GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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under the law

in Romans 3:19
ἐν τῷ νόμῳ*

in Galatians 5:18
ὑπὸ νόμον

different words

to me, looking at one set of words and thinking it must mean the same as the other set of words isn't the right thing to do

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Quite right Gal 5:18
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
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ὑπὸ νόμον in Galatians means Under Law [no article] the sense intended is Governed by the Spirit rather than by Law.


Rom 3:19
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
KJV


While ἐν τῷ νόμῳ in Rom 3:19 literally says IN THE LAW. The sense is not only 'subject to the law'; but ἐν τῷ refers back to the previous subject namely Rom 3:17-18
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
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It is very much same question as 'do you go to hell because you went to a church on a Sunday' I think.
Worship everyday is right, the 7th day Sabbath is not about worship it is about being set apart to YHWH the day Hew says;

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Exodus 20:8-11, “Remember the Sabbath day, to set it apart." Six days you labor, and shall do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Mighty One. You do not do any work – you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart.”[/FONT]

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the 7th day is set apart for doing His work ONLY;

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."

Mark 3:4, “And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do right on the Sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.”

John 7:22-24, “Because of this Mosheh has given you the circumcision – though it is not from Mosheh, but from the fathers – and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the Torah of Mosheh should not be broken, are you wroth with Me because I made a man entirely well on the Sabbath? Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
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So to summarize one can worship and go the congregation any day of the week, one can do Yah's will any day of the week, the more the better, but days 1-6 one can also do their own will (not sin) but their own work, working for money, dishes, house work, etc. but the 7th day is set apart for His work only.
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:24, "As for you, let that stay in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning stays in you, you also shall stay in the Son and in the Father."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, “And you shall love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, ‘Do not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the children of your people. And you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]




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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 4:4, “But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].” (Deut 8:3)[/FONT]
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Quite right Gal 5:18
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
KJV


ὑπὸ νόμον in Galatians means Under Law [no article] the sense intended is Governed by the Spirit rather than by Law.


Rom 3:19
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
KJV


While ἐν τῷ νόμῳ in Rom 3:19 literally says IN THE LAW. The sense is not only 'subject to the law'; but ἐν τῷ refers back to the previous subject namely Rom 3:17-18
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
KJV
If the Spirit is consistent with Jesus and God is consistent with the law, than when you are lead by the Spirit you will be lead to obey the law.
You can keep the law like the pharisees to be righteous or you can keep it because the Spirit is controlling you.
When you obey the law there is no condemnation because there is no law against you. You are dead to the law.

So When we are freed from the law and obey the Spirit, can you see how that means we are free from the penalty of the law, because of grace and because we stop breaking it. And by the Spirit in us we obey out of love and because we are renewed (transformed) by the Spirit.
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”[/FONT]
 

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God has the authority to question our doings and hold us accountable both by right of creation and by right of redemption.

You and I nave NO BASIS to question God's doings or to hold Him accountable [read Job chapters 38-41].

If or when I am able to create my own universe I may consider questioning God; but even then it is probably not a good idea.
We have every right to question the actions of man.
 
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As you see again, Dan, more ad homimem attacks, no answer.
Some teachers eh
There is no attack on you PH, you ask your questions because you seek to snare, not because you want to learn anything from anyone.

You make claims that no one wants to answer you, yet you have been promised answers to your questions if you make a promise to answer the questions of others, but you decline.

So why should your questions be answered?

You expect an answer to all your questions yet you decline to answer the questions of others that can help the discussion.

Now my friend how is this fair a fair discussion if you expect everyone to answer your questions but refuse to answer the questions of others?

When God's Word is shared with you then you do not believe it. This is your decision no one is to judge you as all are free to do as they wish. However God's Word will judge everyone come judgement day (John 12:47-48)

SIN is the transgression or breakin gof God's Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:8-12; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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If the Spirit is consistent with Jesus and God is consistent with the law, than when you are lead by the Spirit you will be lead to obey the law.
You can keep the law like the pharisees to be righteous or you can keep it because the Spirit is controlling you.
When you obey the law there is no condemnation because there is no law against you. You are dead to the law.

So When we are freed from the law and obey the Spirit, can you see how that means we are free from the penalty of the law, because of grace and because we stop breaking it. And by the Spirit in us we obey out of love and because we are renewed (transformed) by the Spirit.
At least somone gets it. Nice post and thanks for sharing TMS.
 

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one man wrote this letter. the same man said all of it. so, if the one man was talking about any of the 10, he would have said so. he said what the commands were. Sabbath was not one. truth.
Neither was abstaining from Bestiality. So according to your theology this is now acceptable behavior.
 

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Neither was abstaining from Bestiality. So according to your theology this is now acceptable behavior.
Aren't the Ten Commandments are about our behaviour towards God and other people?
 

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Lightbearer said 'no' -- because 'everything that physically separated the Jews is abolished'

But I do not see any scripture anywhere that says this, only opinion and traditions of people who want to judge others by part of law but not all of it. I see nowhere in scripture that Torah is to be broken apart into pieces you can ignore and pieces you must keep on penalty of eternal hell. Torah is one Torah. Not one jot or tittle!

Certainly however, there is no specific verse anywhere 'abolishing' tzitzit, so how is it removed if it is?

It is very much same question as 'do you go to hell because you went to a church on a Sunday' I think.
This is a astute point, I want to say everything to "seperate the Jews" is an inaccurate view, it was to seperate those who worship YHWH from those who do not. Hebrew or Gentile:
No Shamah this is what was said; All the Laws that made Israel standout physically have been done away with in Christ. They were but symbols of the Covenanted promise. For GOD has said He will circumcise the heart and the heart of our seed with the circumcision of Christ. For We now have put on Christ though Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek we are all one in Christ. He in us, GOD in Him, that we may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that GOD hast sent Jesus, and hast loved us, as thou hast loved Him. No need for any outward adornment to show others or to remind ourselves who we are to be in HIM.


Besides that we now do not need to wear reminders of the Law physically; binding copies of them to our foreheads and to our hands anymore.
These were but symbols of the Covenanted promise.For GOD has said HE has put HIS Law in our hearts, minds and mouths that we do it. Of his own will begat he us with to the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. For We are a new creation in Christ Jesus; behold all things are new and of God.

We have a New Garment to which we all wear; Christ Jesus our Lord.

But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds (sinning); And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

(Heb 3:6 Eph 2:14-19 20 Gal 3:26-29;Col 3:9-11 KJV)

The Garment; Christ; His Word; the Faith, the Law in our hearts and in our minds, and in our mouths, that we do it. For it is HE that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. It is HIS righteousness through HIS indwelling. For we are the Temple of GOD the Body of Christ; HE doeth the work.
 

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Originally Posted by lightbearer

It is a conditional particle which the extant of Greek manuscripts all concur. But none of the manuscripts have a negative particle. Those translations you cited are taking a liberty they ought not take. They do it it because the feel the writer of Hebrews meant to quote Psalm 95:11 verbatim. He did not. The Word stands as is.

The Gospel is conditional in respect to unbelief (obstinate stiff necked rebellion). If we are rebelling as Israel did in the example GIVEN in chapter 3, then we have not enter into HIS Rest (received the Gospel) either. But the writer of Hebrews makes it clear, "For we which have believed do enter into rest. So with that being understood it is not future for all.
Incidentally The "if" is in respect to the rest of the Gospel. The "this again" in verse 5 is in relation to the Seventh Day Sabbath.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest (the Gospel), any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the Gospel (HIS Rest) preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest (the Gospel), as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest (the Gospel): although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.(Heb 4:1-3 KJV)

Please Notice above that the Gospel was available to Israel since Moses but they did not enter into due to unbelief (obstinate stiff necked rebellion). What is also being said in those text is that the works for the the HIS rest (the Gospel) were finished from the foundation of the World. Which means that any one from the time of dam on had the capability through GOD through HIS Christ to enter into HIS rest; the Gospel.


For HE (GOD) spake in a certain place (the Decalogue) of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this again (the Decalogue), If they shall enter into my rest (receive the Gospel). Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein (the Gospel), and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief (obstinate stiff neck rebellion)


(Heb 4:4-6)
The Gospel is a simple message that can be given on any street corner to any ordinary person. I can't imagine you getting an audience if you preach like that.
That was not preaching it is a Bible study. The Gospel message is simple and easily understood but the average person on the strret corner will not understand it or will not accept because one needs the Spirit for Spiritual things.
I suggest you put it in simple language so the ordinary person can understand it. Apart from anything else it is a good discipline.
If you have issues with words used or how things are explain ask.
By the way, how would you summarize the Gospel of Moses?
It has been shared already here. How is it you did not hear? There is and has only been one Gospel.

And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law (the Word), and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word ( the commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law; the Word) is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. This is the circumcision made without hands; the Gospel of GOD through Moses. For God has said, the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart With is the circumcision of Christ.
(Deu 30:6,10-14)

As said in Romans 10:6-8, For the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (the Word; the Book of the Law) down from above:) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (the Word; the Book of the Law) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ; the Book of the Law) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach. And that is the Gospel!
 
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That was not preaching it is a Bible study. The Gospel message is simple and easily understood but the average person on the strret corner will not understand it or will not accept because one needs the Spirit for Spiritual things. If you have issues with words used or how things are explain ask.
It has been shared already here. How is it you did not hear? There is and has only been one Gospel.

And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law (the Word), and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word ( the commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law; the Word) is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. This is the circumcision made without hands; the Gospel of GOD through Moses. For God has said, the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart With is the circumcision of Christ.
(Deu 30:6,10-14)

As said in Romans 10:6-8, For the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (the Word; the Book of the Law) down from above:) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (the Word; the Book of the Law) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ; the Book of the Law) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach. And that is the Gospel!
O.K. It's a Bible study. I would present the Gospel like this:


  • God: The Gospel starts with God, the Creator and Ruler of all things. God is holy, good, loving, all-powerful, and deserving of our praise and allegiance. (Rev. 4:11)
  • Sin: Despite being made and loved by this amazing God, we have all rebelled against God by ignoring Him, disobeying Him, seeking to live life our own way, and treasuring other things more than we value God. The Bible calls this “sin.” (Romans 3:10-12)
  • Judgment: Because God is just, our rebellion against Him demands punishment. This punishment includes not only death, but also separation from God both now and for all eternity. (Hebrews 9:27)
  • Jesus: Yet, God demonstrated His great love by sending His Son into the world as the man Jesus to live a perfect life and die in our place, paying our debt to God (1 Peter 3:18). In doing so, God made possible our pardon from sin—something we did not deserve.
  • Resurrection: As proof that He accepted Jesus’ sacrifice for sin, God raised Jesus to life again, giving us assurance we too can have eternal life with God. (1 Peter 1:3)
  • Decision: To be reconciled to God, we must turn to Him in repentance and have faith in Jesus. This will begin a relationship with Him that will never end. (Jn. 3:36)
  • Source: What is the Christian Gospel?
In an open-air meeting I would simply quote John 3:16 and maybe enlarge on it a little.
 

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Besides that we now do not need to wear reminders of the Law physically; binding copies of them to our foreheads and to our hands anymore.
that was never the intention of that Law anyway. That is what the pharisees taught to do but;

Deuteronomy 11:18, “And you shall lay up these Words of Mine in your heart and in your being, and shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.”


Spirit or letter? The Spirit says one thing The letter can be twisted continually


This is how Judaism “keeps” the “letter” of the Law and not the Spirit:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -
Tefillin (Askhenazic: /ˈtfɪlᵻn/; Israeli Hebrew: [tfiˈlin], ),
תפילין also called phylacteries (/fɪˈlæktəriːz/ from Ancient Greek φυλακτήριον phylacterion, form of phylássein, φυλάσσειν meaning "to guard, protect"), are a set of small black leather boxes containing scrolls of parchment inscribed with verses from the Torah. They are worn by male observant Jews during weekday morning prayers.
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Rather than have the Law in their heart they “followed it” letter letter for letter, they tied the paper on which the Law was written to their head and arm.


"bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes"


The proper implication of this Law would be to Spiritually binding them to your hand by doing the Laws in ones life. Spiritually binding them as a frontlet between your eyes would be keeping them in your mind.…

we cant view the Commands through the way of the Pharisees and then disregard them, IMO this example is perfect to show true intent vs "the letter"

Yah wants true intent, one can twist the letter. THey did it with most all Laws, they "made" loopholes.
 

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Someone asked about the Gospel:

QUESTION: Is our salvation dependent on going to church on Saturday?

ANSWER: No, our salvation is not dependent on going to church on Saturday, our salvation is thanks to God for what he has done for us.
 

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1 John 4:19, “We love Him because He first loved us.”


1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."


Exodus 20:6, “But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws.”


John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”



Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."

Mark 3:4, “And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do right on the Sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.”

John 7:22-24, “Because of this Mosheh has given you the circumcision – though it is not from Mosheh, but from the fathers – and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the Torah of Mosheh should not be broken, are you wroth with Me because I made a man entirely well on the Sabbath? Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 9:23-26, “Thus said יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “Let not the wise boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty boast in his might, nor let the rich boast in his riches, but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], doing loving-commitment, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” declares [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “See, the days are coming,” declares [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “when I shall punish all circumcised with the uncircumcised; Mitsrayim, and Yehuḏah, and Eḏom, and the children of Ammon, and Mo’aḇ, and all those trimmed on the edges, who dwell in the wilderness. For all the nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Yisra’ĕl are uncircumcised in heart!”[/FONT]


 

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So how to observe sabbath according to New Testament, any body know, and able to give the verses?
 

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So how to observe sabbath according to New Testament, any body know, and able to give the verses?
Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."

Mark 3:4, “And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do right on the Sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.”

John 7:22-24, “Because of this Mosheh has given you the circumcision – though it is not from Mosheh, but from the fathers – and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the Torah of Mosheh should not be broken, are you wroth with Me because I made a man entirely well on the Sabbath? Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”


Why were they not sinning by breaking the Sabbath by “doing work” on the Sabbath? Because they are doing the will of YHWH, the true intent of the Sabbath day:

Isaiah 58:11-14, YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it.


The true intent of the Sabbath day is not about only worshiping on the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day, it is about doing His will and not doing our own will.

Mat 12:12, “And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath.”

and nobody is letting Jesus keep the Sabbath for them or "resting" in Jesus now, it sounds real nice but the rest Yahshua/Jesus offers is till future, as in when He returns:

Mat 11:27-30, "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father. And no one fully knows the Son except the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father, except the Son and those whom YHWH wills the Son to reveal. Come to Me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light"

2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of יהוה, in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of יהוה, for which you also suffer, since יהוה shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are afflicted rest with us when the Master יהושע is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know יהוה, and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master יהושע Messiah, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength, when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.”


Revelation 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit: because they will rest from their labors, and their works do follow them!"

Jeremiah 6:16-17, “Thus said יהוה, “Stand in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where the good way is, and walk in it; and find rest for yourselves.” But they said, We do not walk in it.’ “And I raised up watchmen over you, and said, ‘Listen to a voice of the trumpet!’ But they said, ‘We do not listen.’


 

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So how to observe sabbath according to New Testament, any body know, and able to give the verses?
They would have practised water baptism by total immersion in the rivers as did John the Baptist.

They would have taken communion as the Lord commanded.

They met in one-another's homes and they were extorted not to forsake the assembling of themselves together. (Heb 10:25)

They sang hymns, and they studied the Old Testament, presumably mainly the prophets.

The ladies would have worn hats.

This is off the top of my head, I'm sorry I can't offer scriptures just now, I would need to search them out.