Grace alone or grace plus works?
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New creations indeed.
A new heart
Ezekiel 36:26-27
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.
A new heart he has given us, it is he who causes to walk after him.
As a result of this even when we get it wrong we know it is wrong.
A new heart that hates it when we get it wrong and cry out to him.
We see sin in a different light and do not want it.
Sin is darkness but the Holy Spirit brings it into the light.
And even though we struggle we know the light.
What is the law?
To me it’s the law of love.
We love God and we love others. Our neighbours and even our enemies.
As we walk in that we decrease and Jesus increases and others see it.
Surely if they see then they want is.
The love of Jesus is needed today just as much as it was needed when he walked the earth.
What comes out of our hearts, words
Psalms 40:3
3 He has put a new song in my mouth—
Praise to our God;
Many will see it and fear,
And will trust in the Lord.
May those God has given us to walk with, hear the words of Jesus in our heart which accompany our actions.
A new heart
Ezekiel 36:26-27
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.
A new heart he has given us, it is he who causes to walk after him.
As a result of this even when we get it wrong we know it is wrong.
A new heart that hates it when we get it wrong and cry out to him.
We see sin in a different light and do not want it.
Sin is darkness but the Holy Spirit brings it into the light.
And even though we struggle we know the light.
What is the law?
To me it’s the law of love.
We love God and we love others. Our neighbours and even our enemies.
As we walk in that we decrease and Jesus increases and others see it.
Surely if they see then they want is.
The love of Jesus is needed today just as much as it was needed when he walked the earth.
What comes out of our hearts, words
Psalms 40:3
3 He has put a new song in my mouth—
Praise to our God;
Many will see it and fear,
And will trust in the Lord.
May those God has given us to walk with, hear the words of Jesus in our heart which accompany our actions.
I think that is why it is important that we all work on our own personal relationship and know him for ourselves. If we have faith in God he is faithful and I don't think he will let us be deceived. So we have to trust in Jesus and seek him, because after all he is the author and finisher or our faith.
John146.
You have asked a great question and I am glad you have asked it.
I have to be honest I have been so frightened of falling foul of that question.
I spent many years and turmoil of not sharing what I feel to be correct.
I spent many many years of researching scripture and both sides of the equation concerning understanding of scripture.
I backed off from discipleship.
One day I was pulled aside by my pastor and he asked me to lead a ministry of discipleship, for new believers and those seeking Jesus.
I said no to start with and explained why. And the reason why is exactly your question “What if the new beliver gets under false preaching”
I was so frightened of standing before God and hearing him say “You false preacher you led a brother astray”
My pastor said to me “There is one thing that is apparent, and it’s apparent becuase so many people have said to me that you are walking with them and loving them (to be honest I had to scratch my head and think who) you are already preaching in a sense. What is apparent is that you are preaching Jesus and encouraging people to seek Jesus.
That is what God will look at.
God will look at our hearts when we disciple people.
If a new believe has no discipleship to grow God will look at their heart.
You have asked a great question and I am glad you have asked it.
I have to be honest I have been so frightened of falling foul of that question.
I spent many years and turmoil of not sharing what I feel to be correct.
I spent many many years of researching scripture and both sides of the equation concerning understanding of scripture.
I backed off from discipleship.
One day I was pulled aside by my pastor and he asked me to lead a ministry of discipleship, for new believers and those seeking Jesus.
I said no to start with and explained why. And the reason why is exactly your question “What if the new beliver gets under false preaching”
I was so frightened of standing before God and hearing him say “You false preacher you led a brother astray”
My pastor said to me “There is one thing that is apparent, and it’s apparent becuase so many people have said to me that you are walking with them and loving them (to be honest I had to scratch my head and think who) you are already preaching in a sense. What is apparent is that you are preaching Jesus and encouraging people to seek Jesus.
That is what God will look at.
God will look at our hearts when we disciple people.
If a new believe has no discipleship to grow God will look at their heart.
how do you know It is genuine?
John 15
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Jesus Said a branch can not bear fruit of Itself fruit of Holy Spirit is love (agape), It mean It is impossible for non believer to produce real love (Love in God quality standart)
John 15
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Jesus Said a branch can not bear fruit of Itself fruit of Holy Spirit is love (agape), It mean It is impossible for non believer to produce real love (Love in God quality standart)
Yes, I know people can be deceived by other people (false preachers, false prophets, false teachers... etc), but what I am saying is that we are not supposed to solely lean on other people for preaching and teaching . We are to look unto God. God leads us and guides us. If we seek God and have a personal relationship with him then he teaches us, leads us, and guides us.
God looks on the heart of all men and we are only held accountable by what we know. I think we grow in knowledge through having a personal relationship with the Lord by reading and studying his word, praying, and walking with him daily. And yes we can learn from others but we shouldn't totally depend on anyone else for the truth but God because all men can make mistakes.
God looks on the heart of all men and we are only held accountable by what we know. I think we grow in knowledge through having a personal relationship with the Lord by reading and studying his word, praying, and walking with him daily. And yes we can learn from others but we shouldn't totally depend on anyone else for the truth but God because all men can make mistakes.