God wills your steps, knowing you are always saved

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John146

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So Christ didnt save all who God the Father wanted to be saved ? Is that what you saying ? You are implying Christ came short of the Fathers will to save all whom He wanted saved.
Christ‘s sacrifice provided the means by which all could be saved. Man must hear the word and believe.
 

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Do you sin? Is it God’s will that you sin? Please answer.
It has nothing to do with me. This is about Christ doing Gods will in saving all whom God wills to be saved. Now dont change the subject to me
 

brightfame52

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Christ‘s sacrifice provided the means by which all could be saved. Man must hear the word and believe.
So you are saying Christ didnt do the will of God to save who God wants saved. And thats why He came Lk 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

You said He failed
 

John146

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So you are saying Christ didnt do the will of God to save who God wants saved. And thats why He came Lk 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

You said He failed
Are all people lost? That which was lost? No mention of some “elect” group. Again, the RCC Calvin is a false teacher.
 

John146

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So you are saying Christ didnt do the will of God to save who God wants saved. And thats why He came Lk 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

You said He failed
Again, is it God’s will that you sin? Do you sin? Yet, you refuse to answer. That already tells me all I need to know.
 

brightfame52

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Are all people lost? That which was lost? No mention of some “elect” group. Again, the RCC Calvin is a false teacher.
Was Jesus successful in seeking and saving that which was Lost ? Yes or No
 

brightfame52

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Again, is it God’s will that you sin? Do you sin? Yet, you refuse to answer. That already tells me all I need to know.
This isnt about me. This is about was Jesus successful in saving those who God His Father willed to be saved. You blasphemously said NO. Now that conclusion hasn't nothing to do with me friend.

As far as I can see from your comments, you believe the will of others can and does trump Gods will.

The same word James writes here James 4:15

For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

You obviously believe mans will supersedes Gods will
 

John146

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Was Jesus successful in seeking and saving that which was Lost ? Yes or No
Yes! He died for those who were lost (that would be all men) and he saved those who were lost that would put their trust in him. Taking verses out of context is not good bible study. Calvinist must take verses out of their context in order to fit their man made theology.
 

John146

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This isnt about me. This is about was Jesus successful in saving those who God His Father willed to be saved. You blasphemously said NO. Now that conclusion hasn't nothing to do with me friend.

As far as I can see from your comments, you believe the will of others can and does trump Gods will.

The same word James writes here James 4:15

For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

You obviously believe mans will supersedes Gods will
Please answer my question: Do you sin? Is it God's will that you sin? Why are you afraid to answer? Would your answer violate your reformed theology?
 

brightfame52

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Yes! He died for those who were lost (that would be all men) and he saved those who were lost that would put their trust in him. Taking verses out of context is not good bible study. Calvinist must take verses out of their context in order to fit their man made theology.
To say yes means all whom Christ same to seek and to save which were lost as Per Luke 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. So you believe that 100% of the lost He sought, were saved ? Correct ?
 

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Please answer my question: Do you sin? Is it God's will that you sin? Why are you afraid to answer? Would your answer violate your reformed theology?
Its not about me. Its about Christ. You have publicly stated that Gods will isnt always done, which amounts to saying, the sinner mans will has reigned over the sovereign will of God, for God willed, purposed one thing and something different from His will and purpose came to pass. To me thats Blasphemy !
 

John146

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To say yes means all whom Christ same to seek and to save which were lost as Per Luke 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. So you believe that 100% of the lost He sought, were saved ? Correct ?
All day long the Lord tried to reach Israel, but they would not. Did he fail? Or did Israel reject him?

Romans 10:But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
 

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Its not about me. Its about Christ. You have publicly stated that Gods will isnt always done, which amounts to saying, the sinner mans will has reigned over the sovereign will of God, for God willed, purposed one thing and something different from His will and purpose came to pass. To me thats Blasphemy !
I guess you believe that God is the author of sin, and when you sin, you are carrying out the will of God for your life.
 

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All day long the Lord tried to reach Israel, but they would not. Did he fail? Or did Israel reject him?

Romans 10:But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
What two objectives are here stated as Christ coming into the world being sent ? Lk 19:10

10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Was He 100% successful in those 2 objectives ?
 

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I guess you believe that God is the author of sin, and when you sin, you are carrying out the will of God for your life.
You mean you believe mans will is sovereign over Gods will, which is Blasphemy ! Mans will is the god you bow to !
 

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Please answer my question: Do you sin? Is it God's will that you sin? Why are you afraid to answer? Would your answer violate your reformed theology?
What do you think these verses are saying?

[1Jo 3:9 KJV]
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

[Rom 7:8 KJV]
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin [was] dead.

[1Co 15:55-57 KJV]
55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?
56 The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

[Col 2:13-14 KJV]
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

[Rom 8:1-2 KJV]
1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
 

John146

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You mean you believe mans will is sovereign over Gods will, which is Blasphemy ! Mans will is the god you bow to !
There you go folks! Reformist believe that God wills people to sin. Unbelievable!
 

John146

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What do you think these verses are saying?

[1Jo 3:9 KJV]
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

[Rom 7:8 KJV]
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin [was] dead.

[1Co 15:55-57 KJV]
55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?
56 The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

[Col 2:13-14 KJV]
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

[Rom 8:1-2 KJV]
1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
In other words, you always carry out the will of God for your life in complete obedience. You have arrived at perfection. Congratulations!