GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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Someone asked about the Gospel:
QUESTION: Is our salvation dependent on wearing special garments, ornaments, tassels, belts, sashes, incense or any other frippery?
ANSWER: No. Jesus wants us just as we are, lost in sin and degradation, miserable vile sinners that we are. He said to Zacchaeus He "had come to seek and to save that which was lost."
QUESTION: Is our salvation dependent on wearing special garments, ornaments, tassels, belts, sashes, incense or any other frippery?
ANSWER: No. Jesus wants us just as we are, lost in sin and degradation, miserable vile sinners that we are. He said to Zacchaeus He "had come to seek and to save that which was lost."
Yes, correct, this is what your interpretation leads to Dan. Jesus never sinned so your interpretation cannot be correct.
When you combine Gal 4:4 with Romans 3:19-23 it is very clear what the meaning is....
Romans 3
19, Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21, But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22, Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
The scripture says the woman was under the law (sinner) not Jesus. So Jesus was born of sinners but did not sin. This is why he is our perfect sacrifice to those who believe.
Rom 2:12
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
To say that Jesus was "UNDER THE LAW" is the same as saying Jesus was a sinner because in the context of Romans 3 this is what the scriptures are talking about. This is not what the scripture is saying. It is saying that Jesus was born of a woman made under the law (sinner). Jesus was born of sinners but never sinned.
Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it. UNBELIEVERS have no part in God's KINGDOM.
ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
When you combine Gal 4:4 with Romans 3:19-23 it is very clear what the meaning is....
Romans 3
19, Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21, But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22, Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
The scripture says the woman was under the law (sinner) not Jesus. So Jesus was born of sinners but did not sin. This is why he is our perfect sacrifice to those who believe.
Rom 2:12
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
To say that Jesus was "UNDER THE LAW" is the same as saying Jesus was a sinner because in the context of Romans 3 this is what the scriptures are talking about. This is not what the scripture is saying. It is saying that Jesus was born of a woman made under the law (sinner). Jesus was born of sinners but never sinned.
Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it. UNBELIEVERS have no part in God's KINGDOM.
ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
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It is given to the blind to have eyes to see and ears to hear and the lame to walk while those seeing see not. Those hearing hear not and those walking walk not. This is because spiritual things are spiritually discerned. They that be whole do not need the physician but those that are sick seek him. Many do not know the meaning.
The light shines in darkness because many turn off their lamps; Yes they seek to sit in darkness because the light shows them who they are. Many love darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. They do not know that there is nothing that can be hidden when the light is turned on. There is no darkness to hide in when the light is turned on.
Yet many seen to turn off the light because men love darkness rather then light because they seek evil deeds. Those who love the light have nothing to hide. Yet when the light is turned on many seek to hide back in the shadows of darkness and seek to turn off the light lest all see who they really are.
Light is indeed come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that does truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Who can know the Word of God when there is no Word? The light shines in the darkness and the the darkness seeks to hide from the light. It is hard to see when the road is dark and narrow in the night and your lamp has gone out.
Many choose to turn their lamps off because they choose to sit in the darkness. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed when the light is turned on. Come judgemen day however it will be too late when you should have come to the light when the light was calling.
Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT DARKNESS will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of LIGHT.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
The light shines in darkness because many turn off their lamps; Yes they seek to sit in darkness because the light shows them who they are. Many love darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. They do not know that there is nothing that can be hidden when the light is turned on. There is no darkness to hide in when the light is turned on.
Yet many seen to turn off the light because men love darkness rather then light because they seek evil deeds. Those who love the light have nothing to hide. Yet when the light is turned on many seek to hide back in the shadows of darkness and seek to turn off the light lest all see who they really are.
Light is indeed come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that does truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Who can know the Word of God when there is no Word? The light shines in the darkness and the the darkness seeks to hide from the light. It is hard to see when the road is dark and narrow in the night and your lamp has gone out.
Many choose to turn their lamps off because they choose to sit in the darkness. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed when the light is turned on. Come judgemen day however it will be too late when you should have come to the light when the light was calling.
Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT DARKNESS will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of LIGHT.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
That is the whole point of my posts Dan. Being purchased by God, we now do the Works of God, not the works of some religious franchise or some ancient religious tradition.
1 Cor. 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
1 Cor. 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that (Grace) not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of (Mans) works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
There is only one place on the planet to find the "good works" God created and instructed man to walk in. His Sabbath is one such work. I know it is common religious tradition to reject it and follow a "work" created by man but the Word expressly teaches against any religion which does this.
1 Cor. 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
1 Cor. 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that (Grace) not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of (Mans) works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
There is only one place on the planet to find the "good works" God created and instructed man to walk in. His Sabbath is one such work. I know it is common religious tradition to reject it and follow a "work" created by man but the Word expressly teaches against any religion which does this.
Galatians 3:10-14
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
2 Corinthians 3:7-11
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
Romans 8:1-2
[SUP]1[/SUP] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Galatians 2:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Why do false religions point back to working at the law? Don't they know we can read?
They have to print their own bibles to twist the meaning of scripture in order to promote their law-keeping false religion.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
2 Corinthians 3:7-11
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
Romans 8:1-2
[SUP]1[/SUP] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Galatians 2:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Why do false religions point back to working at the law? Don't they know we can read?
They have to print their own bibles to twist the meaning of scripture in order to promote their law-keeping false religion.
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Can you show me where my post is Biblically incorrect? Have I said something about the Gospel that isn't true according to the Word?
I find your continual mocking of God's Word's that you don't understand angering. And when I have tried to have a conversation with you about scripture, you keep changing the subject. And when I ask you questions you ignore, deflect and change the subject again.
This tactic of deflecting and ignoring scriptures which bring your religious traditions into question, is very frustrating to me personally. It is widespread to be sure, and I will be the first to say I struggle with dealing with people who purposely deflect to hide what they know can't be supported by scriptures.
This is why I asked you do explain to me how you come by the blood of Jesus and His flesh to eat and drink, which Jesus Himself said was a requirement for Salvation. And you deflect, ignore, and change the subject each time, purposely refusing to engage. This behavior appears dishonest and deceptive in it's intent.
I find your continual mocking of God's Word's that you don't understand angering. And when I have tried to have a conversation with you about scripture, you keep changing the subject. And when I ask you questions you ignore, deflect and change the subject again.
This tactic of deflecting and ignoring scriptures which bring your religious traditions into question, is very frustrating to me personally. It is widespread to be sure, and I will be the first to say I struggle with dealing with people who purposely deflect to hide what they know can't be supported by scriptures.
This is why I asked you do explain to me how you come by the blood of Jesus and His flesh to eat and drink, which Jesus Himself said was a requirement for Salvation. And you deflect, ignore, and change the subject each time, purposely refusing to engage. This behavior appears dishonest and deceptive in it's intent.