Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

[Shamah]

YHWH created the earth and the Sabbath not Ellen White, who cares about Ellen White..

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.”

Or is this like a ohh Ellen White is a false prophet so I can thow some of my bible away thing?

Also would it be the same to say any who don't honor the 7th day Sabbath follow the Pope?


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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923 - “Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.”


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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons - “Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act...And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Our Sunday Visitor, February 15, 1950 - “Protestants...accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change...But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that...In observing the Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"[/FONT]



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[Shamah]

Any who claim they are "resting in Jesus" are making up their own rest. The rest the Messiah offers is this:



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit: because they will rest from their labors, and their works do follow them!"[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 11:27-30, "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father. And no one fully knows the Son except the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father, except the Son and those whom YHWH wills the Son to reveal. Come to Me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 6:16-17, “Thus said יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “Stand in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where the good way is, and walk in it; and find rest for yourselves[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].” But they said, ‘We do not walk in it.’ “And I raised up watchmen over you, and said, ‘Listen to a voice of the trumpet!’ But they said, ‘We do not listen.’[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[Pythons]

YHWH created the earth and the Sabbath not Ellen White, who cares about Ellen White..

Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.”

Or is this like a ohh Ellen White is a false prophet so I can thow some of my bible away thing?
d will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"

God created the earth and all that is in it & saw that it was good...
...God ceased His work because there was nothing else He needed to do.
..."The state" that followed was "God's Rest" or Sabbath.

The Sabbath wasn't intended to be a recycling period of time...
...It was intended to be a "perpetual state" humanity would live in.
...In any event the Calendar doesn't operate today like it did back then.

 

[Shamah]

God created the earth and all that is in it & saw that it was good...
...God ceased His work because there was nothing else He needed to do.
..."The state" that followed was "God's Rest" or Sabbath.

The Sabbath wasn't intended to be a recycling period of time...
...It was intended to be a "perpetual state" humanity would live in.
...In any event the Calendar doesn't operate today like it did back then.

Do you have Scripturre to support your claims? or is that just opinion?

 

[Pythons]

Do you have Scripturre to support your claims? or is that just opinion?

According to Scripture Adam & Eve were barred from again entering...
...The Garden of Eden - they were expelled from the Garden.
...AFTER expulsion - outside the Garden of Eden observe what God said.

"CURSED is the ground for they sake, in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life"

&

"Thorns ALSO and thistles shalt it [THE GROUND] bring forth to thee..."

&

"In the sweat of they face shalt thou eat break" [ AKA Adam would NOW have to WORK FOR IT ]


Are you suggesting that upon God's completion of His work of Creation...
...That Adam & Eve weeded the Garden & busted sod like a farmer?
...And that after 6 literal days they rested - I hope you're not saying that.

And that the above chronology of time repeated itself every 7 days PRIOR to expulsion from Eden?

Are you?

 

[Shamah]

According to Scripture Adam & Eve were barred from again entering...
...The Garden of Eden - they were expelled from the Garden.
...AFTER expulsion - outside the Garden of Eden observe what God said.

"CURSED is the ground for they sake, in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life"

&

"Thorns ALSO and thistles shalt it [THE GROUND] bring forth to thee..."

&

"In the sweat of they face shalt thou eat break" [ AKA Adam would NOW have to WORK FOR IT ]


Are you suggesting that upon God's completion of His work of Creation...
...That Adam & Eve weeded the Garden & busted sod like a farmer?
...And that after 6 literal days they rested - I hope you're not saying that.

And that the above chronology of time repeated itself every 7 days PRIOR to expulsion from Eden?

Are you?

They were not created until the 6th day. Yah knows the end from the beginning...

What?

...God ceased His work because there was nothing else He needed to do.

Where does it say this is why He ceased from His work?

The Sabbath wasn't intended to be a recycling period of time...

Clarify this, I took it as there was only one Sabbath as in the day Yh rested because you said :

...It was intended to be a "perpetual state" humanity would live in.
...In any event the Calendar doesn't operate today like it did back then.

Yeah actually it operates exactly the same;

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:14, "And the Mighty One said, “Let lights come to be in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and appointed times, and for days and years.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 104:19, "You appointed the moon for setting the appointed times. The sun knows its going down."

only by falsehood do people THINK it has changed;


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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"[/FONT]

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[Pythons]

They were not created until the 6th day. Yah knows the end from the beginning...

So you believe that Adam & Eve were expelled from Eden prior to actually entering the 7th day?

Where does it say this is why He ceased from His work?

"And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made" Genesis 2, 2

Clarify this, I took it as there was only one Sabbath as in the day Yh rested because you said :

Sabbath in Hebrew equates to REST, CEASING...
...God didn't have anything else to create.
...God was DONE.

Thus, this "REST" [man was intended to live in] was to be perpetual...

Yeah actually it operates exactly the same;

Genesis 1:14, "And the Mighty One said, “Let lights come to be in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and appointed times, and for days and years.”


Psalm 104:19, "You appointed the moon for setting the appointed times. The sun knows its going down."

only by falsehood do people THINK it has changed;

Than you agree that the Moon phases dictated WHEN the month would start...
...And that the "days" from the New Moon would counted toward the Feasts.
...IF you agree with this then you've confirmed my point.

Is the Sabbath a Feast according to Scripture or not?
...Do you calculate your observance of Sabbath.
...By the Moon OR Gregorian Calendar?

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"

And the little horn did just that prior to the Birth of Christ.

So, I noticed that you didn't offer any Scripture's suggesting...
...The Bible teaches that Adam sweat, weeded and worked the Garden.
....So that he & Eve would have something to eat.

Or did I miss that?

 

[Shamah]

They were not created until the 6th day. Yah knows the end from the beginning...

What?

Where does it say this is why He ceased from His work?

Clarify this, I took it as there was only one Sabbath as in the day Yh rested because you said :

Yeah actually it operates exactly the same;

Genesis 1:14, "And the Mighty One said, “Let lights come to be in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and appointed times, and for days and years.”

Psalm 104:19, "You appointed the moon for setting the appointed times. The sun knows its going down."

only by falsehood do people THINK it has changed;

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"

So you believe that Adam & Eve were expelled from Eden prior to actually entering the 7th day?

When did I say that? I said:

They were not created until the 6th day. Yah knows the end from the beginning...

They were created the 6th day, how could they be working day 1-6 of creation week.

Are you suggesting that upon God's completion of His work of Creation...
...That Adam & Eve weeded the Garden & busted sod like a farmer?
...And that after 6 literal days they rested - I hope you're not saying that.

Clearly I didnt say that and did not even hint at it.

And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made[/COLOR]" Genesis 2, 2

Sabbath in Hebrew equates to REST, CEASING...
...God didn't have anything else to create.
...God was DONE.

Thus, this "REST" [man was intended to live in] was to be perpetual...

Do you mean as in every Sabbath / 7th day, or every single day of human life?

Than you agree that the Moon phases dictated WHEN the month would start...
...And that the "days" from the New Moon would counted toward the Feasts.
...IF you agree with this then you've confirmed my point.

Is the Sabbath a Feast according to Scripture or not?
...Do you calculate your observance of Sabbath.
...By the Moon OR Gregorian Calendar?

The lunar 7th day Sabbath is not Scriptual. The Feast days are to be by the moon as it is written:


Leviticus 23:27-32, “On the tenth day of this seventh new moon is Yom haKippurim. (Day of Atonement or Day of the Coverings) It shall be a set-apart gathering for you. And you shall afflict your beings, and shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה, And you do no work on that same day, for it is Yom Kippurim, to make atonement for you before יהוה your Strength. For any being who is not afflicted on that same day, he shall be cut off from his people. And any being who does any work on that same day, that being I shall destroy from the midst of his people. You do no work – a law forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings. It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the new moon at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”


Leviticus 23:34-36, “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, saying, ‘On the fifteenth day of this seventh new moon is the Festival of Sukkote for seven days to יהוה. On the first day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work. For seven days you bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. On the eighth day there shall be a set-apart gathering for you, and you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. It is a closing festival, you do no servile work.”

there is not a single Scripture that commands the weekly Sabbath be set by the moon, the week is not set by the moon, the months are and thus the Days of the Feasts. the weekly chain has been unbroken since the days of Yahshua, and Yah set a 7 day week, the gregorian/Babylonian calendar did not.

And the little horn did just that prior to the Birth of Christ.

So, I noticed that you didn't offer any Scripture's suggesting...
...The Bible teaches that Adam sweat, weeded and worked the Garden.
....So that he & Eve would have something to eat.

Or did I miss that?

Yeah because I never said or hinted at that, that was your misunderstanding my post I would assume. I said they were created on the 6th day.

 

[Studyman]

For SDA's (and their many offshoots) Gregorian Saturday Worship...
...Is a matter of salvation, thus, of the utmost importance.
...If you don't conduct Saturday Worship - game over!

The SDA's have a prophet who was named "Ellen White"...
...Ellen allegedly traveled deep into outer space & communed.
...With extraterrestrials who confirmed "the Sabbath truth".

The Aliens gave Ellen their testimony about the Sabbath...
...& also said IF they broke the law of God they would also fall.
...Like the Earth fell [into sin].

The salient part of all this is that IT WAS POSSIBLE the aliens fell into sin....
...Subsequent to their visit with Ellen G. White - and IF that happened.
...It would explain the many U.F.O. sightings that have been reported.

An Alien race with technological understanding far exceeding those of earth...
...Would undoubtedly have the ability of space travel and if for nothing else.
...Would be interested in the natural resources of the earth.
...Such as minerals, water, etc.

I digress, in answer to the Sabbath question the velocity of the teaching...
...Comes by way of confirmation from E.T.'s through Ellen White.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Col. 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

So I don't know any ET's, or your friend Ellen White, therefore I am not one of their disciples. Rather, I strive to by a disciple of Christ so I listen to His Words.

He said:

31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

So I have set out to hear and do those Word's of the Christ instruct.

1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I (Jesus, the Word) am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt,(sin) out of the house of bondage. (deception)

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

So doesn't this mean I should not listen to any other Jesus, or any other religious icon, or ET's??

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

So this isn't ET, or Ellen White or some alien. (well, certainly alien to "many" who come in His Name, not Alien to the Bible)

This was the Word's of the Word who became flesh. This Word was created by Jesus. He did say that I was His Disciple if I continued in His Words, Yes?.


He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

He did say He would grant me the Spirit of Truth if I trusted Him enough to follow His Instructions.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world (those who don't trust You enough to follow your instructions) cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Well I am seeking the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness. AS opposed to aliens or some religious preacher.

Gen 2:3 And God (The Word made Flesh who created "ALL THINGS") blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

He said His Sabbath was "Made for man", I am a man. So I can't see what the big deal is.


But there are people, who seem nice and sincere, who claim a man named Jesus as their Savior, who preach that Jesus, the Word who became Flesh, never commanded us to separate the 7th day of the week He created. What should I think about this?

But the Word who became flesh also warned me of this very thing.

Matt. 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. (Deceive means to convince someone of a lie)

There is only one "group" of people on the planet that "comes in Christ's name" that preach Jesus is truly the Messiah, and that group is not the Jews, not Islam, not Atheists, but "Christianity".

So Jesus as the Word before becoming Flesh, created a commandment for me, yet there are people who would convince me that this is no longer His Word. That there is a New Jesus who preaches we are not to separate this day of the week unto Him. "Many" preach there is no longer a Sabbath, "Many" also preach the Sabbath has changed to couple of hours in the middle of another day. And some even preach that we are to treat every day as a Sabbath.


But I have already been warned of this very thing, therefore when it came, I knew what to do and who to trust.

Thank you Lord Jesus, whose Wisdom and Mercy knows no bounds, for your Sabbath today. That you may show your Wisdom and perfection in the fulfillment of your warnings. And that by trusting You enough to follow Your easy, just, and good instructions, we might also benefit from your promise to grant us the Spirit of Truth.

 

[lightbearer]

Romans 11 v. 20 - .. they were broken off by unbelief and you were grafted in by faith.... v. 22... if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in again...

.

What is unbelief?

 

[Pythons]

When did I say that? I said:



They were created the 6th day, how could they be working day 1-6 of creation week.



Clearly I didnt say that and did not even hint at it.

IF you believe that Adam & Eve were in the Garden of Eden longer than a literal week...
...By default you would believe that - would you not?
...What's the minimum time you believe they were there.
...Prior to being expelled?

Do you mean as in every Sabbath / 7th day, or every single day of human life?

I'm saying Eden was, in total, a work of God...
...And that it was lacking in NOTHING at all.
...Our 1st Parents were to live in it PERPETUALLY.

I.E. it was to be a STATE OF BEING [living in God's Rest] PERPETUALLY.

The lunar 7th day Sabbath is not Scriptual. The Feast days are to be by the moon as it is written:


Leviticus 23:27-32, “On the tenth day of this seventh new moon is Yom haKippurim. (Day of Atonement or Day of the Coverings) It shall be a set-apart gathering for you. And you shall afflict your beings, and shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה, And you do no work on that same day, for it is Yom Kippurim, to make atonement for you before יהוה your Strength. For any being who is not afflicted on that same day, he shall be cut off from his people. And any being who does any work on that same day, that being I shall destroy from the midst of his people. You do no work – a law forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings. It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the new moon at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”

1st,

Leviticus 23, 2 clearly has God saying: "Even THESE are my Feasts"...
...And the very first feast mentioned IS the weekly Sabbath.
...Probably why the Jews still call the Sabbath the 1st of Feasts.

Secondly,

Note that the Day of Atonement is the ONLY Feast...
...Who's celebration started the EVENING PRIOR.
..."IT" [D.O.A.] started the evening of the 9th day.

"Babylonian Talmudic Teaching" started the Tradition...
...Of "starting" the observation of the weekly Sabbath.
...On the evening of the 6th day.

Leviticus 23:34-36, “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, saying, ‘On the fifteenth day of this seventh new moon is the Festival of Sukkote for seven days to יהוה. On the first day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work. For seven days you bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. On the eighth day there shall be a set-apart gathering for you, and you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. It is a closing festival, you do no servile work.”

there is not a single Scripture that commands the weekly Sabbath be set by the moon, the week is not set by the moon, the months are and thus the Days of the Feasts. the weekly chain has been unbroken since the days of Yahshua, and Yah set a 7 day week, the gregorian/Babylonian calendar did not.

That's not what you said previously now is it.

YOU quoted Ps 104, 19 in post #1026 which has God...
...Saying that the Moon was for appointed times?
....Are you saying that the Sabbath is NOT the first Feast?
...Are you saying the Sabbath isn't an appointed time?

Yeah because I never said or hinted at that, that was your misunderstanding my post I would assume. I said they were created on the 6th day.

Ok, so you agree that Adam and Eve were not living in the Garden of Eden longer than a 7 day Planetary week?

 

[Pythons]

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Col. 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

So I don't know any ET's, or your friend Ellen White, therefore I am not one of their disciples. Rather, I strive to by a disciple of Christ so I listen to His Words.

He said:

31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

So I have set out to hear and do those Word's of the Christ instruct.

1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I (Jesus, the Word) am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt,(sin) out of the house of bondage. (deception)

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

So doesn't this mean I should not listen to any other Jesus, or any other religious icon, or ET's??

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

So this isn't ET, or Ellen White or some alien. (well, certainly alien to "many" who come in His Name, not Alien to the Bible)

This was the Word's of the Word who became flesh. This Word was created by Jesus. He did say that I was His Disciple if I continued in His Words, Yes?.


He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

He did say He would grant me the Spirit of Truth if I trusted Him enough to follow His Instructions.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world (those who don't trust You enough to follow your instructions) cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Well I am seeking the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness. AS opposed to aliens or some religious preacher.

Gen 2:3 And God (The Word made Flesh who created "ALL THINGS") blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

He said His Sabbath was "Made for man", I am a man. So I can't see what the big deal is.


But there are people, who seem nice and sincere, who claim a man named Jesus as their Savior, who preach that Jesus, the Word who became Flesh, never commanded us to separate the 7th day of the week He created. What should I think about this?

But the Word who became flesh also warned me of this very thing.

Matt. 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. (Deceive means to convince someone of a lie)

There is only one "group" of people on the planet that "comes in Christ's name" that preach Jesus is truly the Messiah, and that group is not the Jews, not Islam, not Atheists, but "Christianity".

So Jesus as the Word before becoming Flesh, created a commandment for me, yet there are people who would convince me that this is no longer His Word. That there is a New Jesus who preaches we are not to separate this day of the week unto Him. "Many" preach there is no longer a Sabbath, "Many" also preach the Sabbath has changed to couple of hours in the middle of another day. And some even preach that we are to treat every day as a Sabbath.


But I have already been warned of this very thing, therefore when it came, I knew what to do and who to trust.

Thank you Lord Jesus, whose Wisdom and Mercy knows no bounds, for your Sabbath today. That you may show your Wisdom and perfection in the fulfillment of your warnings. And that by trusting You enough to follow Your easy, just, and good instructions, we might also benefit from your promise to grant us the Spirit of Truth.

Studyman,

I'm not SDA nor do I have any knowledge of E.T.'s. I'm just familiar with SDA arguments pertaining to the Sabbath and Father Flesh God teachings.

Perhaps you should read posts a little slower prior to commenting.

 

[Ariel82]

Spiritual things must manifest themselves in the world in order for ones light to shine. We are not suppose to be like the world. We should be an abomination to the world as the world is an abomination to us. Not like them in any manner. That is what God tried to get through to the Isrealites head, but they fought back.. A perculiar people like none other.

Yeah....just like getting people to see the spiritual meaning of The Sabbath is trusting God to provide food and clothes and that we should...

SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN...

Not by ritual observances but good works of preaching the gospel, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting prisoners, orphans and widows, etc.

Folks would rather follow the letter of the law and not,the Spirit of God.

 

[prove-all]

then the fifth year, the year of Jubilee to freed slaves ...

You really should go read your bible , and quite making things up as you go along.
Because you are blind it seems- You can start with Gods true Sabbaths in Leviticus

The Year of the Jubilee Leviticus 25:8-12

Year of Jubilee meaning

Jubilee(noun) every fiftieth year, being the year following the completion of each seventh
sabbath of years, at which time all the slaves of Hebrew blood were liberated, and all lands
which had been alienated during the whole period reverted to their former owners.

 

[Ariel82]

Yeah a typo, my apologies.

Doesn't change the point being made, just shows that I am human.

God's Sabbath is not just about weekly observances but have a deeper spiritual meaning that the children of Hagar reject.

 

[Shamah]

IF you believe that Adam & Eve were in the Garden of Eden longer than a literal week...
...By default you would believe that - would you not?
...What's the minimum time you believe they were there.
...Prior to being expelled?



I'm saying Eden was, in total, a work of God...
...And that it was lacking in NOTHING at all.
...Our 1st Parents were to live in it PERPETUALLY.

I.E. it was to be a STATE OF BEING [living in God's Rest] PERPETUALLY.




1st,

Leviticus 23, 2 clearly has God saying: "Even THESE are my Feasts"...
...And the very first feast mentioned IS the weekly Sabbath.
...Probably why the Jews still call the Sabbath the 1st of Feasts.

Secondly,

Note that the Day of Atonement is the ONLY Feast...
...Who's celebration started the EVENING PRIOR.
..."IT" [D.O.A.] started the evening of the 9th day.

"Babylonian Talmudic Teaching" started the Tradition...
...Of "starting" the observation of the weekly Sabbath.
...On the evening of the 6th day.



That's not what you said previously now is it.

YOU quoted Ps 104, 19 in post #1026 which has God...
...Saying that the Moon was for appointed times?
....Are you saying that the Sabbath is NOT the first Feast?
...Are you saying the Sabbath isn't an appointed time?




Ok, so you agree that Adam and Eve were not living in the Garden of Eden longer than a 7 day Planetary week?

NO I spoke correctly I did not fully explain.

The Sabbath is a moadim/appointed time, however it is not set by the moon phase, it starts and ends when the sun goes down;

Psalm 104:19, "You appointed the moon for setting the appointed times. The sun knows its going down."

the week is not set by the moon.

the months are.

The 7th day Sabbath is not one of YHWH's Feast days, in Yahshua's time they were called;

Sabbath (weekly)

and

High Sabbath (7 Feast days)

and no creation was 7 days;


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1:5, "And Elohim called the light ‘day’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, one day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1:8, "And Elohim called the expanse ‘heavens.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the second day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1:13, "And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the third day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1:19, "And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the fourth day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1:23, "And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the fifth day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1:31, "And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the sixth day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2:3, "And Elohim blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which Elohim in creating had made."[/FONT]


If it were longer Adam having been created on the 6th day would have a way longer life span.

Genesis 5:5
Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.


if weach day was 1,00 yeas Adam would be 1,930 years old when he died, he was not.

 

[Ariel82]

Jesus declared himself the Messiah when He read the book of Isaiah and proclaimed that the year of Jubilee was upon them.

Jesus replaced the Old Covenant with the New, yet people prefer the Old wine.

 

[Shamah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 John 1:9-11, “Everyone who is transgressing and not staying in the teaching of Messiah does not possess YHWH The one who stays in the teaching of Messiah possesses both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house nor greet him, for he who greets him shares in his wicked works.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 4:23-26, “But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also does seek such to worship Him. YHWH is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth. The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming, the One who is called Christ. When that One comes, He shall tell us all things.” יהושע said to her, “I who am speaking to you is He.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 118:19-22, “Open to me the gates of righteousness; I enter through them, I thank Yah. This is the gate of יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], The righteous enter through it. I thank You, For You have answered me, And have become my salvation. The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner-stone.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 10:9, “I am the door. Whoever enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and shall go out and find pasture.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]door” is word #2374 - thura: a door, Original Word: θύρα, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: thura, Phonetic Spelling: (thoo'-rah), Short Definition: a door, opportunity, Definition: (a) a door, (b) met: an opportunity.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:13-14, “Enter in through the narrow gate! Because the gate is wide – and the way is broad – that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter in through it. Because the gate is narrow and the way is hard pressed which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]gate” is word # 4439 - pulé: a gate, Original Word: πύλη, ης, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: pulé, Phonetic Spelling: (poo'-lay), Short Definition: a door, gate, Definition: a gate.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:24-27, “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.” [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 13:35, “By this shall all know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 – poimén)."[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 3:4, “And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do right on the Sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isayah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from doing any evil. And let not the son of the gentile who has joined himself to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]speak, saying, ‘[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has certainly separated me from His people,’ nor let the eunuch say, ‘Look I am a dry tree.’ For thus said [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “To the eunuchs who guard My Sabbaths, and have chosen what pleases Me, and are holding onto My covenant: to them I shall give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters – I give them an everlasting name that is not cut off. Also the sons of the gentile who join themselves to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to serve Him, and to love the Name of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to be His servants, all who guard the Sabbath, and not profane it, and are holding onto My covenant, them I shall bring to My set-apart mountain, and let them rejoice in My house of prayer. Their ascending offerings and their sacrifices are accepted on My altar, for My house is called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”


[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…" [/FONT]




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[Studyman]

Studyman,

I'm not SDA nor do I have any knowledge of E.T.'s. I'm just familiar with SDA arguments pertaining to the Sabbath and Father Flesh God teachings.

Perhaps you should read posts a little slower prior to commenting.

For SDA's (and their many offshoots) Gregorian Saturday Worship...
...Is a matter of salvation, thus, of the utmost importance.
...If you don't conduct Saturday Worship - game over!

The SDA's have a prophet who was named "Ellen White"...
...Ellen allegedly traveled deep into outer space & communed.
...With extraterrestrials who confirmed "the Sabbath truth".

The Aliens gave Ellen their testimony about the Sabbath...
...& also said IF they broke the law of God they would also fall.
...Like the Earth fell [into sin].

The salient part of all this is that IT WAS POSSIBLE the aliens fell into sin....
...Subsequent to their visit with Ellen G. White - and IF that happened.
...It would explain the many U.F.O. sightings that have been reported.

An Alien race with technological understanding far exceeding those of earth...
...Would undoubtedly have the ability of space travel and if for nothing else.
...Would be interested in the natural resources of the earth.
...Such as minerals, water, etc.

I digress, in answer to the Sabbath question the velocity of the teaching...
...Comes by way of confirmation from E.T.'s through Ellen White.

I don't know of this Prophet of which you speak nor of the revelations she received from ET"s. I'm not SDA either, but you have way more understanding of this preacher than I do.

I was giving an overview of what I believe and why regarding the Sabbath, which is the topic of this thread.

I find that ET"s or space ships or words from some obscure preachers are totally irrelevant to the thread and certainly doesn't influence me as it seems to have influenced you.

If I missed the point of your post, forgive me.

 

[prove-all]

Jesus declared himself the Messiah when He read
the book of Isaiah and proclaimed that the year of Jubilee was upon them.

Go back and finish reading Isaiah, you will see he has not given us our rest yet.
Here is future verses that people reject,

And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,”
says the Lord.

The time is the Millennium. “And the [Eternal] shall be king over all the earth:
the time when “living waters”—salvation, the Holy Spirit—“shall go out from Jerusalem

nations will be forced to keep the Feast of Tabernacles, from year to year,
when Christ is ruling with a rod of iron! no rain for punishment.