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kennethcadwell

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Here's the link to to the story about the hoax. "Skeleton of Giant" Is Internet Photo Hoax

In the article the creator of the doctored image explains how he made the image. He took 2nd prize in a photo effects contest. Below is the link to the contest page. He was not part of the hoax.

Archaeological Anomalies 2 - Worth1000 Contests

The creator of the image, IronKite, made the following remarks:

"I laugh myself silly when some guy claims to know someone who was there, or even goes so far as to claim that he or she was there when they found the skeleton and took the picture."

"Sometimes people seem so desperate to believe in something that they lie to themselves, or exaggerate in order to make their own argument stronger."
Yes I already read that article, and national geographic posted it to.

And one of the things the guy said who made this picture was that anybody who wrote or drew pictures of what they seen they were confiscated.

Plus, you also say why would they cover it up because most of them are Christians who make these finds.

It is not them that does it, it is the government that threatens them to stay quiet.
If you do not believe this, look at the supposed UFO files the government kept silent from the public for years tell they were finally forced to release them. Which there is still some contention out there that they still have not released the full truth.

Then you can also boil it down to control issues. If they release stuff that would totally prove one side to be true over another, then they could not use this power to control their wars and other issues which they use belief systems to forward their agenda.

Like I said the last pic was a fake, and I know this. I have yet to find anything on the other pics I posted though rather true or false. I am still researching though.

However, I do believe the Nephilim existed and were around between 7 feet to 12 feet tall.

There has been multiple skeletal remains found around the world, including in groups ranging in this height range.
Wisconsin is one of those such cases.

I also posted how the cubic is, and has been of different lengths through out the years and cultures.
 
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Kenneth, I was just noticing that the shadows cast by the pelvic bone and the whole skeleton are angled differently than the shadow cast by the person in the centre photo. This one has been doctored as well. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and stories of conspiracies and government coverup wear a little thin after a while.
 
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The reason Goliath's height has been changed in text from 4, 5, to 6 cubits is because scholars could not agree on his height.

The reason for this is because a cubit is not an exact measurement. It's measurement is used from taking the length of ones arm from their elbow to the tip of the middle finger. Because of the different heights and lengths of people, depending on what person or society their cubic measurement came from made up for different measurements.

Fact: cubic measurements in/of Egypt, Israel, and other cultures were different lengths.

Most scholars have determined that the Jews through out history used a measurement of between 20.6 in. to about 25 in.

Now if you take these measurements into account that would put Goliath anywhere between 6'9" to 12'5" tall.

The issue of course comes from the different cubic measurements through out time, so even at the smallest cubic of 4 he would still be a person of tall nature.

20.6 x 4 = 82.4 / 12 = 6. 866666.. ( 6.9 )

25 x 4 = 100 / 12 = 8.33333..

Just between these two would make him between almost 7 feet to 8 1/2 feet tall.
This doesn't help. There is one Goliath story but three different heights recorded for him in the same account from earlier and later versions of the text. That means copyists have been altering Goliath's size. He didn't get smaller in the more recent accounts, he only grew in stature. Everyone accepts that the cubit measure is unreliable, but Goliath was not remeasured by anyone, he simply grew in the retelling. That's the point. Copyists increased Goliath's recorded size in the more recent versions of the text.
 
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kennethcadwell

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For those who have the science channel, Tuesday night they are going to run a special on a show called, " The unexplained files. "

On this show they will be showing a humanoid skeleton they found that is over 9 feet tall.
 
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Genesis 6:4 says there were gaints on the Earth. If we remember that gaints are in the Bible from Genesis to David and Goliath, it makes you wonder (How did they survive the flood). Was one of Noah's sons a gaint? That would help with building the ark! Because gaints were on the Earth from Genesis until they were all killed (which is mentioned somewhere in the Kings or Chronicles area) when what does it make possible?
Angels are spirits, and the fallen angels took human form and mated with the "sons of men. They are called "sons of God in Genesis 6:2. Their offspring became giants. (nephilim in Hebrew) If they could do that before the flood they could certainly do it after the flood. Remember that the law entered because of transgression and God said He would never again destroy the earth with a flood. Nevertheless, there had to be some regulations before the flood because Noah knew what animals were clean and what animals weren't.
 
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I've got some ocean front property in Iowa for sale to people like you...
I like IOWA especially up around WEST UNION...come up there quite a few years and trap coons and make about $10,000 in 5 days....got any property on the Turkey River?
 
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NO giants in the Hebrew.

Try again...
Do you see the word GIANT in the 4 listed in bold below? MAYBE learn how to read ENGLISH before you butcher the HEBREW!

I guess it was metaphor when it is recorded...

THEY are as TALL AS THE CEDARS....
OG's BEDSTAND was like 12 foot long....
Goliath was like 9-10 feet tall
We are as GRASSHOPPERS in their sight...

How about just believe the words and verbage used to describe their actual SIZE instead of spiritualizing it away to context which can BE INTERPRETED as GIANT MEN......

Go to Chicago and get lucky enough to see the SKELETONS of MEN that WERE GIANTS......WHICH are kept hidden from the public.....GOD FORBID something that is found to be shown if it gives credit to the bible....
 
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OnlyJesusSaves

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Look up some Tom Horn on youtube A 30 Year Pastor who now writes books and do videos on Nephilim and fallen angels others into this deeply are L.A. Marzulli Chris Puttnam & Steve Quayle
 
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OnlyJesusSaves

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Numbers 13-[SUP]16[/SUP] These are the names of the men which Moses sent to spy out the land. And Moses called Oshea the son of Nun Jehoshua.
[SUP]17[/SUP] And Moses sent them to spy out the land of Canaan, and said unto them, Get you up this way southward, and go up into the mountain:
[SUP]18[/SUP] And see the land, what it is; and the people that dwelleth therein, whether they be strong or weak, few or many;
[SUP]19[/SUP] And what the land is that they dwell in, whether it be good or bad; and what cities they be that they dwell in, whether in tents, or in strong holds;
[SUP]20[/SUP] And what the land is, whether it be fat or lean, whether there be wood therein, or not. And be ye of good courage, and bring of the fruit of the land. Now the time was the time of the firstripe grapes.
[SUP]21[/SUP] So they went up, and searched the land from the wilderness of Zin unto Rehob, as men come to Hamath.
[SUP]22[/SUP] And they ascended by the south, and came unto Hebron; where Ahiman, Sheshai, and Talmai, the children of Anak, were. (Now Hebron was built seven years before Zoan in Egypt.)
[SUP]23[/SUP] And they came unto the brook of Eshcol, and cut down from thence a branch with one cluster of grapes, and they bare it between two upon a staff; and they brought of the pomegranates, and of the figs.
[SUP]24[/SUP] The place was called the brook Eshcol, because of the cluster of grapes which the children of Israel cut down from thence.
[SUP]25[/SUP] And they returned from searching of the land after forty days.
[SUP]26[/SUP] And they went and came to Moses, and to Aaron, and to all the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the wilderness of Paran, to Kadesh; and brought back word unto them, and unto all the congregation, and shewed them the fruit of the land.
[SUP]27[/SUP] And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.
[SUP]28[/SUP] Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.
[SUP]29[/SUP] The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.
[SUP]30[/SUP] And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
[SUP]31[/SUP] But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.
[SUP]32[/SUP] And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.
[SUP]33[/SUP] And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
 
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1 Samuel 9

9 Now there was a man of Benjamin, whose name was Kish, the son of Abiel, the son of Zeror, the son of Bechorath, the son of Aphiah, a Benjamite, a mighty man of power.


2 And he had a son, whose name was Saul, a choice young man, and a goodly: and there was not among the children of Israel a goodlier person than he: from his shoulders and upward he was higher than any of the people.

Most of you believe there were these huge giants in the world, there wasn't. We have to use common since. So either Saul was the most awkward looking man ever in the world, approaching giraffe proportions, or this means he was taller by his stature and intelligence.

Traditions and TV Hollywood will lead you astray. Religion like everything else is pyramid structured. Those at the very top like the Pope and his bishops know this. That is because men like him are the "giants" you seek. Those with stature, fame and intelligence.
 
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Kaycie

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Goliath was a short giant compared to other giants of the bible...

Deuteronomy 3:11 "
(Og king of Bashan was the last of the Rephaites. His bed was decorated with iron and was more than nine cubits long and four cubits wide."

Numbers 13:33 "We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."


 
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Genesis 6:4 says there were gaints on the Earth. If we remember that gaints are in the Bible from Genesis to David and Goliath, it makes you wonder (How did they survive the flood). Was one of Noah's sons a gaint? That would help with building the ark! Because gaints were on the Earth from Genesis until they were all killed (which is mentioned somewhere in the Kings or Chronicles area) when what does it make possible?
What makes you think they survived the flood? They didn't...But that did not put an end to Satans plans..He simply started again.
 

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What makes you think they survived the flood? They didn't...But that did not put an end to Satans plans..He simply started again.
Nephilim are mentioned following the flood, for instance, Numbers 13:33.
 
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Did you know? When Israel took Caanan there were thirty tribes of giants living in that area..Including Caanan.
There are 36 of Tribes of Giants mentioned in the Bible:

  1. Amalekites
  2. Amorites
  3. Anakims
  4. Ashdothites
  5. Aviums
  6. Avites
  7. Canaanites
  8. Caphtorims
  9. Ekronites
  10. Emins
  11. Emins
  12. Eshkalonites
  13. Gazathites
  14. Geshurites
  15. Gibeonites
  16. Giblites
  17. Girgashites
  18. Gittites
  19. Hittites
  20. Hivites
  21. Horims
  22. Horites
  23. Jebusites
  24. Kadmonites
  25. Kenites
  26. Kenizzites
  27. Maachathites
  28. Manassites
  29. Nephilim *
  30. Perizzites
  31. Philistines
  32. Rephaims
  33. Sidonians
  34. Zamzummins
  35. Zebusites
  36. Zuzims
* The Nephilim:
The word Nephilim does not appear in the Bible, nor any Hebrew pronunciation of any words translated in the Bible. But the word Nĕphiyl, pronounced Nepheel does in the first mention of Giants in Genesis6:4, and in Numbers 13:33 when describing the Giants of the promised land, Cannan. These giants were apparently the original giants spawned by the Gregori, the giant angels who mated with human females.
There are also 22 individual Giants mentioned, by name, in the Bible:


  1. Adonizedec – King of Jerusalem
  2. Agag – King of the Amalakites
  3. Ahiman
  4. Amalek
  5. Arba
  6. Beelesath
  7. Gog and Magog
  8. Gogmagog
  9. Goliath
  10. Hoham – King of Hebron
  11. Horam – King of Gezer
  12. Jabin – King of Hazor
  13. Jobab – King of Madon
  14. Lahmi
  15. Nimrod
  16. Og of Bashan
  17. Ogias – Og’s father
  18. Perizzites
  19. Sheshai
  20. Sihon – King of the Amorites
  21. Sippai
  22. Talmai
 
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pckts

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I'm very bitter and disturbed about the fact that God gave angels angels sex drives for humans and the ability to reproduce with them. Why? I don't question God about much anymore, but this has bothered me as long as I've been a believer.
 
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I'm very bitter and disturbed about the fact that God gave angels angels sex drives for humans and the ability to reproduce with them. Why? I don't question God about much anymore, but this has bothered me as long as I've been a believer.
God did not make the angels to do anything but serve...Lucifer was very beautiful...He invented pride, pride invented rebellion, rebellion developed and corrupted something beautiful and made it totally ugly...Lucifer's one goal was to take God's throne and rule everything...When he was kicked out of heaven, his plans did not change. He corrupted Adam, God promised a savior. Lucifer, now called Satan, began to corrupt all of mankind in a bid to stop the coming savior...He lost because when he, Satan had corrupted all of mankind, and most of animal kind, God sent a flood and saved the eight humas left on the planet.. God was working on YOUR behalf right from the beginning...Please don't malign God because you can't see His plan for you.