God wills your steps, knowing you are always saved

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Fundaamental

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Yes, the Judgment Seat of Christ is where believers will be judged according to their labor. Rewards are at stake. The Great White Throne Judgment is for all others. Eternity is at stake.
Yes I've been reading up on it 😊.
But I believe you've just said this.
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brightfame52

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Yes, the Judgment Seat of Christ is where believers will be judged according to their labor. Rewards are at stake. The Great White Throne Judgment is for all others. Eternity is at stake.
They are the same Judgement, Im afraid you have been deceived friend. The Judgment seat of Christ and the White Throne Judgement are the same.
 

Fundaamental

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They are the same Judgement, Im afraid you have been deceived friend. The Judgment seat of Christ and the White Throne Judgement are the same.
can I just ask haven't we been judged already but when we go to heaven there is a place for believers in Christ, who are shall we say are not Judged but given there rewards based on there actions ?.

Is it known as the bema seat of judgment not the white throne Judgment.
 

brightfame52

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can I just ask haven't we been judged already but when we go to heaven there is a place for believers in Christ, who are shall we say are not Judged but given there rewards based on there actions ?.

Is it known as the bema seat of judgment not the white throne Judgment.
Believers I believe will be rewarded due to their union with Christ and unbelievers punished Rev 11:18

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
 

oyster67

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"God wills your steps, knowing you are always saved"


No. That is not the Gospel. Jesus died to provide us a choice...

Man chooses his step by choosing to accept or reject the salvation made available by Jesus. Salvation is conditional upon walking with God in a state of humble repentance when one errs from the way. Apostacy is not acceptable before the Lord.

2 Peter 3:9
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
 

Nehemiah6

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As believers The fruits lead us to hope but always keep us patient and calm knowing that they will return to the place of origin, for the fruits have the strength of the father mixed in and the wisdom and knowledge of knowing how to keep there new found light in there new found vessel the heart and mind if every believer, in reassurance.
Where in Scripture do you find this? It sounds more like Gnosticism.
 

Fundaamental

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"God wills your steps, knowing you are always saved"


No. That is not the Gospel. Jesus died to provide us a choice...

Man chooses his step by choosing to accept or reject the salvation made available by Jesus. Salvation is conditional upon walking with God in a state of humble repentance when one errs from the way. Apostacy is not acceptable before the Lord.

2 Peter 3:9
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Ahhh the true Gospel of some individual has a different mindset unfortunately.

It also usually follows up with some sort of idolatry in the form of worship my God and you will be saved.

I never could understand that those who don't realise that those who seek the lord for repentance are also saved.
Befor and after.
After = the holy spirit convicts the believer heart to not sin and if the believers does sin the holy spirit convicts the sinner to repentance.
The fruits of the holy spirit is forgiveness stored in the believer.

Before the sinner was not doing such.

The true Gospel is God saves sinners.

May the grace of lord Jesus God be with you and the fellowship of our holy spirit. 😊
 

oyster67

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Ahhh the true Gospel of some individual has a different mindset unfortunately.

It also usually follows up with some sort of idolatry in the form of worship my God and you will be saved.

I never could understand that those who don't realise that those who seek the lord for repentance are also saved.
Befor and after.
After = the holy spirit convicts the believer heart to not sin and if the believers does sin the holy spirit convicts the sinner to repentance.
The fruits of the holy spirit is forgiveness stored in the believer.

Before the sinner was not doing such.

The true Gospel is God saves sinners.

May the grace of lord Jesus God be with you and the fellowship of our holy spirit. 😊
Repentance is an active thing, not passive and automatic. The Prodigal Son was not magically transported back home simply because his father wished it so. He made a decision to return.
 

Fundaamental

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Repentance is an active thing, not passive and automatic. The Prodigal Son was not magically transported back home simply because his father wished it so. He made a decision to return.
are you going to forget the prodical Son who Jesus was talking about is the one who returns home.
 

Fundaamental

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Repentance is an active thing, not passive and automatic. The Prodigal Son was not magically transported back home simply because his father wished it so. He made a decision to return.
unless of course your refering to the prodical sons of the old testament.
 
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If i may ask....how do you come to the conclusion that lots wife is a picture of the church?
Or that she is the picture of christanity?
 

brightfame52

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"God wills your steps, knowing you are always saved"


No. That is not the Gospel. Jesus died to provide us a choice...

Man chooses his step by choosing to accept or reject the salvation made available by Jesus. Salvation is conditional upon walking with God in a state of humble repentance when one errs from the way. Apostacy is not acceptable before the Lord.

2 Peter 3:9
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
This is false witnessing, nowhere does scripture say or even implies that Jesus died to give people a choice. Jesus died to save His People from their sins Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. This is the Gospel, the word of promise !
 

Fundaamental

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If i may ask....how do you come to the conclusion that lots wife is a picture of the church?
Or that she is the picture of christanity?
are you asking me ? I never raised the topic of lot in the first place 😱
 

Fundaamental

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This is false witnessing, nowhere does scripture say or even implies that Jesus died to give people a choice. Jesus died to save His People from their sins Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. This is the Gospel, the word of promise !
I don't want to cause division between Oyster and ourselves but it wasn't so long ago we had a member here called FrankSophia who was banned and shared the same sentiments as oyster
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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From Matthew 13 (NKJV);
13 On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. 2 And great multitudes were gathered together to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”
The Purpose of Parables
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”

11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:
‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I [b]should heal them.’

16 But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; 17 for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
The Parable of the Sower Explained
18 “Therefore hear the parable of the sower: 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. 20 But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”