God wills your steps, knowing you are always saved

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
R

rogerg

Well-known member
#221
Jul 13, 2021
3,467
513
113
#221
John146 said:
In other words, you always carry out the will of God for your life in complete obedience. You have arrived at perfection. Congratulations!
Click to expand...
So then you can't explain nor understand those verses, right? If you could, you'd have been able to answer your own question and you
probably wouldn't have needed to ask it.
 
J

John146

Senior Member
#222
Jan 13, 2016
16,794
3,573
113
#222
brightfame52 said:
You mean you believe mans will is sovereign over Gods will, which is Blasphemy ! Mans will is the god you bow to !
Click to expand...
Some of the things you say are funny. God's will is outlined in the scriptures. They will come to pass. God has given men, all men, a free will to choose his way or suffer the consequences. If man is to receive mercy and grace, man is to do it God's way as outlined in the scripture. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ! Man cannot will it or run it any other way. God's way is the only way.
 
J

John146

Senior Member
#225
Jan 13, 2016
16,794
3,573
113
#225
rogerg said:
What do you think these verses are saying?

[1Jo 3:9 KJV]
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

[Rom 7:8 KJV]
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin [was] dead.

[1Co 15:55-57 KJV]
55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?
56 The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

[Col 2:13-14 KJV]
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

[Rom 8:1-2 KJV]
1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Click to expand...
Praise the Lord, he has forgiven me of all trespasses and sins. Yet, I still fall short and sin daily. That is not God's will for my life.

Sometimes, I struggle obeying the following verses. Why even give us directions if God's will is always done in our lives?

1 Thessalonians 5
15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
16 Rejoice evermore.
17 Pray without ceasing.
18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
19 Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
 
R

rogerg

Well-known member
#226
Jul 13, 2021
3,467
513
113
#226
John146 said:
Praise the Lord, he has forgiven me of all trespasses and sins. Yet, I still fall short and sin daily. That is not God's will for my life.

Sometimes, I struggle obeying the following verses. Why even give us directions if God's will is always done in our lives?

1 Thessalonians 5
15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
16 Rejoice evermore.
17 Pray without ceasing.
18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
19 Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
Click to expand...
You didn't explain those verses
 
J

John146

Senior Member
#228
Jan 13, 2016
16,794
3,573
113
#228
brightfame52 said:
Your beliefs are atheistic, elevation of man's will over God's will .
Click to expand...
Thank you for your opinion. Your beliefs puts God as the author of sin and gives you an excuse for your disobedience.
 
R

rogerg

Well-known member
#229
Jul 13, 2021
3,467
513
113
#229
John146 said:
Praise the Lord, he has forgiven me of all trespasses and sins. Yet, I still fall short and sin daily. That is not God's will for my life.

Sometimes, I struggle obeying the following verses. Why even give us directions if God's will is always done in our lives?

1 Thessalonians 5
15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
16 Rejoice evermore.
17 Pray without ceasing.
18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
19 Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
Click to expand...
The above verses are unto edification, not unto judgement. Edification is how those of the elect/born-again are taught by God and
thereby they learn.
 
B

brightfame52

Well-known member
#230
Nov 21, 2020
6,075
525
113
#230
John146 said:
Some of the things you say are funny. God's will is outlined in the scriptures. They will come to pass. God has given men, all men, a free will to choose his way or suffer the consequences. If man is to receive mercy and grace, man is to do it God's way as outlined in the scripture. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ! Man cannot will it or run it any other way. God's way is the only way.
Click to expand...
Hear you tell it man's will is freer than God's Will, you bow to man, that is your God
 
J

John146

Senior Member
#233
Jan 13, 2016
16,794
3,573
113
#233
rogerg said:
The above verses are unto edification, not unto judgement. Edification is how those of the elect/born-again are taught by God and
thereby they learn.
Click to expand...
Is it the will of God for believers to rejoice in everything? Do all believers rejoice in everything? Do some fail on this? Of course.
 
R

rogerg

Well-known member
#236
Jul 13, 2021
3,467
513
113
#236
John146 said:
Is it the will of God for believers to rejoice in everything? Do all believers rejoice in everything? Do some fail on this? Of course.
Click to expand...
Of course, everyone falls short, but neither does that affect their salvation. People are saved by what Christ did, not by what they did nor do.
 
R

rogerg

Well-known member
#237
Jul 13, 2021
3,467
513
113
#237
Magenta said:
Atheists do not believe God exists...
Click to expand...
Let me ask you a question, one that I ponder over from time to time. If someone does not recognize, know, or believe in the
one true God but in a false God, does that make them an atheist?
 
Magenta

Magenta

Senior Member
#238
Jul 3, 2015
56,974
26,718
113
#238
rogerg said:
Let me ask you a question, one that I ponder over from time to time. If someone does not recognize,
know, or believe in the one true God but in a false God, does that make them an atheist?
Click to expand...
Atheism is marked by lack of belief in any God or gods:

disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

As a non-believer, I never identified as an atheist.

Not even as an agnostic...
 
J

John146

Senior Member
#239
Jan 13, 2016
16,794
3,573
113
#239
rogerg said:
Of course, everyone falls short, but neither does that affect their salvation. People are saved by what Christ did, not by what they did nor do.
Click to expand...
God's will is only for salvation not for holy living? Calvinists must pick and choose...
 
J

John146

Senior Member
#240
Jan 13, 2016
16,794
3,573
113
#240
rogerg said:
Let me ask you a question, one that I ponder over from time to time. If someone does not recognize, know, or believe in the
one true God but in a false God, does that make them an atheist?
Click to expand...
If one does not believe that God is the author of sin, that makes him an atheist? Wow!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.