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[Everlasting-Grace]

My question is, how can a state called "Israel" be the Biblical Israel installed by God,
if God prophesied Israel was going to get ANOTHER NAME???

Isaiah 65:15 You shall leave your name to my chosen for a curse,
and the Lord God will put you to death,
but his servants he will call by another name,

ezekial 37. Romans 11 would be two good passages to look at

Is 65: 1
“I was sought by those who did not ask for Me;
I was found by those who did not seek Me.
I said, ‘Here I am, here I am,’
To a nation that was not called by My name.

This is the prophesy that Gentiles would come and be saved. in the interim.. Remember, Paul told us gentiles not to be puffed up (rom 11)

 

[AlpineGuy]

For the former troubles are forgotten, because they are hidden from My sight!

How does this cancel the former verse?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

How does this cancel the former verse?

because it was not about the Jews like you are twisting it to be.

 

[AlpineGuy]

jesus came as a Jew

Because he was a true Hebrew, unlike the impostor "Jews" of today.

being in the Middle East from Mesopotamia

From Mesopotamia??? LOL

he was probably very dark skinned too

You can't prove this. Well, unless you are referring to the "Jesus" of the Zionist anti-Christian BBC.

Google images of the modern day inhabitants of Israel, Lebanon, Syria etc, and tell me later.

 

[AlpineGuy]

because it was not about the Jews like you are twisting it to be.

Where does it say that?

 

[joecoten]

What I have stated is truth. What you do with it is up to you.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Because he was a true Hebrew, unlike the impostor "Jews" of today.

From Mesopotamia??? LOL

You can't prove this. Well, unless you are referring to the "Jesus" of the Zionist anti-Christian BBC.

Google images of the modern day inhabitants of Israel, Lebanon, Syria etc, and tell me later.

you think dark olive complexion is white skinned?
Revelation 1:14-15 offers a clue that Jesus's skin was a darker hue and that his hair was woolly in texture

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Mesopotamia is Semitic.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

What I have stated is truth. What you do with it is up to you.

i believe you are correct about his views on jews.

 

[AlpineGuy]

you think dark olive complexion is white skinned?
Revelation 1:14-15 offers a clue that Jesus's skin was a darker hue and that his hair was woolly in texture

This verse says:

Revelation 1:14-15 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters.

"Bronze glowing in a furnace" would be a light shade of yellow / orange. And some versions like the KJV state both his hair and head were white like wool. So, either way, this is nothing remotely close to "dark olive":

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bronze+furnace

And if you don't want to waste your time, don't waste mine. Images of super dark skinned Levantine people:

Spoiler

 

[AlpineGuy]

i said scattered until they don't exist. i see how you purposefully ignored that portion.

Scattered and unexistent are two different things.

i am saying modern day jews are partially descendants of Jacob. testing bloodline to differ between esau and jacob is foolishness when they have the same DNA.

I do not completely rule out the possibility that they may have a small quantity of bloodline from Jacob, but then it is possible that all of the world's peoples have some ancestry from Jacob, as it is very difficult if not impossible to trace where the full lineage of Jacob went. And not the entire world would be Israel.

So, I check various Bible verses that could hint the answer to some of these doubts. And having seen several of them, it is minimum a possibility that the Jews of our days, for the most part do not descend from the twelve tribes, and that the modern state of Israel is not the Israel of the Bible.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

This verse says:

Revelation 1:14-15 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters.

"Bronze glowing in a furnace" would be a light shade of yellow / orange. And some versions like the KJV state both his hair and head were white like wool. So, either way, this is nothing remotely close to "dark olive":

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bronze+furnace

And if you don't want to waste your time, don't waste mine. Images of super dark skinned Levantine people:

Spoiler

you spent time cherry picking which Revelation 1 you wanted.

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

i am in R&D and specialize in Metallurgy. fine brass ((as burned)) in a fire is very dark. sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Scattered and unexistent are two different things.

I do not completely rule out the possibility that they may have a small quantity of bloodline from Jacob, but then it is possible that all of the world's peoples have some ancestry from Jacob, as it is very difficult if not impossible to trace where the full lineage of Jacob went. And not the entire world would be Israel.

So, I check various Bible verses that could hint the answer to some of these doubts. And having seen several of them, it is minimum a possibility that the Jews of our days, for the most part do not descend from the twelve tribes, and that the modern state of Israel is not the Israel of the Bible.

most yiddish can literally trace their heritage back to how they escaped the destruction of jerusalem. there are 3 ancient mariner routes. the significance of that is if you research the routes, you will see names like sephardim, ashkenazi, and others. what's significant about these names are they changed adopted names based upon the route they escaped from to keep hidden from the Romans they thought were chasing them. so when you read sephardim, ashkenazi jews, that is the escape route. but never make the mistake like you have and continue to believe these are not the jews from Jacob's Lineage.

 

[AlpineGuy]

And, the hexagram called "Star of David" used by the modern Jewry and state of Israel is another point to consider. I have read that the hexagram is not related to David at all, and is originated from pagan Baalite worship. This one doesn't need words to explain:

 

[AlpineGuy]

you spent time cherry picking which Revelation 1 you wanted.

And you did the same.

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Sooo what about his head, "white like wool" and "white as snow"???

fine brass ((as burned))

This depends on translation.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

And, the hexagram called "Star of David" used by the modern Jewry and state of Israel is another point to consider. I have read that the hexagram is not related to David at all, and is originated from pagan Baalite worship. This one doesn't need words to explain:

your imagination is stretching the realms of normal here.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

And you did the same.

Sooo what about his head???

This depends on translation.

kjv is hardly looking for a cherry picked version since everyone is familiar with the kjv. nice try.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

his head white as wool?

what kind of people have wooly looking hair? jews!

 

[AlpineGuy]

your imagination is stretching the realms of normal here.

Mark 8:18 Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?

 

[AlpineGuy]

his head white as wool?

what kind of people have wooly looking hair? jews!

You are confusing head with hair. Read the verse again.