FULFILLED!!! (Daniel 12:11-12)

[biblicaltruth15]

Hello again my brothers and sisters in christ! I noticed many have the idea that the prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 is pointing to our present day or still, in the future. Sorry but the truth is, the answer is, no!

This prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 began fulfilling in the 145 year (167 B.C. to 164 B.C.) of the reign of the Greek empire. This happened when Antiochus IV Epiphanes went up against Israel during "the old world". In the beginning of that year, in Jerusalem, the evil king erected a statue of Zeus inside the Temple of God and sacrified a pig on the Altar on December 25, 167 B.C. in honor of the birth of "the sun god". (1 Maccabees 1:54-64)

This single act of desolation so incited the Jews that a preist called Mattathias along side with his sons started a revolt (The Maccabees Revolt) which ended in Jewish independence for the first time since 586 B.C. This end of evil foreign rule has been celebrated as the important Jewish festival of "Hanukkah", meaning "dedication" (of the sanctuary) from 167 B.C. until today.

The 1290 days in verse 11 which is about 3 years, 6 months and some days, and the 1335 days in verse 12 which is also 3 years but 7 months and some days, are both LITERAL DAYS, conveying the same messages. Although the 1335 days in verse 12 is a continuation of the 1290 days in verse 11. The both numbers were one but was given that way by the angel to enable the Jewish or the reader understand the events which marks the fulfillment periord of the prophesy.

Now begin counting from the year of the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation", (Daniel 12:11), which was 167 B.C., the first fulfillment of the literal 1290 days, (which is 3yrs, 6mnths and some days), ended inside the year 164 B.C. (subtracting 3yrs, 6mnths and some days from 167 B.C., you arrive in the year 164 B.C.) This now marked the important day when the Jewish people reconsecrated and rededicated the Temple, which corresponed with the literal 1290 days of the angel, in Daniel 12:11. (1 Maccabees 4:52-53)

Now friends, i like you all to notice that in verse 11, the angel told Daniel: "and from the time (167 B.C.) that the daily sacrifice is taken away (that is, stoped), and the abomination of desolation (the statue of Seus) is set up (in God`s Temple), there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days" (Literal 1290 days =3yrs and 6mnths plus). Then in verse 12, the angel goes on to say: "blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days" (Literal 1335 days).

Understand that this literal 1335 days in verse 12 also includes the literal 1290 days in verse 11. In other words, a literal 45 days (1 month and some days) extension periord was added to the literal 1290 days by the angel to bring the number of the days to the literal 1335 days in verse 12. (1290 + 45 =1335). Like i said earlier on, these numbers were separated to provide a better understanding as to whom it involves and its time of occurrence.

The 45 days that was added to 1290 days to produced 1335 days (in 164 B. C.) marked the death of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, (the king who set up the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation" in 167 B. C.) In other words, the angel wanted the Israelites to understand that for them to be completely free and blessed in respect of that judgement (Antiochus yoke), the evil Antiochus Epiphanes had to be taken away (death) forever and that was why the 45 days came to played with the 1290 days.

So, the 45 days which was added to the 1290 days was the one month and some days periord in which Antiochus died and this 45 days periord began from the end of the 1290 days periord (the day the Temple was rededicated) in 164 B.C. (1 Maccabees 6:16)

I hope this informations will make sense and also help us all decide or understand the other prohesies. Thanks and God bless you all. ​

 

[NotmebutHim]

I'll let the more "senior" members sort this one out.

My brain hurts.

 

[valiant]

Hello again my brothers and sisters in christ! I noticed many have the idea that the prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 is pointing to our present day or still, in the future. Sorry but the truth is, the answer is, no!

This prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 began fulfilling in the 145 year (167 B.C. to 164 B.C.) of the reign of the Greek empire. This happened when Antiochus IV Epiphanes went up against Israel during "the old world". In the beginning of that year, in Jerusalem, the evil king erected a statue of Zeus inside the Temple of God and sacrified a pig on the Altar on December 25, 167 B.C. in honor of the birth of "the sun god". (1 Maccabees 1:54-64)

This single act of desolation so incited the Jews that a preist called Mattathias along side with his sons started a revolt (The Maccabees Revolt) which ended in Jewish independence for the first time since 586 B.C. This end of evil foreign rule has been celebrated as the important Jewish festival of "Hanukkah", meaning "dedication" (of the sanctuary) from 167 B.C. until today.

The 1290 days in verse 11 which is about 3 years, 6 months and some days, and the 1335 days in verse 12 which is also 3 years but 7 months and some days, are both LITERAL DAYS, conveying the same messages. Although the 1335 days in verse 12 is a continuation of the 1290 days in verse 11. The both numbers were one but was given that way by the angel to enable the Jewish or the reader understand the events which marks the fulfillment periord of the prophesy.

Now begin counting from the year of the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation", (Daniel 12:11), which was 167 B.C., the first fulfillment of the literal 1290 days, (which is 3yrs, 6mnths and some days), ended inside the year 164 B.C. (subtracting 3yrs, 6mnths and some days from 167 B.C., you arrive in the year 164 B.C.) This now marked the important day when the Jewish people reconsecrated and rededicated the Temple, which corresponed with the literal 1290 days of the angel, in Daniel 12:11. (1 Maccabees 4:52-53)

Now friends, i like you all to notice that in verse 11, the angel told Daniel: "and from the time (167 B.C.) that the daily sacrifice is taken away (that is, stoped), and the abomination of desolation (the statue of Seus) is set up (in God`s Temple), there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days" (Literal 1290 days =3yrs and 6mnths plus). Then in verse 12, the angel goes on to say: "blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days" (Literal 1335 days).

Understand that this literal 1335 days in verse 12 also includes the literal 1290 days in verse 11. In other words, a literal 45 days (1 month and some days) extension periord was added to the literal 1290 days by the angel to bring the number of the days to the literal 1335 days in verse 12. (1290 + 45 =1335). Like i said earlier on, these numbers were separated to provide a better understanding as to whom it involves and its time of occurrence.

The 45 days that was added to 1290 days to produced 1335 days (in 164 B. C.) marked the death of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, (the king who set up the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation" in 167 B. C.) In other words, the angel wanted the Israelites to understand that for them to be completely free and blessed in respect of that judgement (Antiochus yoke), the evil Antiochus Epiphanes had to be taken away (death) forever and that was why the 45 days came to played with the 1290 days.

So, the 45 days which was added to the 1290 days was the one month and some days periord in which Antiochus died and this 45 days periord began from the end of the 1290 days periord (the day the Temple was rededicated) in 164 B.C. (1 Maccabees 6:16)

I hope this informations will make sense and also help us all decide or understand the other prohesies. Thanks and God bless you all. ​

So true but watch out for those who like to push all fulfilments of prophesy into our own day!!!

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

I hope this informations will make sense and also help us all decide or understand the other prohesies. Thanks and God bless you all. ​

Actually, your math doesn't add up in light of the need for "Messiah to be cut off ... " -- Jesus' crucifixion -- before you can actually start looking for the 70th week, which hasn't yet arrived. It won't, either, until the time of the Gentiles has been fulfilled. That's the church age, which is obviously still in full swing -- for now.

 

[KennethC]

Not fulfilled !!!


We already have enough threads discussing this topic, and Daniel 11-12 is about the Great Tribulation period that has not taken place yet. If you once again want to make this fulfilled then the Lord's 2nd coming has already taken place, sorry but it has not !!!

 

[KennethC]

The Book of Revelation is a key to unlocking parts of Daniel especially chapters 9 through 12, for if you notice at the end of Daniels book he is told to seal up the book tell the end. The end is not yet therefore it could not have be fulfilled in the past !!!

 

[MarcR]

Hello again my brothers and sisters in christ! I noticed many have the idea that the prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 is pointing to our present day or still, in the future. Sorry but the truth is, the answer is, no!

This prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 began fulfilling in the 145 year (167 B.C. to 164 B.C.) of the reign of the Greek empire. This happened when Antiochus IV Epiphanes went up against Israel during "the old world". In the beginning of that year, in Jerusalem, the evil king erected a statue of Zeus inside the Temple of God and sacrified a pig on the Altar on December 25, 167 B.C. in honor of the birth of "the sun god". (1 Maccabees 1:54-64)

This single act of desolation so incited the Jews that a preist called Mattathias along side with his sons started a revolt (The Maccabees Revolt) which ended in Jewish independence for the first time since 586 B.C. This end of evil foreign rule has been celebrated as the important Jewish festival of "Hanukkah", meaning "dedication" (of the sanctuary) from 167 B.C. until today.

The 1290 days in verse 11 which is about 3 years, 6 months and some days, and the 1335 days in verse 12 which is also 3 years but 7 months and some days, are both LITERAL DAYS, conveying the same messages. Although the 1335 days in verse 12 is a continuation of the 1290 days in verse 11. The both numbers were one but was given that way by the angel to enable the Jewish or the reader understand the events which marks the fulfillment periord of the prophesy.

Now begin counting from the year of the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation", (Daniel 12:11), which was 167 B.C., the first fulfillment of the literal 1290 days, (which is 3yrs, 6mnths and some days), ended inside the year 164 B.C. (subtracting 3yrs, 6mnths and some days from 167 B.C., you arrive in the year 164 B.C.) This now marked the important day when the Jewish people reconsecrated and rededicated the Temple, which corresponed with the literal 1290 days of the angel, in Daniel 12:11. (1 Maccabees 4:52-53)

Now friends, i like you all to notice that in verse 11, the angel told Daniel: "and from the time (167 B.C.) that the daily sacrifice is taken away (that is, stoped), and the abomination of desolation (the statue of Seus) is set up (in God`s Temple), there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days" (Literal 1290 days =3yrs and 6mnths plus). Then in verse 12, the angel goes on to say: "blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days" (Literal 1335 days).

Understand that this literal 1335 days in verse 12 also includes the literal 1290 days in verse 11. In other words, a literal 45 days (1 month and some days) extension periord was added to the literal 1290 days by the angel to bring the number of the days to the literal 1335 days in verse 12. (1290 + 45 =1335). Like i said earlier on, these numbers were separated to provide a better understanding as to whom it involves and its time of occurrence.

The 45 days that was added to 1290 days to produced 1335 days (in 164 B. C.) marked the death of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, (the king who set up the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation" in 167 B. C.) In other words, the angel wanted the Israelites to understand that for them to be completely free and blessed in respect of that judgement (Antiochus yoke), the evil Antiochus Epiphanes had to be taken away (death) forever and that was why the 45 days came to played with the 1290 days.

So, the 45 days which was added to the 1290 days was the one month and some days periord in which Antiochus died and this 45 days periord began from the end of the 1290 days periord (the day the Temple was rededicated) in 164 B.C. (1 Maccabees 6:16)

I hope this informations will make sense and also help us all decide or understand the other prohesies. Thanks and God bless you all. ​

You are correct but, like many other prophesies, there is to be a second, end time, fulfillment.

The Maccabees were indeed deliverers; but the ultimate deliverer is Jesus.

 

[crossnote]

I take vs 11 to already be fulfilled under Antiochus but vs 12 starts off the Millennium yet future. So go figure.

 

[biblicaltruth15]

You are correct but, like many other prophesies, there is to be a second, end time, fulfillment.

The Maccabees were indeed deliverers; but the ultimate deliverer is Jesus.

Like you said, of course there is suppose to be a second "END TIME" fulfillment but have you really meditated on the words of the bible to see if it has been also FUFILLED? Friends, have we trully considered the following verses: Matthew 10:23; 16:28; 24:30 and 24:30 (and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven). Have we all meditated on that phrase? Does it really meant that the Lord`s coming will be in the mortal flesh for a second time? Since it is the nature of a mortal man to die, when He comes physically as many are expecting, so do we expect him to die again as way of another sacrifice?

Please friends, we shouldn`t become the Jews of our time. I mean, we should be very careful not to make almost the same mistake the Jewish people made in recognizing the Lamb`s first presence. Thanks all!

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Friends, have we trully considered the following verses: Matthew 10:23; 16:28; 24:30 and 24:30(and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven). Have we all meditated on that phrase?

Yes. Have you? That's the real question here. You set yourself up by using the phrases and attitude you display as "knowing" something we "haven't considered." Perhaps it is you who have been guided by the thoughts of men into thinking it means other than what it says and have not actually taken the time to figure it out for yourself? Just a thought ...

Does it really meant that the Lord`s coming will be in the mortal flesh for a second time? Since it is the nature of a mortal man to die, when He comes physically as many are expecting, so do we expect him to die again as way of another sacrifice?

That's an absurd set of questions in light of the fact that none of that is taught in Dispensationalist teaching of the Scriptures. Where do you find in anyone's exegesis of Daniel, or the Revelation, or any of the Gospels for that matter, the nonsense you attempt to attribute to those who believe in a real seven-year reign of terror by the devil's chosen, followed by Christ's return not to again be sacrificed but to judge the world? There is nothing in any of the end-times teaching on a future Tribulation that would even remotely equate to such nonsense as that we expect Him to be "sacrificed" again. Pure drivel.

Please friends, we shouldn`t become the Jews of our time. I mean, we should be very careful not to make almost the same mistake the Jewish people made in recognizing the Lamb`s first presence. Thanks all!

This is a woefully poor and miserable analysis, probably deliberately twisted and obfuscated, of Dispensationalist end-time teaching. You should be ashamed, trying to pass such a misrepresentation off as being a synopsis of what we have taught.

 

[KennethC]

Like you said, of course there is suppose to be a second "END TIME" fulfillment but have you really meditated on the words of the bible to see if it has been also FUFILLED? Friends, have we trully considered the following verses: Matthew 10:23; 16:28; 24:30 and 24:30(and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven). Have we all meditated on that phrase? Does it really meant that the Lord`s coming will be in the mortal flesh for a second time? Since it is the nature of a mortal man to die, when He comes physically as many are expecting, so do we expect him to die again as way of another sacrifice?

Please friends, we shouldn`t become the Jews of our time. I mean, we should be very careful not to make almost the same mistake the Jewish people made in recognizing the Lamb`s first presence. Thanks all!

Yes we have considered them as everybody should who reads the bible and studies the word.

To start off with Matthew 10 and Matthew 24 are different points in time, as Matthew 10 is when Jesus commissioned the Apostles/disciples to go out and spread the gospel, and Matthew 24 is about the tribulation.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Like you said, of course there is suppose to be a second "END TIME" fulfillment but have you really meditated on the words of the bible to see if it has been also FUFILLED? Friends, have we trully considered the following verses: Matthew 10:23; 16:28; 24:30 and 24:30(and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven). Have we all meditated on that phrase? Does it really meant that the Lord`s coming will be in the mortal flesh for a second time? Since it is the nature of a mortal man to die, when He comes physically as many are expecting, so do we expect him to die again as way of another sacrifice?

Please friends, we shouldn`t become the Jews of our time. I mean, we should be very careful not to make almost the same mistake the Jewish people made in recognizing the Lamb`s first presence. Thanks all!

Jesus walked the earth for many days after his resurrection. He had a physical body, ate and drank, and promised when he returned he would eat and drink again.

And why would he have to die? No place says this will happen when he comes, He comes to set up his throne, where he will never die is what the prophets promise.

matt 24 speaks of the last days, and the lords return.

 

[Gr8grace]

Hello again my brothers and sisters in christ! I noticed many have the idea that the prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 is pointing to our present day or still, in the future. Sorry but the truth is, the answer is, no!

This prophesy recorded in Daniel 12:11-12 began fulfilling in the 145 year (167 B.C. to 164 B.C.) of the reign of the Greek empire. This happened when Antiochus IV Epiphanes went up against Israel during "the old world". In the beginning of that year, in Jerusalem, the evil king erected a statue of Zeus inside the Temple of God and sacrified a pig on the Altar on December 25, 167 B.C. in honor of the birth of "the sun god". (1 Maccabees 1:54-64)

This single act of desolation so incited the Jews that a preist called Mattathias along side with his sons started a revolt (The Maccabees Revolt) which ended in Jewish independence for the first time since 586 B.C. This end of evil foreign rule has been celebrated as the important Jewish festival of "Hanukkah", meaning "dedication" (of the sanctuary) from 167 B.C. until today.

The 1290 days in verse 11 which is about 3 years, 6 months and some days, and the 1335 days in verse 12 which is also 3 years but 7 months and some days, are both LITERAL DAYS, conveying the same messages. Although the 1335 days in verse 12 is a continuation of the 1290 days in verse 11. The both numbers were one but was given that way by the angel to enable the Jewish or the reader understand the events which marks the fulfillment periord of the prophesy.

Now begin counting from the year of the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation", (Daniel 12:11), which was 167 B.C., the first fulfillment of the literal 1290 days, (which is 3yrs, 6mnths and some days), ended inside the year 164 B.C. (subtracting 3yrs, 6mnths and some days from 167 B.C., you arrive in the year 164 B.C.) This now marked the important day when the Jewish people reconsecrated and rededicated the Temple, which corresponed with the literal 1290 days of the angel, in Daniel 12:11. (1 Maccabees 4:52-53)

Now friends, i like you all to notice that in verse 11, the angel told Daniel: "and from the time (167 B.C.) that the daily sacrifice is taken away (that is, stoped), and the abomination of desolation (the statue of Seus) is set up (in God`s Temple), there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days" (Literal 1290 days =3yrs and 6mnths plus). Then in verse 12, the angel goes on to say: "blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days" (Literal 1335 days).

Understand that this literal 1335 days in verse 12 also includes the literal 1290 days in verse 11. In other words, a literal 45 days (1 month and some days) extension periord was added to the literal 1290 days by the angel to bring the number of the days to the literal 1335 days in verse 12. (1290 + 45 =1335). Like i said earlier on, these numbers were separated to provide a better understanding as to whom it involves and its time of occurrence.

The 45 days that was added to 1290 days to produced 1335 days (in 164 B. C.) marked the death of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, (the king who set up the "Awful Horror" or "Abomination of Desolation" in 167 B. C.) In other words, the angel wanted the Israelites to understand that for them to be completely free and blessed in respect of that judgement (Antiochus yoke), the evil Antiochus Epiphanes had to be taken away (death) forever and that was why the 45 days came to played with the 1290 days.

So, the 45 days which was added to the 1290 days was the one month and some days periord in which Antiochus died and this 45 days periord began from the end of the 1290 days periord (the day the Temple was rededicated) in 164 B.C. (1 Maccabees 6:16)

I hope this informations will make sense and also help us all decide or understand the other prohesies. Thanks and God bless you all. ​

Dispensations ~~IMO, it is the truth.

IMO, this may be worth looking into. I could be wrong, but it is at least worth a look?

Satan is a master counterfeiter of Gods word. God has faith alone in Christ alone, satan has religion for salvation. God has Apostles, satan has false apostles. God has true workers,satan has deceitful workers.

He counterfeits everything God does. God Is light, satan disguises as light.

After the tribulation comes the millennium reign. satan gets tossed in the pit. He doesn't want this to happen and in his arrogance he thinks he can thwart Gods plan.

I believe you are placing yourself in satans counterfeit millennium kingdom. the Goal? to clean up this world and make it good enough so Christ will not have to come back and do it.( All in his arrogance, but he doesn't want to go in the pit and he has the arrogance to believe that he can thwart Gods plan.)

We see some forms of this in covenant theology........clean this world up so Christ will come back. They have been duped into satans counterfeit millennium kingdom. Satan wants this world cleaned up, so Christ won't come back and throw him in the pit.

Satan wants to be like the most high, and he is arrogant enough to believe he can do it. His goal is to clean up this world and make it good, so Christ doesn't have to come back and throw him in the pit.

So satan has a lot of believers duped into thinking they need to clean up this world and make it good and presentable for the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[dcontroversal]

Actually, your math doesn't add up in light of the need for "Messiah to be cut off ... " -- Jesus' crucifixion -- before you can actually start looking for the 70th week, which hasn't yet arrived. It won't, either, until the time of the Gentiles has been fulfilled. That's the church age, which is obviously still in full swing -- for now.

Not to mention that it states clearly "at the time of the end"

 

[biblicaltruth15]

Yes. Have you? That's the real question here. You set yourself up by using the phrases and attitude you display as "knowing" something we "haven't considered." Perhaps it is you who have been guided by the thoughts of men into thinking it means other than what it says and have not actually taken the time to figure it out for yourself? Just a thought ...

That's an absurd set of questions in light of the fact that none of that is taught in Dispensationalist teaching of the Scriptures. Where do you find in anyone's exegesis of Daniel, or the Revelation, or any of the Gospels for that matter, the nonsense you attempt to attribute to those who believe in a real seven-year reign of terror by the devil's chosen, followed by Christ's return not to again be sacrificed but to judge the world? There is nothing in any of the end-times teaching on a future Tribulation that would even remotely equate to such nonsense as that we expect Him to be "sacrificed" again. Pure drivel.

This is a woefully poor and miserable analysis, probably deliberately twisted and obfuscated, of Dispensationalist end-time teaching. You should be ashamed, trying to pass such a misrepresentation off as being a synopsis of what we have taught.

It's ok, you guys are all correct! But remember........"what an old man can see while sitting down............even from the highest point, a child will not see". That's all i can say concerning these comments. May God bless each an everyone. Thanks!

 

[biblicaltruth15]

Not to mention that it states clearly "at the time of the end"

According to your understanding, which periord does this phrase, "at the time of the end" referred to?

 

[MarcR]

Like you said, of course there is suppose to be a second "END TIME" fulfillment but have you really meditated on the words of the bible to see if it has been also FUFILLED? Friends, have we trully considered the following verses: Matthew 10:23; 16:28; 24:30 and 24:30(and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven). Have we all meditated on that phrase? Does it really meant that the Lord`s coming will be in the mortal flesh for a second time? Since it is the nature of a mortal man to die, when He comes physically as many are expecting, so do we expect him to die again as way of another sacrifice?

Please friends, we shouldn`t become the Jews of our time. I mean, we should be very careful not to make almost the same mistake the Jewish people made in recognizing the Lamb`s first presence. Thanks all!

I see no historical evidence of a thousand year reign of Jesus having ever happened; so I am persuaded that that reign and the end time troubles which must precede it are still future.

 

[dcontroversal]

According to your understanding, which periord does this phrase, "at the time of the end" referred to?

See post number 17.....it sums up the truth and what is evident by the scriptures!

 

[biblicaltruth15]

Yes. Have you? That's the real question here. You set yourself up by using the phrases and attitude you display as "knowing" something we "haven't considered." Perhaps it is you who have been guided by the thoughts of men into thinking it means other than what it says and have not actually taken the time to figure it out for yourself? Just a thought ...

That's an absurd set of questions in light of the fact that none of that is taught in Dispensationalist teaching of the Scriptures. Where do you find in anyone's exegesis of Daniel, or the Revelation, or any of the Gospels for that matter, the nonsense you attempt to attribute to those who believe in a real seven-year reign of terror by the devil's chosen, followed by Christ's return not to again be sacrificed but to judge the world? There is nothing in any of the end-times teaching on a future Tribulation that would even remotely equate to such nonsense as that we expect Him to be "sacrificed" again. Pure drivel.

This is a woefully poor and miserable analysis, probably deliberately twisted and obfuscated, of Dispensationalist end-time teaching. You should be ashamed, trying to pass such a misrepresentation off as being a synopsis of what we have taught.

But wait!! Are you truly a Christian?? Well, definitely i dont think so cuz you are the one who should be ashamed for insulting your AGE!!! I mean you really surprised me and i am honestly disappointed by your nasty words and barbaric way of responding to an issue. From your point of views, you dont even seem to have a single idea concerning this prophesies. You very much seem the Pharisee of the twenty-first century. (sure you understood quite well what i meant with that).

You as a novice on this matter, i adviced you come out of that ignorance state!! The earlier you start accepting that true knowledge and understanding concerning the things of God does not depend on ones AGE nor POSITION, the better for you. You can never stop or discourage me from revealing the truth cuz that is the reason why i came into this world. And for the fact that you were not able to see it doesn`t mean that someone else is blaspheming. You should grow up and address conversations like a matured person, ok.(Jeremiah 1:8) May God forgive you.

 

[biblicaltruth15]

Actually, your math doesn't add up in light of the need for "Messiah to be cut off ... " -- Jesus' crucifixion -- before you can actually start looking for the 70th week, which hasn't yet arrived. It won't, either, until the time of the Gentiles has been fulfilled. That's the church age, which is obviously still in full swing -- for now.

Are you kidding me! Honestly i can`t believe it. What 70 weeks are you talking about? Now i will present you a summary of this prophesy, "Seventy Weeks". The 70 weeks prophesy is what i would called, "Three in One" as three divine visions concerning the Israelites, were super intelligently coded in one awesome picture. This prophesy was divided into three groups but with several major world historical events to guide us unto its fulfillment which climaxed in the early Hasmonean era. Since you know so much, now you tell me. Why was the "70 weeks" divided if the whole "70", points toward the Lamb`s time in this our common era like you`ve already understood? Why the angel never just say, "69 weeks" in Chapter 9:25 or even just added the 1 week in verse 27 and say........70 weeks? Sure you are familiar with the phrase, "killing two birds with one stone".
That was the act applied in this vision to Daniel by God through the angel. Notice the "70" was divided into three groups. (1) 7 weeks, (2) 62 weeks and (3) 1 week. Does that ring a bell? Anyway........lets continue!

70 WEEKS: This represented 70 years but within these years, there were three cutoff periord, (something i like to call, intervals periord) from the going forth of the command by Cyrus to rebuild the Temple and the City. (Isaiah 44:28; Isaiah 45:13)

7 WEEKS: This is the 7 years in which the works of the second Temple was completed (sixth century B.C.) and this represented the entire periord from the "Cyrus decree" unto the second face of the prophesy, when Nehemiah was granted the permission by Artaxerxes I, to recommenced the rebuilding work. (fifth century B.C.)

62 WEEKS: This is 62 years stretching from when Artaxerxes I, gave the permission to again enabled reconstruction work since it was only the Temple that had been rebuilt. (Nehemiah 2:1-6) This periord extended unto the time of the prophesied "messiah, the prince" in Daniel 9:25-26, who appeared in the fourth century B.C. (go search for the meaning of "messiah" and "prince" or an "anointed one", and you will understand that it does not only applies to Jesus Christ as you`ve been thinking all along).

"MESSIAH" or "PRINCE" or an "ANOINTED ONE": This was the Greek king they once called, "Alexander the great". He died (cut off) in the fourth century B.C. Verse 26 also says this anointed one shall be cut off with nothing for himself which meant that he was to died without having nothing. And all these happened when Alexander before death, shared away his kingdom unto men who were not from his blood line, even though he had a son. One out of these men even executed his (Alexander) son and wife in order to make sure he had no blood line successor. (you should also understand it here that even the "GENTILES" are called, "ANOINTED" as long as that identity executes God`s judgement. (Isaiah 45:1-4; Daniel 8:21)

1 WEEK: This is 1 year inside the 1335 days in Daniel 12:12 which i explained above in thread #1. It is the periord beginning from when Antiochus sent his chief collector of tribute unto Israel (167 B.C.), up till the beginning of Judas assuming leadership and began breaking free the Israelites from the evil covenant with Antiochus. (166 B.C.) It was in this periord that the daily sacrifices were stopped and replaced with every sort of abomination. (to understand better, you should go study 1 Maccabees 1:29 up to 1 Maccabees 3:26)