GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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PS

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It doesn't matter,
there are many false Gods and Satan has made this the case from the beginning. When the Jews worshiped the false Gods they suffered and that is recorded in the Bible. The same God that Created the world gave the commandments to the Jews, gave visions to John will be the God that comes very shortly to take His children Home. One God from start to finish.

We should all worship that one, unchanging, true God.
This is what I am saying. And it does matter. In this dispensation we should not be following questionable teaching, we should all be following the teaching of Jesus.
 

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Railing against Jews is neither here nor there.
No-one here is an apostate Jew...

Also our theology comes from the Bible itself, none of it was written by apostate Jews.
Every one of its authors was a descendent of an Israelite, from Moses to the Apostle John
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The theology is contradictory. God says to Moses not to Kill, while Moses says God tells him to kill.
 
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The theology is contradictory. God says to Moses not to Kill, while Moses says God tells him to kill.
Not really God's Word is consistent the wages of SIN is death like those in Noah's day and Sodom and Gomorah.

SIN is the transgression or breakin gof God's Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:8-12; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

Start up another thread PS and get more input from the community. Did you want to talk about COL 2? That is what this thread is about.


Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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The theology is contradictory. God says to Moses not to Kill, while Moses says God tells him to kill.
OK, you are confused.
No point in arguing this on this thread.
I leave you to the tender mercies of LGF...
 

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This is what I am saying. And it does matter. In this dispensation we should not be following questionable teaching, we should all be following the teaching of Jesus.
Were the people before the flood (Noah) saved by grace?
Were the people in king Davids day saved by grace?
Were the people just before Jesus died saved by grace?
And are the people that live today saved by grace?
 

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OK, you are confused.
No point in arguing this on this thread.
I leave you to the tender mercies of LGF...
I'm showing you from scripture, while you show nothing except you make an emotional response.

LGF should be teaching from the New Testament.
 

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Were the people before the flood (Noah) saved by grace?
Were the people in king Davids day saved by grace?
Were the people just before Jesus died saved by grace?
And are the people that live today saved by grace?
The Israelites before the flood were destroyed.
All others are saved by faith in God, meaning faith in the true God and not faith in false god's or graven images.
 

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The Israelites before the flood were destroyed.
All others are saved by faith in God, meaning faith in the true God and not faith in false god's or graven images.
You are aware that there were no Israelites before the flood, are you not??
I think you need to clarify your facts, don't you?
 

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You are aware that there were no Israelites before the flood, are you not??
I think you need to clarify your facts, don't you?
The OT is all about the Jews and their ancestors.
 

graceNpeace

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The OT is all about the Jews and their ancestors.
And so is the NT for that matter!
However, there is no mention of the Israelites prior to the book of Exodus.
These details do matter...
And current Jews all trace their ancestry back to the Kingdom of Judah (comprised only of the tribe of Judah, tribe of Benjamin, and a sprinkling of Levites). The Apostle Paul for example was of the tribe of Benjamin....
 

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I mind why sabbatarian like SDA not kill sabbath violator, while bible instruct it
Jesus said let the dead bury the dead. It is the Word that judges and will judge.

They are ready dead. Can't kill that which is not alive.

Happily they do not have to remain so. Choose life and live.
 
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Were the people before the flood (Noah) saved by grace?
Were the people in king Davids day saved by grace?
Were the people just before Jesus died saved by grace?
And are the people that live today saved by grace?
Yes for it is written, "The mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children; For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. The same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."



(Psa 103:17; Mal 3:6; Jas 1:17; Heb 13:8)
 

lightbearer

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2 Corinthians 3:7-8, “But if the administering of death in letters, engraved on stones, was esteemed, so that the children of Yisra’yl were unable to look steadily at the face of Mosheh because of the esteem of his face, which was passing away, how much more esteemed shall the administering of the Spirit not be?”
Hey brother good post. What translation is this?
 

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Jesus said let the dead bury the dead. It is the Word that judges and will judge.

They are ready dead. Can't kill that which is not alive.

Happily they do not have to remain so. Choose life and live.
I do not understand why is this verse stop the instruction to kill sabbath violator