GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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No friend, I am in the new covenant not keep sabbath law

if you keep sabbath law than kill the violator.

to me every day alike

romans 14

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14 is not a commandment ! Paul is just saying that SOME people esteem different days from the sabbath....that is just a 'statement, NOT a commandment. Paul also says we are to follow HIM as HE FOLLOWS Christ....Paul is not saying we should follow some who choose their own holy day !

Do you actually understand what Paul IS saying ??? seems not !but people can read it as they like to suit themselves...and it shows they are not agreeing with HIM or with CHRIST, since THEY kept the Sabbath.

Seems you are determined to be killed as a violater...and you will get your wish ! You have opportunity to be regenerated and converted but stubbornly refuse...your choice !
 

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I am in the new commandment Love God and live neigbors. 4 th commandment is old covenant with Israel.
If you are a stranger of the covenant with Israel you are without God Eph 2v11,12 ...our only connection is through Christ Jesus Lord of the Sabbath !!! v13. learn your Bible Jackson.
 

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You are a funny one Jackson,

Where does it say in Romans 14 that is it talking about God's Sabbath the 4th commandment and not the annual feast days pointing to Jesus that were fulfilled at the cross?
Where in that statement say It is anual feast day? If so why Paul let people esteemeth the day that allready fulfilled above other?
 

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Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
kill the sabbath violator is also the word of God, is this include not passed away?
 

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Rom 14 is not a commandment ! Paul is just saying that SOME people esteem different days from the sabbath....that is just a 'statement, NOT a commandment. Paul also says we are to follow HIM as HE FOLLOWS Christ....Paul is not saying we should follow some who choose their own holy day !

Do you actually understand what Paul IS saying ??? seems not !but people can read it as they like to suit themselves...and it shows they are not agreeing with HIM or with CHRIST, since THEY kept the Sabbath.

Seems you are determined to be killed as a violater...and you will get your wish ! You have opportunity to be regenerated and converted but stubbornly refuse...your choice !
To me Paul say It is OK to say every day alike.
 

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If you are a stranger of the covenant with Israel you are without God Eph 2v11,12 ...our only connection is through Christ Jesus Lord of the Sabbath !!! v13. learn your Bible Jackson.
I am not stranger of covenant with Israel, but I do not believe sabbath law apply for In new covenant.
 

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Where does it say the Sabbath?
sabbath is the name of the day isn't It?

every day alike mean sunday mon, tue wen thu, fri, SAT/sabbath.

all who believe in Jesus Will save

where It say Jackson save?

as long my name in the criteria
 
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Good post bro! It is GOD's word in our hearts so we can love.

HIS Word; HIS Divine utterances.

This is the circumcision made without hands. Christ in us the hope of Glory; GOD.

It is HIS Spirit. For we are the Temple of GOD and the Shekinah Glory; the Word; HIS divine utterance is in us as it was in the Temple in the Wilderness.

The Commandments in our hearts as they were in the Ark of the Covenant in the Temple. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; And having an high priest over the house of God (the Body of Christ); Which House we are if we hold the beginning of our Confidence steadfast unto the end
(Heb 10:19-21;3:6)
Hi Scott,

Absolutely, we are his temple.

1 Cor 3
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Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17, If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

We are God's temple he dwell in us and we are to be HOLY (without SIN). If any man DEFILE the temple of God (our bodies) you will be DESTROYED. What does it mean to DEFILE the temple of GOD?

Matthew 15
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For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.<SINFUL THOUGHTS of breaking God's COMMANDMENTS in your thoughts MIND>
20, THESE ARE THE THINGS WHICH DEFILE A MAN: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

Let's put it all together.....

We are God's temple not made with hands. God wants to dwell in us and walk in US through HIS Spirit (Romans 8:1-4). God wants us to be HOLY (without SIN) in the HOLY PLACE (The mind; throughts and feelings). IF WE DEFILE God's TEMPLE by BRAKING HIS COMMANDMENTS God will Destroy the TEMPLE. (THOSE WHO SIN against HIM)

This is why it is written Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is BORN AGAIN he cannot see the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. Cannot see means cannot know or cannot enter into God's Kingdom.

SIN will keep all who practice is OUT of God's KINGDOM. God's LAW written on the HEART to LOVE is the NEW Covenant because LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW through FAITH to those who WALK in HIS SPIRIT. (Romans 13:8-10)

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

If we brake any of God's commandments it is showing we do not LOVE God or our fellow man...

Thie is why Jesus says....... If you LOVE me keep my COMMANDMENTS (John 14:15;15:10)

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Now that you have agreed with me do you now understand that LOVE in the New Covenant is God fulfilling his LAW in us to free us from SIN so that we are now free to LOVE and Follow him?
 
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Where in that statement say It is anual feast day? If so why Paul let people esteemeth the day that allready fulfilled above other?
This was my point Jackson you just answered it for me. Romans 14 does not day what it is referring to. We know in Colossian and in Ephesians Paul is referring to the annual Jewish festivals and Holy days and explains many are shadows of things to come pointing to Jesus right?

The rest of the scriptures clearly show that God's LAW (10 commandments) is FOREVER right? They are the standard of SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS, the OLD and the NEW Covenant and the Judgement to come as already shared with the scriptures.

We have already shared so many scriptures on this topic. Happy to re-post them agian if it will help.

Now if God's LAW (10 commandments) is FOREVER and the knowledge of GOOD and EVIL that shows us that we are sinners and leads us to the Savior.

Why would you even think that Romans 14 is even talking about the 4th commandment when the 4th commandment is not even mentioned in the whole book of Romans?

Now if GOD's Word says that the 10 commandments are the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and RIGHTEOUSNESS why would you now think the BREAKING God's 4th commandment is NOT SIN when GOD says it is SIN if you break any of his commandments (James 2:8-12)?

Now if God's 4th commandment is NOT even mentioned in the BOOK of Romans and GOD says that if we brake HIS Commandments we commit SIN and SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM, are you not worried my friend that breaking God's 4th commandment will keep you OUT of GOD's KINGDOM?

What will you say to God on the day of Judgement when you say to him Lord Lord I did many wonderful things in your name, What will God say to those who break God's commandments? Depart from me you who SIN I never KNEW you ...

This is God's WARNING to youand ALL my friend. Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of God's WORD are HIS people. Those who do not follow God's WORD and break HIS commandments are still in their SINS and unless they REPENT they will be LOST in their SINS. I will pray for you.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

It is a fearfun thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


 

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This was my point Jackson you just answered it for me. Romans 14 does not day what it is referring to. We know in Colossian and in Ephesians Paul is referring to the annual Jewish festivals and Holy days and explains many are shadows of things to come pointing to Jesus right?

The rest of the scriptures clearly show that God's LAW (10 commandments) is FOREVER right? They are the standard of SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS, the OLD and the NEW Covenant and the Judgement to come as already shared with the scriptures.

We have already shared so many scriptures on this topic. Happy to re-post them agian if it will help.

Now if God's LAW (10 commandments) is FOREVER and the knowledge of GOOD and EVIL that shows us that we are sinners and leads us to the Savior.

Why would you even think that Romans 14 is even talking about the 4th commandment when the 4th commandment is not even mentioned in the whole book of Romans?

Now if GOD's Word says that the 10 commandments are the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and RIGHTEOUSNESS why would you now think the BREAKING God's 4th commandment is NOT SIN when GOD says it is SIN if you break any of his commandments (James 2:8-12)?

Now if God's 4th commandment is NOT even mentioned in the BOOK of Romans and GOD says that if we brake HIS Commandments we commit SIN and SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM, are you not worried my friend that breaking God's 4th commandment will keep you OUT of GOD's KINGDOM?

What will you say to God on the day of Judgement when you say to him Lord Lord I did many wonderful things in your name, What will God say to those who break God's commandments? Depart from me you who SIN I never KNEW you ...

This is God's WARNING to youand ALL my friend. Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of God's WORD are HIS people. Those who do not follow God's WORD and break HIS commandments are still in their SINS and unless they REPENT they will be LOST in their SINS. I will pray for you.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

It is a fearfun thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


so you believe Romans 14 not refering colossian

and you believe colossian refering anual sabbath

so Romans 14:5 refering to what?
 
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so you believe Romans 14 not refering colossian and you believe colossian refering anual sabbathso Romans 14:5 refering to what?
Hello Jackson,

Maybe these questions are better..........

Where does it say in Romans or any where that God's 4th commandment has been ABOLISHED ?

Is someone who is living a life in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN in a SAVED state before GOD or an UNSAVED state before GOD ?

Look forward to hearing back from you...
 
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I have to admit, It does makes me smile everytime I read Lovegodforever's statement that God's Law and the Mosaic law are at enmity with each other... If if wasn't a serious consideration I would burst out laughing at the silliness of it.

The Mosaic law is God's! However, as we all can see that does not fit with a sabbatarian legalist theology.
No. The Mosaic Law is not God's law. Moses is not God.

Just one example, God never did command us to stone to death women caught in adultery.
 

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kill the sabbath violator is also the word of God, is this include not passed away?
Amen! According to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the Sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people.

Who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Seventh day Adventist church? The Government?

If the keeping Sabbath day is still in effect today, so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). So no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath (Exodus 35:3). Every man must remain in his place (no traveling) on the sabbath (Exodus 16:29). No trading (Amos 8:5). No marketing (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19).

These were commanded by God to Israel (Exodus 35:1) under the Old Covenant and not to the Church, the body of Christ under the New Covenant (Colossians 2:16,17).

If the seventh day Sabbath is still in affect, then why do not the Sabbatarians seek to obey ALL that the LORD commanded? How can a person keep a certain law when he keeps only part of it? Since we do not live under a theocratic state as ancient Israel did under the Old Covenant, no Sabbatarian can live consistently under these Mosaic regulations.
 

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Hello Jackson,

Maybe these questions are better..........

Where does it say in Romans or any where that God's 4th commandment has been ABOLISHED ?

Is someone who is living a life in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN in a SAVED state before GOD or an UNSAVED state before GOD ?

Look forward to hearing back from you...
if you answere my question you Will know the answere
 
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Amen! According to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the Sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people.

The Sabbath a was set aside so that we could do the good work of getting out the gospel . It’s the kind of fast that can drive out demons and open the gates of hell to release the born again ones.

So it’s not any work but what kind of work should be performed so that we can know we have been heard on high?
 
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sabbath is the name of the day isn't It?

every day alike mean sunday mon, tue wen thu, fri, SAT/sabbath.

all who believe in Jesus Will save

where It say Jackson save?

as long my name in the criteria
The word Sabbath is not a time sensitive word. It means rest. We are commanded not to add meanings to word (singular) it diminishes from the intent of the author by giving a new added meaning...( Deuteronomy 12:32)

Exchanging the word Rest replacing it with the word Week destroys the intent of the Sabbath. Any time we hear His voice and harden not our heart we have entered his rest.

Its a work he performs in us to both will and do His good pleasure.Sabbath (God's rest) was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

When Christ as the Son of man came , three Kosher meals were allowed on the Sabbath along with other kosher works (how far can I walk etc.).

The man’s bragging was in respect to two meals on the Sabbath.

What would missing two meals a week have to do with the gospel ? Was the man over weight? I miss more than two meals a week and not losing any weight or getting better looking?

Luke 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

I fast twice in the Sabbath, I give tithes of all that I possess.
 
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Hello MMD,

If you do not know the scriptures how can you know what the Old Covenant is? If you do not know what the Old Covenant is how can you know what the New Covenant is? If you do not know what the New Covenant is how can you know what the Gospel is if you hold on to your traditions that brake the commandments of God? If you follow the traditions of men you are not following the Word of God. If you are not following the Word of God how can you find your way in the dark when your light has gone out when the road is narrow?

Let's have a detailed look at what you have posted.............

Amen! According to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the Sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people.
Who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Seventh day Adventist church? The Government?
Now MMD this only shows you do not know what the OLD Covenant is as you are now quoting scripture referring to the CIVIL laws of Israel. We are in the NEW Covenant my friend and not living in Israel or in the Old Covenant my friend.

In the civil laws of Israel the death penalty was required for anyone caught openly sinning and breaking nearly ALL of God's 10 commandments including the 4th commandment. Here are all the other scritpures that you have left out of your post...

Death Penalties under the CIVIL laws of Israel in the Old Covenant.

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[TD] Serviing other Gods[/TD]
[TD] Deut 13:6-18; 1Sam 26:19[/TD]
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[TD] Idolatary [/TD]
[TD] Deut 13:1-10; 17:2-5; 27:15;
Deut 7:25-26
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[TD] Using God's name in Vain[/TD]
[TD] Lev 24:10-17 [/TD]
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[TD] Breaking Sabbath[/TD]
[TD] Exodus 31:14-15; 35:2[/TD]
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[TD] Dishonor Parents[/TD]
[TD] Lev 20:9; Deut 21:18-21; Ex 21:17[/TD]
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[TD] Murder[/TD]
[TD] Ex 21:12-14[/TD]
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[TD] Adultery[/TD]
[TD] Lev 20; John 8:5[/TD]
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[TD] Stealing (kidnapping)[/TD]
[TD] Ex 21:16[/TD]
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[TD] Lying[/TD]
[TD] Deuteronomy 19:15-21[/TD]
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[TD] Coveting[/TD]
[TD] none [/TD]
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So NO MMD we are not living in the OLD Testament in the Nation of Israel under the CIVIL laws of Israel so your argument simply does not make sense.

If the keeping Sabbath day is still in effect today, so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). So no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath (Exodus 35:3). Every man must remain in his place (no traveling) on the sabbath (Exodus 16:29). No trading (Amos 8:5). No marketing (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19).
You are confusing your rules and regulations with the Mosaic laws for remission of sins, written in a book for burnt offereing that where shadows of things to come pointing to Jesus (Colossians 2) in order to justify your working on God's Sabbath and breaking it to support your tradition.

It is true the commandment says no work is to be done in the 4th commandment and we are to make preparation for God's Sabbath. Then you quote Ex 16:29 about no travelling and staying at home on God's Sabbath when the scripture is talking about gathering manner in the field on the Sabbath?

This only shows why I asked you the questions what is the Old Covenant? If you do not know what the OLD Covenant is how can you know what the NEW Covenant is? If you do not KNOW what the OLD and NEW Covenants are how can you know what the Gospel is?

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it just like any of the other 10 when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?


These were commanded by God to Israel (Exodus 35:1) under the Old Covenant and not to the Church, the body of Christ under the New Covenant (Colossians 2:16,17).
Well there is no truth in that statement whatsoever and here we are in this thread yet no one has been able to dispute the OP with the 200 + scriptures that disagree with your interpretation of one scripture that you use to hold on to your tradition in order to break God's commandments.

Do you have anything in relation to the OP to share on Col 2:14-17?

Now let's look at who God's Israel are according to the scriptures in the NEW Covenant..........

Who are Israel?

"Israel" is only a name given by God himself to represent his people. The origin of the name "Israel" come from Genesis 32:28 where Jacob wrestled with the Angel and prevailed ...for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Its meaning is his posterity will rule as God. Jacob had 12 sons representing the 12 tribes of Israel.

Israel is only a name given by God that represents God's people and today anyone who is following Jesus is part of God's Israel according to God's Word.

What does God's Word say.....................................…

Let God be true and every man a liar that thou might be justified in thy sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged.

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He says not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, AND TO YOUR SEED, WHICH IS CHRIST (Galatians 3:16)

Abraham’s seed is Israel............................................

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

No explanation needed, believe God's Word, and again..........................

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

God's Israel...............

Galatians 3:28-29,
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3:11,
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Romans 2:28-29,
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel..........................

Jeremiah 31:33-4,
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Hebrews 8:10-12,
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Hebrews 10:14-17,
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, this is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Galatians 3:29,
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise

The New Covenant is for God's Israel which represent God’s followers the believers. If you are not part of God's Israel you are not part of the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:10-12).

God's Israel are those that believe the Word of God and follow it and is why Jesus says If you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15)

So NO my friend as shown in Hebrews 8 and all the other scritpures above if you are NOT a part of God's Israel then you are NOT a part of the NEW Covenant. God's WORD and his LAW is given to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him.


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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
 
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