Good Friday?

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john832

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Jesus Died before sun down friday Day1 , friday night saturday day2, Saturday night day 3.

This has been the tradition since the days of the apostles.
This has been the tradition since Constantine in 325AD.
 

john832

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Died Friday, April 3,33ad, resurrected Sunday, April 5, 33ad 3,4,5.

Your belief in some satanic conspiracy has nothing to do with reality, knowing the day that Christ was crucified is not necessary for salvation. Calling the Church satanic is more of a problem you have than knowing the day Christ was crucified.
blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is dangerous territory as you should well know.

just a thought.
Nope, He died on Wednesday, April 25, 31AD and was buried just at/about sunset. Rose on Sabbath afternoon, April 28, 31AD. Went to the Father to present Himself as the perfect Sacrifice (Wave Sheaf Lev 23:9-14) the next morning at/about 9:00AM on Sunday, April 29, 31AD.
 

john832

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The theory doesn't produce enough nights.

Friday night
Saturday night

That's one night short of the three necessary to fulfill Matt 12:40

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Think that's bad, it only produces 1 day instead of 3.
 

john832

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I agree 100% of what you written in blue here.

Mary went to buy spices and prepare them after the Sabbath. This is can only be after the High Sabbath and not the Saturday Sabbath. There would have been no time for her to buy and prepare spices on Sunday morning and still arrive early at the tomb while it was still dark out. It also seems unlikely she would buy and prepare these spices at night, either.
Not sure about 30AD. I do know that Nisan 14 was on Wednesday in 31AD. At any rate, the Passover (Abib/Nisan 14) had to occur on a Wednesday and that rules out most of the years around 31AD.
 

john832

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Christ died on Passover. He was arrested that night and died on the same day (remember, the Jewish day starts again at sundown). He then rose three days later.

Find when Passover is on the Hebrew Calendar, add three days, and you have the day Christ rose.

That being said, we celebrate the Lord's death until He comes again each time we partake in the Lord's Supper/Communion.
The Lord's Supper? The only place in scripture that term is used, we are admonished NOT to keep it...

1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.
 

john832

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In addition, Mark 16:1 says the two Mary's and Salome bought spices after the Sabbath. This was on Friday. For Thursday was a High Sabbath (i.e. the 15th or the Feast of Unleavened Bread). The other women brought spices on Sunday after Jesus was already risen (For His resurrection took place on the Saturday Sabbath).
Jason, you have the correct understanding here.
 

john832

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he's 71 years old, perhaps, and , well..... i think the posts he comes up with for 'lessons' come from a pamphlet or booklet or source not revealed......
They don't look original, the appear to be C&P.
 

WebersHome

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I don't think The Church ever meant for Good Friday to be historically
accurate; but rather, simply convenient for both the laity and the hierarchy.
The thing is: according to Ex 12::1-20, Passover and the Feast Of
Unleavened Bread are joined at the hip. In point of fact, Passover is
supposed to be eaten on the very first night of the feast. Well; according to
Ex 12:16, that night is a sabbath; meaning of course that Passover is a
sabbath too; and I sincerely believe it would mess with people's heads were
the Church to attempt to explain the ramifications of that to the average
rank and file pew warmer who knows little to nothing about Jewish holy
days.

The trickiest part of the explanation would involve the timing of the weekly
seventh-day sabbath relative to the feast's special sabbath because it just so
happens that a regular seventh-day sabbath, and a special sabbath are in
such close proximity crucifixion week that it's very easy to mistake them as
one and the same Sabbath.

Consecutive sabbaths like that happen on occasion due to Yom Kippur, the
Feast of Trumpets, and the Feast of Unleavened Bread being floating holy
days; thus requiring pious Jews to observe two sabbaths in a row the years
when special sabbaths run back to back with a weekly seventh-day sabbath.

Another difficulty associated with explaining the chronology of crucifixion
week is that the Lord's religious calendar was running a day ahead of the
local religious calendar. In other words; from the local perspective, Jesus ate
his pesach too soon; but the reality is; the locals ate theirs late. Jesus being
a prophet in direct contact with God would of course know the correct date
better than they would.

So then; according to the correct religious calendar, Jesus was crucified on
the very first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread; which his accusers
wanted very much to avoid.

†. Matt 26:3-5 . .Then the chief priests and the elders of the people
assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and
they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him. But not during the
Feast-- they said --or there may be a riot among the people.

Apparently it was God's wishes that His son be crucified on the very first day
of the feast; so it was necessary to allow the Jews to think they had a day to
go before the feast commenced or they wouldn't have crucified him on time.

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WebersHome

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Coincidentally, the day that Christ was crucified was the day that the Jews
were preparing for their own Passover meal by slaughtering lambs in the
afternoon and roasting them ready to eat by sundown (John 19:14, John
19:31 & John 19:42). Perfect timing. They killed their lambs, and the lamb
of God, both on the same day.

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john832

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Coincidentally, the day that Christ was crucified was the day that the Jews
were preparing for their own Passover meal by slaughtering lambs in the
afternoon and roasting them ready to eat by sundown (John 19:14, John
19:31 & John 19:42). Perfect timing. They killed their lambs, and the lamb
of God, both on the same day.

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What do you mean "coincidentally"? What do you think the Passover was instituted for back in Ex 12? It looked ahead to the Sacrifice of Christ. Pharaoh was a type of Satan, Egypt was type of sin and the lamb was a type of Christ. The exodus was a type of our deliverance from sin and the crossing of the Red Sea was a type of baptism...

1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
1Co 10:5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
1Co 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
1Co 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
1Co 10:8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
1Co 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
1Co 10:10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
 
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71 years old..... and mislead for all or most of those years.... all we can do is pray.

so many old people likewise, multitudes mislead, down the wide road........ not good.... no, not good.

there's not nearly enough laborers for the harvest, humanly speaking,

and a lot of those who could be saved, like when yahshua said of jerusalem he greatly desired to

draw them under his wings (HIS ACTION, HIS SALVATION, HIS DOING if they let him)

but in his word "they would not".... ...... --------------- they refused him. they rejected him.

"not many" in the ekklesia born again believers....

"not many" does NOT MEAN NONE --- so , whosoever will, yahweh granting mercy, may come to him

and be saved by him. "who-so-ever WILL"....... yes..... not those "who will not".....
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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The Lord's Supper? The only place in scripture that term is used, we are admonished NOT to keep it...

1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.
actually...

luke 22:19..."And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, 'This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.'"

1 corinthians 11:23-25..."For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, 'This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.' In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, 'This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.'"

this is a -direct command- from jesus christ...and john832 openly advocates for disobeying him...

wolf alert!
 
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actually...

luke 22:19..."And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, 'This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.'"

1 corinthians 11:23-25..."For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, 'This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.' In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, 'This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.'"

this is a -direct command- from jesus christ...and john832 openly advocates for disobeying him...

wolf alert!
and also.......

1 Corinthians 11:26
For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
 

WebersHome

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It's tempting to count the afternoon of Christ's burial as one of the days as
per Matt 12:40 and John 2:19-22, but don't do it. Wait until the Jews'
preparation for Passover comes to an end and they're ready to dine upon
their lambs before starting tally the days and nights or your chronology
won't come out right. It's essential to leave crucifixion day set aside for the
slaughtering of lambs; including the one on the cross.

Avoid counting the three hours of darkness on the cross as one of the
nights. That won't work because Christ lived all the way through it. The
three days and nights predicted in Matt 12:40 are for when he was dead and
in the heart of the earth; not for when he was alive on the surface of the
earth.

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