Grace ONLY thread.

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JaumeJ

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The commandments on love first ame in the law, the two great laws of love. These are a command, but with grace and with all oof the law writtenin our inward parts we are no longer obliged to love, we love of our own accord, yet the laws are in existence to this day. Those who have come to Jesus Christ know this, they love, and they obey for disobedience is regarde by our Father as witch craft. Please, if you love Jesus Chrsit, do not teach agains the law; He did not.
 

gb9

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o.k. not going to start up the endless grace vs law argument. if you want to consider yourself still bound to the O.T. law, go ahead. always wonder how you guys pick which of the 600 some-odd to follow. but why can't you leave the rest of us alone???
 
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Amen. You guys start a law only thread and then you can boast all you want about your legalism! This is a thread to bring glory and praise to His Grace!
 
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Mitspa

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Eph 4:29. Let no worthless communication proceed from your mouth; but that which is good and edifies that it might minister GRACE to the hearer.
 
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The commandments on love first ame in the law, the two great laws of love. These are a command, but with grace and with all oof the law writtenin our inward parts we are no longer obliged to love, we love of our own accord, yet the laws are in existence to this day. Those who have come to Jesus Christ know this, they love, and they obey for disobedience is regarde by our Father as witch craft. Please, if you love Jesus Chrsit, do not teach agains the law; He did not.
Isaiah 49: The Servant, the Light to the Gentiles


6 He says, "It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also make You a light of the nations
So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth."nasb


6 he says:
"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth." esv

6 Indeed He says,
' It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob,
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earthes nkiv


.21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.Galatians 2
 

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God placed His Word upon me this morning as He awakened me with a fingertip of love.

Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

Thank you so much, Father! Thank you!
 

JaumeJ

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Gracce without obedience to the spiritual understanding of law is license. There is no reference anywhere to being obliged by the law, however there is reference to understanding what Messiah teaches all.............. Again, knowing the difference is peace.
 

gb9

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and again I say: why does anyone assume that when someone talks about the grace of God, that we are saying it is o.k not to obey. you are making connections that are not there.
 

gb9

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i'll answer my own question: their are too many Christians that if they do not hear their words or their beliefs repeated back to them, they cry fowl.
 

Utah

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and again I say: why does anyone assume that when someone talks about the grace of God, that we are saying it is o.k not to obey. you are making connections that are not there.
Thank you! My sentiments exactly.
 

JaumeJ

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Amen. You guys start a law only thread and then you can boast all you want about your legalism! This is a thread to bring glory and praise to His Grace!
and again I say: why does anyone assume that when someone talks about the grace of God, that we are saying it is o.k not to obey. you are making connections that are not there.
i'll answer my own question: their are too many Christians that if they do not hear their words or their beliefs repeated back to them, they cry fowl.
Whenever I have indicated the law used lawfully is extant and is perfectly compatible with grace, actually, inseparable, I get the legalist charge, and I am told I aam "bound to the law."

It is my duty according to the law of love to never allow myself to fatigue of sharing the truth.

Again,grace does not teach against the law, it teaches the curse of the law, death, has been defeated for all who love the Lord in spirit and truth. It is not truth to teach agains sthe law itself, only that the curse has been destroyed by the cross.

I do not cry chicken or foul, but I will cry out in the to any whose understanding is darkened by grace without holy works or grace without the law as Jesus Christ has taught His chyildren.

Yes, grace covers all sin. Sin is still breaking the law. You and I are not yet perfected, so we must go by our new spiritual understanding of the law and as taught by Jesus Christ, Who never taugth against the law.
 

john832

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and again I say: why does anyone assume that when someone talks about the grace of God, that we are saying it is o.k not to obey. you are making connections that are not there.
Obey what?
 
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Sirk

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the law of love.

Love God
Love your neighbor (anyone you come in contact with)

that is literally all we have to do. A side note...it is really enjoyable when you are successful in loving someone who doesn't love you back.
 
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Amen. You guys start a law only thread and then you can boast all you want about your legalism! This is a thread to bring glory and praise to His Grace!
Maybe if you write a law that commands them to start their own thread they might actually OBEY it...especially if you tie it to grace/faith for salvation................. ;)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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that is literally all we have to do. A side note...it is really enjoyable when you are successful in loving someone who doesn't love you back.
gives us a taste of the love God has for us.
 

Hizikyah

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Love is the key component of mercy (grace) and the Instructions, yet we are given the reason why love will/is growing cold;

Matt 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

So we have been given this amazing mercy (grace) to lead us toward loving the Most High and loving each other, yet love is still growing cold, for us to continue in mercy (grace) I think it important that we walk in that love, that mercy (grace) may truly abound.

Can mercy (grace) and iniquity live together? Yet why is it that many of those who focus on grace call anything but iniquity legalism?

This is a real question concerning mercy (grace).
 
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But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. Genesis 6:8
 
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For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly...Psalm 84:11
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Love is the key component of mercy (grace) and the Instructions, yet we are given the reason why love will/is growing cold;

Matt 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

So we have been given this amazing mercy (grace) to lead us toward loving the Most High and loving each other, yet love is still growing cold, for us to continue in mercy (grace) I think it important that we walk in that love, that mercy (grace) may truly abound.

Can mercy (grace) and iniquity live together? Yet why is it that many of those who focus on grace call anything but iniquity legalism?

legalism is trying to be good by using a set of legal rules. a means of receiving mercy based on self effort, and not admitting your unworthy of any mercy whatsoever in any moment of life.

Your right, love and iniquity can not abound.

Love does not sin against the one you love, it is not self focused. thus will always be giving.


On does not need a list of legal rules and guidelines to follow when you are in a state of love, for love does not break the law. it is how it is fulfilled.