both in different bodies. They are not empires, or institutions,
they are people. It's a little more complicated, but then maybe you know that.
It is not a big key, as I understand that phrase.
The Stone becoming a mountain is the enlarged or expanded Jesus Christ.
Not Christ individually, alone, but the Mountain is His kingdom comprising
His Body and Bride, His co-kings........His overcomers (Rv 2--3; 5:10; 12:5; 14:1-5)
Though apparently both in different bodies. They are not empires, or institutions,
they are people. It's a little more complicated, but then maybe you know that.
It is not a big key, as I understand that phrase.
The Stone becoming a mountain is the enlarged or expanded Jesus Christ.
Not Christ individually, alone, but the Mountain is His kingdom comprising
His Body and Bride, His co-kings........His overcomers (Rv 2--3; 5:10; 12:5; 14:1-5)
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Biblically again, a "false prophet" as we all know, is simply one who fakes and claims to be a true messenger who represent the voice of God Jehovah before the people just for his selfish interest. Also notice that the "false prophet" in Revelation 19:20 is the second beast in Revelation 13:11 and this can be seen from his false miraculous act in Revelation 13:13. Understanding this point before advancing is crucial.
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this particular one forms an evil trinity of Satan, Nero, and Judas; the dragon, the beast from the sea, and the beast from the land (gentile and jew respectively).
Yes, the Lord Jesus will crush all 3, bind Satan in the abyss for 1000 years (for one more use), and rule on the old earth for 1000 years with His overcoming believers from all of time, so that the earth be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah.
(Jesus is Jehovah, Jn 8:58)
Yes, the Lord Jesus will crush all 3, bind Satan in the abyss for 1000 years (for one more use), and rule on the old earth for 1000 years with His overcoming believers from all of time, so that the earth be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah.
(Jesus is Jehovah, Jn 8:58)