Giving or receiving blood

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blue_ladybug

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A man's sperm and a woman's egg are involved in making a baby.. blood doesn't do it.. :rolleyes:
 
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If the anti-Christ offered you a pill containing satanic DNA and said it would prolong your life, would you take it?

Keep in mind; 100% of doctors would agree that it's scientifically proven.

Answer honestly.
The mark will most likely be a chip. The chips some people have implanted actually change dna now.
 
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If all blood is the same, why does a certain group have sickle cell blood?

Before transfusions, Christians would pray and either live or die according to God's will. I feel like people at that time were more faithful.
Before antibiotics too. Have you or any of your loved ones ever taken any ?
 
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If the anti-Christ offered you a pill containing satanic DNA and said it would prolong your life, would you take it?

Keep in mind; 100% of doctors would agree that it's scientifically proven.

Answer honestly.
Non sequitur. Why would he who seeks to kill and destroy offer to prolong your life ? In other words, your argument lacks cohesion, logic and reason.
 

Zen

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Before antibiotics too. Have you or any of your loved ones ever taken any ?
Anti-biotics kill beneficial bacteria that God put inside us and anti-biotics eventually become ineffective.

By Debora MacKenzie

Incurable bacteria that resist nearly all antibiotics are continuing to spread worldwide. The US Centre for Disease Control and Prevention has reported that a woman who died in Nevada last August was infected with Klebsiella bacteria that was resistant to 26 different antibiotics – everything her hospital was able to throw at it.

We don’t know how many totally antibiotic-resistant infections there are now, says Mike Sharland, at St George’s, University of London. A World Health Organisation tracking project has only just got started. But according to the CDC, at least 90 per cent of multi-resistant infections in the US can still be killed by at least one antibiotic of last resort.
Once again, faith and the grace of God allow sickness to be healed, where as the devices of man fail.

Non sequitur. Why would he who seeks to kill and destroy offer to prolong your life ? In other words, your argument lacks cohesion, logic and reason.
 

Magenta

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Non sequitur. Why would he who seeks to kill and destroy offer to prolong your life ? In other words, your argument lacks cohesion, logic and reason.
What, really??? It is basically the same thing Satan said to Eve that deceived her...
 

Zen

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Why would he who seeks to kill and destroy offer to prolong your life ?
Genesis 3:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Genesis 5:5
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Revelation 13:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Proverbs 1:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
[SUP]22 [/SUP]How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
[SUP]26 [/SUP]I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
[SUP]27 [/SUP]When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord:
[SUP]30 [/SUP]They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

Why would he who seeks to kill and destroy offer to prolong your life ?
 
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Non sequitur. Why would he who seeks to kill and destroy offer to prolong your life ? In other words, your argument lacks cohesion, logic and reason.
What, really??? It is basically the same thing Satan said to Eve that deceived her...
Exactly .. and he was lying to her, wasn't he ? Was it Satan's intention to actually extend her life ... or to destroy it ? Mt statement stands.
 

PennEd

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Anti-biotics kill beneficial bacteria that God put inside us and anti-biotics eventually become ineffective.



Once again, faith and the grace of God allow sickness to be healed, where as the devices of man fail.



I'm not sure how you thought my 1st post meant that I thought drinking blood was ok. But whatever.

You did not answer my question. What if YOU stored up YOUR blood in a bloodbank in preparation for a planned surgery?


The point about anti-biotics just underscores the absurdity of this issue. First it's no transfusions, then it's no anti-biotics, next what will it be? Aspirin? X-rays? bandages? ... See how silly this is?
 
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It's really interesting how so many of you stand against transfusions of blood when the bible doesn't even talk about that.

Are you writing the Word now?
 
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The life is in the blood...That's why transfusions work. And guess who's idea transfusions were. Gods. No scripture for that but transfusions are good. And all good things come from above. If it gives or restores life it's good. James 1:17
God the essence of all spirit life.... is not worshipped by human hands as a will. He does not heal by human hands.

The spirit of life that dwells in the flesh is in the blood, but spirit life is not because of the blood.Blood has no breath of life

Blood transfusion like any other medication can help heal a person who has life. Medications of its self have no spirit life to offer. The person in who receives it must have essence of spirit life given by the Holy Spirit. He must be alive. There is no medication that can cause spirit life or keep it


Blood transfusions to those who have not spirit are useless. It would be like giving a dead person an aspirin and saying; call me in the morning. The Spirit of God is not passed down by the parents. Children are gift of the Lord. Just as in our new born again life man can plant the corrupted seed but God must breath into the spirit of life His Spirit as the spiritual seed of Christ it causes the growth .Take away the spirit men die.

The key I believe is searching for what it means to eat blood seeing it must be a metaphor used in parables. We eat and drink of the spirit. No spirit no eating or drinking

A body cannot work to receive healing if there is no spirit to begin with. Just as the faith of Christ that works in us must have life, the life of Christ


Jam 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I do not get people, Is God going to punish you for taking things to save your life?

lets see, He said David sinning and taking the showbread was ok, He even had the disciples break the sabbath (letter) so they could be strengthened with food. He healed on the sabbath,

I think Jesus shows that life is the most important part.

Granted they did not sin, They are just proofs that some things are more important..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I'm not sure how you thought my 1st post meant that I thought drinking blood was ok. But whatever.

You did not answer my question. What if YOU stored up YOUR blood in a bloodbank in preparation for a planned surgery?


The point about anti-biotics just underscores the absurdity of this issue. First it's no transfusions, then it's no anti-biotics, next what will it be? Aspirin? X-rays? bandages? ... See how silly this is?

It makes you wonder, Do they really think God looks at them and smiles. and says wow, i have a special place fo you in heaven, All people who had faith, many of whome became martyres for your faith, COme over here, You have the upper area of heaven,

All you who did not,,, you stay here, we will show you how great your heaven is, just not as good as those who did not listen to the doctors (by the way God allowed those doctors, and allowed the knowledge of medicine, so peoples lives could be saved.) but thats beside the point.
 

Magenta

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Exactly .. and he was lying to her, wasn't he ? Was it Satan's intention to actually extend her life ... or to destroy it ? Mt statement stands.
No, it does not stand, because Satan is liar, so people offering you something does not equate to people automatically being able to deliver that something, just as Satan could not extend the life of A&E into eternity so they could be like God in His immortality. Therefore saying the original poster's statement made no sense makes no sense! The doctors are playing god just as Satan does, and that was the point. Satan being a liar and doctors being deceived only ADDS to that point.
 

Zen

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You did not answer my question. What if YOU stored up YOUR blood in a bloodbank in preparation for a planned surgery?
I believe I wouldn't need surgery, and by storing up blood I'd just be proving to God that I didn't trust Him.

The point about anti-biotics just underscores the absurdity of this issue. First it's no transfusions, then it's no anti-biotics, next what will it be? Aspirin? X-rays? bandages? ... See how silly this is?
It's not absurd. God doesn't forbid medicine (including asprin), He forbids consuming blood (animal blood), let alone having someone you don't know give you their own.

Antibiotics kill beneficial bacteria too. If you choose to use them you should be aware of the collateral damage.

"On the 3453453598th day God led <insert Christian> to the hospital to receive the blood of a sodomite containing sickle cells because his doctor recommended a minor surgery" -- nope.

I notice that none of the people defending them can provide scripture other than the existence of doctors.

If a scientist comes up with a mark of the beast, is it moral or right to take it? Scientists exist so they must come from God, right?

This issue is about not recognizing the fact that the world is against God, that there is a conspiracy against truth, and most Christians don't realize that just because something exists, it doesn't mean that God approves it or gave the idea to us.

It's really interesting how so many of you stand against transfusions of blood when the bible doesn't even talk about that.

Are you writing the Word now?
I'm going off scripture, the importance of blood and that it contains life force.

What about this?

 
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wwjd_kilden

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Magenta, is your mistrust only about blood or do you think all doctors are evil? If you break a leg, will you let it heal on its own in the fear the the doctors have evil plans for you?
 
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No, it does not stand, because Satan is liar, so people offering you something does not equate to people automatically being able to deliver that something, just as Satan could not extend the life of A&E into eternity so they could be like God in His immortality. Therefore saying the original poster's statement made no sense makes no sense! The doctors are playing god just as Satan does, and that was the point. Satan being a liar and doctors being deceived only ADDS to that point.
Really ? Doctors that choose a career of medicine and healing are playing God ? One would have to accept this premise as truth for your point to be valid. I don't. That said, I'm really not interested in an exercise in semantics. No hard feelings.
 

Magenta

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Really ? Doctors that choose a career of medicine and healing are playing God ? One would have to accept this premise as truth for your point to be valid. I don't. That said, I'm really not interested in an exercise in semantics. No hard feelings.
Some of them do and if you deny it well there is not much anyone could say to convince you of the truth of that, though perhaps you could refer back to the DOCTOR who thought that it would be possible to attach one person's head to another person'a body to prolong life. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
 

Zen

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Is this from God?

"It's nice to know that if my 3 parents had listened to Zen I would never have been born"

Boohoo.