Galatian Conundrums

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,665
13,127
113
You mean you believe that Peter already knew in acts 2 that the law of Moses was no longer required for the Jews?
how does the law say sin is forgiven?
does Peter say, "
bring a spotless goat, bull or lamb to the priests for a burnt offering" ?
no;

Peter replied,
“Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins!"
(Acts 2:38)

 
Jan 12, 2019
7,497
1,399
113
how does the law say sin is forgiven?
does Peter say, "
bring a spotless goat, bull or lamb to the priests for a burnt offering" ?
no;

Peter replied,
“Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins!"
(Acts 2:38)

Acts 10:14 made it clear that for Peter, he considers himself still under the law of Moses.

Furthermore, Burnt offerings in the temple has never cease thru the entire acts period
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,665
13,127
113
Acts 10:14 made it clear that for Peter, he considers himself still under the law of Moses.

Furthermore, Burnt offerings in the temple has never cease thru the entire acts period
does no one do anything in the law unless they are under it?

so you believe the disciples were all regularly making blood sacrifices in the temple for cleansing and for forgiveness of sin and trespass, until Paul was converted? that the first few decades of Christians all practiced the rituals prescribed through Moses in order to have sin forgiven, completely oblivious to the purpose of the cross until Acts 15 or so? that this is what was taught all over Judea as "the Way" revealed by the Messiah?
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,665
13,127
113
See that you don't tell anyone.
But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift Moses commanded,
as a testimony to them.

(Matthew 8:4)
 
Jan 12, 2019
7,497
1,399
113
does no one do anything in the law unless they are under it?

so you believe the disciples were all regularly making blood sacrifices in the temple for cleansing and for forgiveness of sin and trespass, until Paul was converted? that the first few decades of Christians all practiced the rituals prescribed through Moses in order to have sin forgiven, completely oblivious to the purpose of the cross until Acts 15 or so? that this is what was taught all over Judea as "the Way" revealed by the Messiah?
The resurrected Jesus told them in the Matthew great commission that everything he had taught them was to be obeyed. He did not tell them anything about the law of Moses being nailed to the cross.

And in acts 4:32, they were already obeying what Jesus told them to sell all they have and give to the common pool.

If they could do that difficult task, mark 10:28, how difficult do you think it was for them to keep the temple sacrifice?
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,665
13,127
113
The resurrected Jesus told them in the Matthew great commission that everything he had taught them was to be obeyed. He did not tell them anything about the law of Moses being nailed to the cross.

And in acts 4:32, they were already obeying what Jesus told them to sell all they have and give to the common pool.

If they could do that difficult task, mark 10:28, how difficult do you think it was for them to keep the temple sacrifice?
do you believe all the Christians in Judea were depending on the blood of goats and bulls for forgiveness of sin, and that this is the message they were preaching, up until the apostles first heard the true gospel from Paul?
 
Jan 12, 2019
7,497
1,399
113
do you believe all the Christians in Judea were depending on the blood of goats and bulls for forgiveness of sin, and that this is the message they were preaching, up until the apostles first heard the true gospel from Paul?
The usual refrain "What does scripture says?"

Even in Acts 21, we still see James and the elders telling Paul to use money to sponsor the shaving of head ceremony, in order to show that as a Jew, he is still following the Law.

Acts 15 is a distraction. As I have said elsewhere, James only decided that Gentiles who believed will be exempted from the Law of Moses. The Jewish believers must continue in the Law of Moses even after the Council, and a reading of Acts 21 showed that the Jews who believed were still zealous for the Law. (Acts 21:20-25)

What saith the scripture?