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The Re-established Jewish Sanhedrin

From The Sanhedrin - en


This website is about the re-established Jewish Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin is the name given in the mishna to the council of seventy-one Jewish sages who constituted the supreme court and legislative body in Judea during the Roman period. It continued to function for more than four hundred years after the destruction of the Temple and there have been several orthodox attempts to re-establish it since that time. The current attempt to re-establish the Sanhedrin is generally referred to as the "nascent Sanhedrin", or the "developing Sanhedrin".

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Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah

The purpose of this court is to rule on the legal aspects of issues concerning Bnei Noah: biblical and internationally recognized principles as a basis for legal reciprocity in international law. Chief Justice: Rabbi Yoel Schwartz

Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah - The Sanhedrin - en
 

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The Noahide laws are comprised of seven universal laws biblically binding upon all humanity. They include prohibitions against idolatry, blasphemy, forbidden sexual relationships including adultery and incest, murder, theft, cruelty to animals and the failure to implement orderly processes of justice. In 1991, a joint resolution of the United States congress called its principles "the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization…” without which "the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos".

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice try.
any idea what's going on devo?

No idea where you are coming from, just come out and say it. If you think we believe any of what you have written, then you are seriously mistaken.

So they are waiting for their "messiah", since they rejected Jesus the true Messiah, and it is very obvious who will end up being "that messiah". Is this like pin the tail on the donkey? I cannot read minds.




 
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"The Messianic age is when the Jews will regain their independence and all return to the land of Israel. The Messiah will be a very great king, he will achieve great fame, and his reputation among the gentile nations will be even greater than that of King Solomon. His great righteousness and the wonders that he will bring about will cause all peoples to make peace with him and all lands to serve him.... Nothing will change in the Messianic age, however, except that Jews will regain their independence. Rich and poor, strong and weak, will still exist. However it will be very easy for people to make a living, and with very little effort they will be able to accomplish very much.... it will be a time when the number of wise men will increase...war shall not exist, and nation shall no longer lift up sword against nation.... The Messianic age will be highlighted by a community of the righteous and dominated by goodness and wisdom. It will be ruled by the Messiah, a righteous and honest king, outstanding in wisdom, and close to God. Do not think that the ways of the world or the laws of nature will change, this is not true. The world will continue as it is. The prophet Isaiah predicted "The wolf shall live with the sheep, the leopard shall lie down with the kid." This, however, is merely allegory, meaning that the Jews will live safely, even with the formerly wicked nations. All nations will return to the true religion [monotheism, although not necessarily Judaism] and will no longer steal or oppress. Note that all prophecies regarding the Messiah are allegorical - Only in the Messianic age will we know the meaning of each allegory and what it comes to teach us. Our sages and prophets did not long for the Messianic age in order that they might rule the world and dominate the gentiles....the only thing they wanted was to be free for Jews to involve themselves with the Torah and its wisdom."

- Maimonides (Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon), in his commentary to tractate Sanhedrin, of the Babylonian Talmud.

Friends, we should not be paying attention to such anti-christian sources as the Jewish Talmud, which slanders Christ and His Mother. According to Talmud, Christ is "in hell, being boiled in his own excrement". And it views the Virgin Mary as little more than a "hairdresser" or a "harlot". The Talmud and most of the Jews are very anti-Christ and misogynistic. They hate Arabs and non-Jews. Jews will be saved some day, but only the same way as Gentiles, by true faith in Christ.


 

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No idea where you are coming from, just come out and say it. If you think we believe any of what you have written, then you are seriously mistaken.

So they are waiting for their "messiah", since they rejected Jesus the true Messiah, and it is very obvious who will end up being "that messiah". Is this like pin the tail on the donkey? I cannot read minds.
pardon?
i'm busy right now devo.
 
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Jesus be our freedom from the Law.
 

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Jesus be our freedom from the Law.
AMEN

Galatians 1
No Other Gospel
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

10 For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servantb of Christ.
 

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The Seven Noahide Laws

To the Jewish people G-d gave the entire Torah [teaching] as their Law. They therefore have a special responsibility—with special commandments—to be the priesthood of the world, a "light unto the nations."

What about the rest of the world? What is G-d's will for them?


G-d gave Noah and all his descendants (B'nei Noach or "children of Noah") seven commandments to obey. These seven universal laws (known as the "Seven Noahide Laws") were reaffirmed with Moses and the Jewish people at Mt. Sinai in what is now known as the Oral Torah, establishing modern observance of these laws. These seven commandments (mitzvos), actually seven categories of hundreds of specific laws, are G-d's will for all non-Jews.


The Law is Only a Minimum


In contrast to the wicked Christian doctrine that the Law is too difficult to follow and that everyone falls short of the Law, the Bible (Hebrew Scriptures) clearly teaches that G-d's Law is the absolute minimum that He expects everyone to follow. The Law is merely the foundation for our spiritual service to G-d; we start by obeying every detail of the Law--which is not too difficult--and then we can begin building our spiritual "house" in this world, helping to bring the revelation of G-d's kingdom into the physical world.

In other words, the purpose of life is to serve G-d with everything we have. This starts by obeying His Law completely, and on that basis we are now able to harness our energies and opportunities every single day for His goals, not ours.

The Law contains two parallel (but separate) paths for the world: 613 commandments for the Jews, and 66 commandments (contained in the 7 Noachide Laws) for gentiles. Once a Noachide is committed to keeping the 66 mitzvos, he may (and really should) take on the responsibility for additional mitzvos, with certain clear exceptions: Non-Jews may not observe Shabbos (or holidays) in the manner of Jews (by avoiding the 39 categories of work), nor may non-Jews put on tefillin or tzitzis, put up a mezuzah, or be called up for a public Torah reading in a synagogue. There are other restrictions as well, including certain limitations on Torah study (depending partly on individual circumstances).

But many or most of the 613 mitzvos can be observed by Noachides for spiritual benefit. Indeed, some of these additional commandments are important (though technically not required) for gentiles to observe, while other commandments would also be a good idea.


How Do We Bring the Jews Home? Ask the Gentiles for Help


by Bryan J. Ellison

One of the 613 mitzvos commands all Jews to teach the gentile nations their Seven Noachide Laws (Sefer Hamitzvos, positive #3). This is a Torah obligation binding on all men and women over the age of bar or bas mitzvah, without which a Jew's service to Hashem is incomplete.

Obviously, the fulfillment of this mitzvah confers tremendous benefit on the non-Jews who listen and follow. But this is no distraction from a Jew's other efforts in carrying out Torah mitzvos; rather, it is an investment in the rest of Torah — and particularly in the work of bringing Jews back to Judaism. This truth is even more relevant at this moment, as we stand at the doorway to Redemption.

Speaking of the coming of Moshiach, the prophet Yeshaya revealed that the gentile nations will play a startlingly important role in the ingathering of the Jewish exiles: "Thus said Hashem G-d, 'Behold, I will raise My hand to the gentiles, and I will lift My banner to the peoples, and they bring your sons on their arms, and your daughters will be carried on their shoulders" (49:22).

How Do We Bring the Jews Home? Ask the Gentiles for Help
 

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UNITED NATIONS:

Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations Recommends ...
... Institute of Noahide Code—7 Laws for 70 Nations — a national organization in the
United States which encourages the practice of the Seven Laws of Noah ...
www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2010/ecosoc6424.doc.htm - 32k

GROUP HAS STATUS WITH ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL COUNCIL RECLASSIFIED AS ...
... Institute of Noahide Code – 7 Laws for 70 Nations, a national organization based
in the United States that follows the teachings of Lubavitcher Rabbi MM ...
www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/ecosoc6392.doc.htm - 22k

www.un.org/News/Press/docs

CTRL F search for noahide:

Institute of Noahide Code—7 Laws for 70 Nations — a national organization in the United States which encourages the practice of the Seven Laws of Noah, according to the teachings of Rabbi M. M. Schneerson — after Cuba asked about its position on defamation of religions and the endorsement of the Noahide laws by the United States Congress. Egypt asked about the NGO’s sustainability, relevance to the Economic and Social Council and whether it had considered seeking consultative status with UNESCO;
 

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APPENDIX ONE
105 STAT. 44 PUBLIC LAW 102-14-MAR. 20,1991

Public Law 102-14
102d Congress
Joint Resolution

Mar. 20. 1991
[H.J Res 104] To designate March 26. 1991, as "Education Day. U. S. A."

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our, great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without thes ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991:

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, "the rebbe", this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of "education and giving", the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws: and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state:

Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lutbavitch movement. is designated as "Education Day. U.S.A.". The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

PUBLIC LAW 102-14-MAR. 20,1991 105 STAT. 45

Approved March 20, 1991

LEGISLATIVE HISTORY-H.J Res 104
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. Vol 137. (1991)
Mar 5. considered and passed House
Mar 7. considered and passed Senate
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The Noahide Campaign

The Noahide Campaign refers to a campaign by Orthodox Jews of the Chabad movement to influence all non-Jews to follow the Noahide Laws. This was one of the Mitzvah campaigns of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of Chabad.
Aside from prescribing laws for Jews, the Torah contains a universal moral code directed to all non-Jews, known as the Noahide laws. Briefly, this code forbids non-Jews from murder, blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, robbery, tearing off flesh from a living animal and consuming it, and failing to set up courts of justice to enforce the above laws.

Noahide Campaign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"without these laws it is impossible for non-Jews to attain true ethical behavior"

"large group classes must be established to teach the Noahide laws in all their details"

"Jews must promote awareness of what he [Rabbi Shneerson] maintained to be their divinely appointed role to teach the Noahide Code until this role becomes world-famous"

"Jews must publicize amongst non-Jews the concept of God’s Absolute Unity as taught by Chasidic philosophy until it too becomes world-famous"

"creating Noahide communities of many thousands is an attainable goal"

"non-Jews themselves should be urged to actively spread the Noahide laws, such that the numbers of Noahides will multiply exponentially until the Noahide movement encompasses all mankind"
 

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Mark 7
Traditions and Commandments
1Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem, 2 they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. 3 (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they washa their hands, holding to the tradition of the elders, 4 and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash.b And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.c) 5 And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?” 6 And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,

“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
7 in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.”


Matthew 16:6
Jesus said to them, “Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”

Pharisees

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The Mishnah is an authoritative codification of Pharisaic law, ediced by Judah haNasi around 200 CE. Most of the authorities quoted in the Mishnah lived after the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE; it thus marks the beginning of the transition from Pharisaic to Rabbinic (i.e. modern normative) Judaism.

The sages of the Talmud see a direct link between themselves and the Pharisees, and historians generally consider Pharisaic Judaism to be the progenitor of Rabbinic Judaism, that is normative, mainstream Judaism after the destruction of the Second Temple. All maintream forms of Judaism today consider themselves heirs of Rabbinic Judaism and, ultimately, the Pharisees.

Pharisees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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The Israelites will not be involved in any future kingdom. The covenant has been broken by the Israelite. In Hosea 1:9 God stated they were not his people and he was not their God.

Commentary on Hosea 1:9

Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary

1:8-11 The rejection of Israel for a time, is signified by the name of another child: call him Lo-ammi, not my people. The Lord disowns all relation to them. We love him, because he first loved us; but our being cast out of covenant, is owing to ourselves and our folly.

Jesus pbuh short three year mission was to get Israel back on track with the covenant.

Jesus pbuh stated in Matthew 15:24 he was only sent to the house of Israel. As he also stated in Matt 5:17-19 he was not there to change any laws so start learning and teaching the laws he tells those around him.

Jesus pbuh was there to set up a new covenant with the house of Israel with the laws of the Torah.

Unfortunately Jesus pbuh was rejected and the collapse of the temple a second time and the explusion of the Israelites from the promised land was the sign that the covenant was over with the house of Israel.

In the end God's everlasting covenant is with the true believers. At the moment there is no nation that acts as God wants and that is why there is no peace in Jerusalem. Peace in Jerusalem only existed when it was inhabited by those favored by God. No one deserves Jerusalem at this time.
 
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The Israelites will not be involved in any future kingdom. The covenant has been broken by the Israelite. In Hosea 1:9 God stated they were not his people and he was not their God.

Commentary on Hosea 1:9

Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary

1:8-11 The rejection of Israel for a time, is signified by the name of another child: call him Lo-ammi, not my people. The Lord disowns all relation to them. We love him, because he first loved us; but our being cast out of covenant, is owing to ourselves and our folly.

Jesus pbuh short three year mission was to get Israel back on track with the covenant.

Jesus pbuh stated in Matthew 15:24 he was only sent to the house of Israel. As he also stated in Matt 5:17-19 he was not there to change any laws so start learning and teaching the laws he tells those around him.

Jesus pbuh was there to set up a new covenant with the house of Israel with the laws of the Torah.

Unfortunately Jesus pbuh was rejected and the collapse of the temple a second time and the explusion of the Israelites from the promised land was the sign that the covenant was over with the house of Israel.

In the end God's everlasting covenant is with the true believers. At the moment there is no nation that acts as God wants and that is why there is no peace in Jerusalem. Peace in Jerusalem only existed when it was inhabited by those favored by God. No one deserves Jerusalem at this time.
Dear PBUH, There will be both Jews and Arabs and other Gentiles in the Church. The Church is the Kingdom of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The Kingdom of God is here now in the Church. The Church will continue from Christ's inauguration of the Church on Pentecost of 30 AD until the Second Coming of Christ, and the Church will be in heaven for eternity after the Second Coming of Christ. It is just a question of which people will come into the Church of Christ to be saved.
The Church is the visible Body of Christ. Composed of both Jews (old Israel) and Gentiles.
In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile. The wall of division between Jew and Gentile has been broken down in Christ. Thus, Jews and Arabs are brothers in Christ.
 
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Dear PBUH, There will be both Jews and Arabs and other Gentiles in the Church. The Church is the Kingdom of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The Kingdom of God is here now in the Church. The Church will continue from Christ's inauguration of the Church on Pentecost of 30 AD until the Second Coming of Christ, and the Church will be in heaven for eternity after the Second Coming of Christ. It is just a question of which people will come into the Church of Christ to be saved.
The Church is the visible Body of Christ. Composed of both Jews (old Israel) and Gentiles.
In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile. The wall of division between Jew and Gentile has been broken down in Christ. Thus, Jews and Arabs are brothers in Christ.
Good point Scott. In some ways we agree. The covenant is now with the true believers. You call it a church. Yes there is no nationality in the eyes of God only true or not true believers. Jewish people can be amongst those that are true believers but not if they follow Judaism. I was not clear on that.
 

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Dear PBUH, There will be both Jews and Arabs and other Gentiles in the Church. The Church is the Kingdom of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The Kingdom of God is here now in the Church. The Church will continue from Christ's inauguration of the Church on Pentecost of 30 AD until the Second Coming of Christ, and the Church will be in heaven for eternity after the Second Coming of Christ. It is just a question of which people will come into the Church of Christ to be saved.
The Church is the visible Body of Christ. Composed of both Jews (old Israel) and Gentiles.
In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile. The wall of division between Jew and Gentile has been broken down in Christ. Thus, Jews and Arabs are brothers in Christ.
this is so simple, i wonder why some refuse to accept it?
 
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Seven Laws of Noah

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח‎ Sheva mitzvot B'nei Noach) form the major part of the Noachide Laws, or Noahide Code.[1] This code is a set of moral imperatives that, according to the Talmud, were given by God[2] as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah" - that is, all of humankind.[3][4] According to Judaism, any non-Jew who lives according to these laws is regarded as a Righteous Gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come (Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.[5][6] Adherents are often called "B'nei Noach" (Children of Noah) or "Noahides" and may often network in Jewish synagogues.



The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are[7][8]
  1. Prohibition of Idolatry
  2. Prohibition of Murder
  3. Prohibition of Theft
  4. Prohibition of Sexual immorality
  5. Prohibition of Blasphemy
  6. Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
  7. Establishment of law courts


HI ZONE , I LIKE TO ASK YOU ONE HONEST QUESTION, ICAN SEE THAT YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS
PERSON, SPIRITUAL , BUT YOU ARE DEVOTING ALL YOUR ENERGY TO THESE BOOKS, WR. BY MEN.
IT HAS ALREADY LEAD YOU ASTRAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WRONG WITH THE BIBLE?
DO YOU REALY THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS INADEQUATE SPIRITUALY TO TEACH, THAT YOU HAVE TO
SEEK FOR MEN TO HELP OUT? IS GOD INSUFFICIENT? CAN YOU TELL ME ONE THING.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS COME IN THE FLESHAND CRUSIFIED??
WE ARE ALL SEEKING THE TRUTH ARNT WE

WAKEUP==
 

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HI ZONE , I LIKE TO ASK YOU ONE HONEST QUESTION, ICAN SEE THAT YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS
PERSON, SPIRITUAL , BUT YOU ARE DEVOTING ALL YOUR ENERGY TO THESE BOOKS, WR. BY MEN.
IT HAS ALREADY LEAD YOU ASTRAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WRONG WITH THE BIBLE?
DO YOU REALY THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS INADEQUATE SPIRITUALY TO TEACH, THAT YOU HAVE TO
SEEK FOR MEN TO HELP OUT? IS GOD INSUFFICIENT? CAN YOU TELL ME ONE THING.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS COME IN THE FLESHAND CRUSIFIED??
WE ARE ALL SEEKING THE TRUTH ARNT WE

WAKEUP==


why is it you can't see i'm showing you what ZIONISM is doing to everyone involved?

why can't you see i'm showing you what Judaism today really is?

why can't you see i'm trying to present you with evidence that all this pretending there are 2 covenants and a future kingdom that is in fact RISING (but has NOTHING to do with Jesus) is heading for disaster for everyone?

don't you know who Mystery Babylon THE GREAT TYRANT is?

hello?

if you understood this, you'd know EXACTLY what is going down in the Middle East today...all the "uprisings"...the manouvering....
 
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+226) To execute certain transgressors by the sword

Application to gentiles: Required

Mandated punishment for violation: From Heaven, at minimum

Brief description:
To execute by decapitation those who are convicted of committing certain sins. The procedure of decapitation is usually carried out by the sword.

This penalty is carried out by Jewish courts for particular sins,
whereas it is the only method of capital punishment carried out by gentile theocratic courts, regardless of the crime under the Noahide Laws.

Category: Justice Commandments
Biblical source(s) (Rambam): Ex. 21:20
Biblical source (Sefer HaChinuch): Ex. 21:20
Number in Sefer HaChinuch: 50

Hacidic University
 

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The Obligation of Jews to Seek Observance of Noachide Laws by Gentiles: A Theoretical Review



by Rabbi Michael J. Broyde

ABSTRACT



This paper addresses the scope of Jewish law's mandate upon Jews to enforce the Seven Noachide commandments, as well as any other rules Jewish law mandates that Gentiles should keep. Part One of this article outlines what are the Noachide commandments, and their place in a halachic system. Part Two discusses the obligation of both Jews and Noachides under the rubric of the commandment called dinim (literally: "laws" or "justice"). Part Three reviews the various opinions on the obligation of Jews to enforce the Noachide commandments. Part Three will consider not only whether enforcement must be sought, but in situations where enforcement is not possible, whether Jewish law mandates Jews to seek to persuade Noachides to obey their commandments. It will also consider whether -- when such persuasion fails -- Jewish law, at the minimum, requires that one may not assist a Gentile in violating the Noachide commandments.

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