Has the pre trib rapture belief alienated a whole group of people against each other

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No when tribulation comes it will be how it's always been, God will ensure his children are not touched by his wrath, there is countless insertions in our bible of Gods children not being touched when God has set wrath on earth.
I do NOT believe in a pre-trib rapture, but I also believe that we will be taken out before the wrath of God is unleashed upon this world. Do not confuse this wrath with the tribulation. I believe the church will be here during the tribulation. The wrath of God happens at the end. The church will be removed just prior to the outpouring of God's wrath. The pre-trib rapture theory is one of the biggest deceptions of our time. It leads people to believe that if they screwed up and are left behind, there is still a second chance to repent. No way, Hosea. The great day of the Lord is one event. Why would God give so many warnings for the end if we won't even be here?
 

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To incorporate the PT rapture, one must twist so many Bible verses into a pretzel
'PT' rapture?

Pre-Trib
Post-Trib

Just be aware that 'PT' does not narrow it down quite enough... ;)
 

Zandar

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define tribulation in this context of pre vs post
 

GaryA

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I was referring to pre-trib. sorry
I could make an educated quess after reading your next post (#201); however, by itself - I can imagine how it might confuse folks...

No real harm done.

Just a "heads up"... ;)

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Zandar

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it should be called , pre666 or post666, or maybe premark or postmark.
 
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define tribulation in this context of pre vs post
Generally speaking, I am referring to the time period when the antichrist and beast system rises to their reign of terror over the Christians, and the mark becomes the mandatory option to death.
 

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Does Jesus talk to His decuples about The Great Tribulation?
 

Zandar

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daninny ive studied a little on this . in greek they used numerology. the names for numbers were names of objects so if a tree was a one then if your name was tree then your name could also mean one. so. 666. there was three names involved in making 666 but they were shortened so the original names have been lost in time
 
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Does Jesus talk to His decuples about The Great Tribulation?
I think the most memorable time was in Matthew 24. Read it through. Sounds a bit like something we are coming into.
 

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when erasmus put the nt greek version back together he wrote the new greek numbers for 666. so we have no idea what the real name is
 

Zandar

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if someone has the original greek names for 600, 60, and 6 it would be interesting to see what the real name of the man of sin is
 

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I think the most memorable time was in Matthew 24. Read it through. Sounds a bit like something we are coming into.
read it carefully it does not say The great tribulation.
 
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when erasmus put the nt greek version back together he wrote the new greek numbers for 666. so we have no idea what the real name is
We do know that when the UPC codes started, there were a few versions, and each was based on the structure of 666 right in the bar code. I think the qr codes are the same with a digital 6 in three corners, though I do not know this for a fact. I believe it has something to do with computer code.
 

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eerie isnt it. seems like i remember early recycle symbols were arranged 6s