God's Sabbath Rest - Mission Impossible

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Nobody here obeys the Sabbath commands. But many pick the parts they like!
Do you know which Sabbath commandment our LORD gave for us to keep and that if we work on it we will not be accepted by God.
 

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True the flesh is weak but we are asked to live in the Spirit....
But even if the flesh has a big sway in your life and you transgress the and find yourself in bondage to death... Thats when you call for Jesus the solution and He will give you His righteousness to cover yours.

Flesh = sin = death
Law does not change but the solution is Jesus, You don't need to remove the law in order to have Christs righteousness cover you.

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
“Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. ….And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

….Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:

but the righteous into life eternal.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:34-36, 40-46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I wonder why he doesn’t say anything about sin there ? Everyone would be lost if we’re judged by sin , we’re going to be judged by how we treat other people in this world especially those in need when we can help

brotherly love in deed and truth sin is something that we repent of and move on from its Old Testament and has no bearing on eternal judgement

the conclusion of scripture about sin is Thy at all are guilty of it but who’s willing to follow the gospel ?

“But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:22‬ ‭KJV‬

believe what ? The gospel
 

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Do you know which Sabbath commandment our LORD gave for us to keep and that if we work on it we will not be accepted by God.
No Sabbath COMMANDS in the NT. Jesus's disciples worked on the Sabbath. You don't have enough body bags to obey the Sabbath COMMANDS.
 

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No Sabbath COMMANDS in the NT. Jesus's disciples worked on the Sabbath. You don't have enough body bags to obey the Sabbath COMMANDS.
he’s talking about this true sabbath found in Christ

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart:

and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:28-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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he’s talking about this true sabbath found in Christ

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart:

and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:28-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬
And I'm referring to those who preach the Sabbath and don't obey the Sabbath. There are many.
 

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And I'm referring to those who preach the Sabbath and don't obey the Sabbath. There are many.

yeah but he asked about that one in the nt that was his point I was just pointing out that you missed what he has said no offense intended or anything just trying to clarify
 

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yeah but he asked about that one in the nt that was his point I was just pointing out that you missed what he has said no offense intended or anything just trying to clarify
Sabbath was ONLY for Israel. Nobody else.
 

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And I'm referring to those who preach the Sabbath and don't obey the Sabbath. There are many.
and they are most likely talking about the commandment of seventh day sabbath rest

I agree though I’ve never met anyone who actually follows the law concerning the sabbath day.

it would be hard in winter to not stoke a fire or make any food heck this guy just picked up a stick for a fire

“And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.”
‭‭Numbers‬ ‭15:33, 35-36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s just as you already are aware of the tip of the ice burg regarding the sabbath. No one I’ve ever met goes any further than “ I don’t work for money on a sabbath “ but the law is the law as written so all those little commands go into the one Ten Commandment about the sabbath.

Which I think is your point ,it’s not just “ don’t go to your job on Sunday “ it is so much more that’s really unkeepable of someone has a baby of kids pretty hard not to do your daily works.

so please understand I get your point it just seemed you had missed what David was talking about.
 

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Sabbath was ONLY for Israel. Nobody else.
yeah again though he’s talking about Jesus Christ he’s for everyone lol you aren’t hearing but your talking I agree the whole entire law was given specifically to Israel

he’s talking about The true sabbath manifest in Christ but I don’t think your making the connection
 

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yeah again though he’s talking about Jesus Christ he’s for everyone lol you aren’t hearing but your talking I agree the whole entire law was given specifically to Israel

he’s talking about The true sabbath manifest in Christ but I don’t think your making the connection
Are you under the Sabbath COMMANDS? Do you even know? I'm not. I'm a Christian.
 

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Are you under the Sabbath COMMANDS? Do you even know? I'm not. I'm a Christian.
yeah your ears are closed 🤠

absolutely I’m under the sabbath command of Jesus Christ not moses but try to hear

Thy is is the sabbath rest that applies to every Christian even you

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:28-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Right ? That applies to
Me indeed and that is the commandment of God for the sabbath to go learn from Jesus believe his words and find rest for your eternal
Soul

it has nothing to do with what Moses taught in the law but you understand Those things like the sabbath commandment are a pattern witnessing Jesus right ?

Coming to Christ is the sabbath

but again I just saw you werent hearing what he said you were talking about the mosaic law , he was talking about the gospel and the truth of the sabbath
 

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yeah your ears are closed 🤠

absolutely I’m under the sabbath command of Jesus Christ not moses but try to hear

Thy is is the sabbath rest that applies to every Christian even you

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:28-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Right ? That applies to
Me indeed and that is the commandment of God for the sabbath to go learn from Jesus believe his words and find rest for your eternal
Soul

it has nothing to do with what Moses taught in the law but you understand Those things like the sabbath commandment are a pattern witnessing Jesus right ?

Coming to Christ is the sabbath

but again I just saw you werent hearing what he said you were talking about the mosaic law , he was talking about the gospel and the truth of the sabbath
You forgot to quote the "the sabbath command of Jesus Christ".

Colossians 2:16 (NKJV)
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

Amen Jesus! I won't.
 
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No Sabbath COMMANDS in the NT. Jesus's disciples worked on the Sabbath. You don't have enough body bags to obey the Sabbath COMMANDS.
the LORD gave an absolute Sabbath Command and anyone who works on it will not be accepted.

Your challenge is to find that Sabbath REST Commandment.
 
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You forgot to quote the "the sabbath command of Jesus Christ".

Colossians 2:16 (NKJV)
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

Amen Jesus! I won't.
God's Sabbath REST cannot be found in one of the calendar days of the week.
 

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You forgot to quote the "the sabbath command of Jesus Christ".

Colossians 2:16 (NKJV)
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

Amen Jesus! I won't.
And you shouldn’t because your a Christian judged by Jesus Christ !

yeah I was just trying to point you toward what brother David was saying to you because it seemed you were talking about the law of Moses and he was talking of the gospel. It seemed you had a good conversation going but then a mis connection in what he was saying and what you were saying.

and amen not only the sabbath but we aren’t to have anyone judge us by Moses law entirely no command of Moses applies to a Christian but everything Jesus commanded his disciples is the doctrine of God for all nations

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Moses le isn’t without value to us we can learn a lot from it but we should understand it’s not our law it’s value is that it’s a pattern of the true things found in Christ Moses only received an earthly pattern Jesus is the reality the old is a pattern of the new like an obscure blueprint

“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. ( exodus 25:40)

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:1-2, 4-6‬ ‭

the Old Testament can help us learn about Jesus but it’s not applicable as our law by which we are judged our judgement ll be according to Jesus teachings and promises that come along with them like this one

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

or this one

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:51‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Instruction To believe and blessing that is promised

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

all we have to do is believe Jesus and we’re going to be following God
 

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The analogy about Hagar and Sarah is a perfect way of explaining the old and new covenants.

One is the covenant that man tries to do in His own strength (bondage Hagar), The other is the covenant of promise that we accept by faith, (freedom, Sarah). .
You have just wiped out the entire sacrificial system, saying there is no need to give blood on the altar or ask for forgiveness of sin.

There is absolutely no scripture saying that God ever had man earn salvation through being perfect.
 

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Psalm 1 = The Law was given for one purpose = to bring us to Christ = God's Delight and David's Delight. ”
The law is a tool that we are to use and it foes NOT have only one purpose, to be used in only one way. Like any tool, it can be used in many ways. Its use to lead us to Christ is one wonderful way of using the law.

I love the first and the 119th Psalm, telling us of a way to use the law for building good in our lives. The law also tells us what kills.
 

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You have just wiped out the entire sacrificial system, saying there is no need to give blood on the altar or ask for forgiveness of sin.

There is absolutely no scripture saying that God ever had man earn salvation through being perfect.
the law required perfection

“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:10‬ ‭KJV‬

keep it sixty years and one sin makes it all for not it makes you as guilty as anyone else if your under law one transgression makes you a sinner the same as all
 

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Thanks.... never once bothered me nor has the Father, Christ, sweet Holy Spirit that is in me and I am in them ever talked about it like man does. See no offense but its MAN telling MAN what you should be doing on Sabbath. Man telling man what God really meant when He said....... One would think a GOD that spoke His word.. He and He alone would tell His Children what HIs word really means no? I know Him but I don't know any one here as you don't me and GOD never once expects you to ever listen to me :)

To just ASK to get people to study praise GOD! But other then that.. its between them and a GOD not you or me. Some much of this I believe people are missing something. We read study and it just POPS OUT! We now have to tell others what we personally know is true. Yet so many times times.. it was ONLY for you. Did you do it? Are you doing it?

Does it ever bother me what you do about the Sabbath? Never.. I am not your God. What I don't talk about what is in my heart? Are we sharing Jesus? Are we helping each other to witness? We post all this great wonderful stuff but.. where are the "FAITH" learning threads? Where are the witnessing threads? Not the Holy Spirits job..its ours. That bible study when I was 16 was about FAITH and haha they always told me "to witness". How? Just share what Jesus has done for you. I remember at home my sis son.. I was 16 and shared Jesus.. he said it was boring at 1st but.. then wanted to really hear more. Gave his life to Christ.

I pass people ever day.. not saying a word. I don't leave my house asking praying the sweet holy Spirit lead me guide me today.. I don't think every moment every place I go.. it was GOD that lead me there. That silly talk I did with our Father saying.. remember when that pastor came to our door?" (LA) be nice if you did that again...we don't know where to go to Church.

So about a week later at night knock on the door "is so and so home?" Sorry you got the wrong house. As He walks away stops.. "no the lord would not lead me to the wrong house" Comes back hands me a card.. Hes a preacher.. believes the word of GOD. My point is.. would we think GOD lead us to the wrong house? Or ..oops man I got the wrong house kept walking. That pastor? Yeah still has no CLUE what I prayed and GOD answered it.

Sorry.. this is in me.. for me. I am just sharing..NOT Telling anyone anything else. For some reason its HUGE so STRONG in me to witness.. I have not had this desire feeling this strong for YEARS! Something we always should be doing yet.. there is this.. something about to happen.. I don't know.. so pray for me that I listen and ask HIM to lead me to ANYONE everyone to be the one saying " I WILL GO! SEND ME".,..so sorry .. not here to derail..bother I will delete this if it was.
 

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the law required perfection

“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:10‬ ‭KJV‬

keep it sixty years and one sin makes it all for not it makes you as guilty as anyone else if your under law one transgression makes you a sinner the same as all
How could a tool require perfection?

God requires perfection for us to be accepted in the kingdom of God. God gave us Christ, and through Christ's perfection we can achieve the perfection of Christ. We can't boas about our personal perfection, but we can boast about the perfection that is of Christ. It is as if we actually was able to keep the law.