Have The 10 Commandments Been Abolished?
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Actually shamah has given you a boatload of Scriptures to think upon and digest. But let us take this beyond those Scriptures.
Once Christians understand that the Ten Commandments are actually a revelation of the character of God -- His absolute righteousness and holiness -- everything else falls into place. Hence they could be condensed into the Law of Love (because God is Love) by Christ.
Did God created mankind in the image and likeness of God? Absolutely
Does that mean that the character of God would also be embedded into mankind (Q) Absolutely
Does every human being have a conscience (Q) Absolutely
And does the Bible say that the conscience is a replica of the Law (the Ten Commandments) (Q) Absolutely
So please take note of this passage in Romans 2.
5 ...and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another,
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Once Christians understand that the Ten Commandments are actually a revelation of the character of God -- His absolute righteousness and holiness -- everything else falls into place. Hence they could be condensed into the Law of Love (because God is Love) by Christ.
Did God created mankind in the image and likeness of God? Absolutely
Does that mean that the character of God would also be embedded into mankind (Q) Absolutely
Does every human being have a conscience (Q) Absolutely
And does the Bible say that the conscience is a replica of the Law (the Ten Commandments) (Q) Absolutely
So please take note of this passage in Romans 2.
5 ...and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another,
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
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you hit the nail right on the head...i responded with a short paragraph that clearly left no doubt
as to the answer in the new testament...now there are answers in voluminous response from
ever law ever known to mankind...leaves me to wonder if people answer or are exhibiting their
unrelated prowess of what may have been...Christ was the last and final covenant and the
answers in romans 8 and matthew 5:21 ff.
as to the answer in the new testament...now there are answers in voluminous response from
ever law ever known to mankind...leaves me to wonder if people answer or are exhibiting their
unrelated prowess of what may have been...Christ was the last and final covenant and the
answers in romans 8 and matthew 5:21 ff.
My suggestion to people is to go and study what a covenant is!
Once one understand that, and it holds for every Biblical example, then it is possible to properly discern what is going on - Biblically speaking.
In particular, once one understands the parties involved and the terms of the Sinaitic covenant, one quickly realises that it cannot be binding on New covenant believers, again, once one understands the parties and terms of the New covenant....
Once one understand that, and it holds for every Biblical example, then it is possible to properly discern what is going on - Biblically speaking.
In particular, once one understands the parties involved and the terms of the Sinaitic covenant, one quickly realises that it cannot be binding on New covenant believers, again, once one understands the parties and terms of the New covenant....
Well had you checked out the terms and conditions of the New Covenant, you would not have made that remark. So let's see that in the New Covenant, the Ten commandments are written on hearts and minds unlike when they were written on tablets of stone.
JEREMIAH 31
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
What is this *Law* that God writes in their souls (inward parts) and in their hearts, other than the Ten Commandments (Q)
JEREMIAH 31
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
What is this *Law* that God writes in their souls (inward parts) and in their hearts, other than the Ten Commandments (Q)
The 10 Commandments are simply an "EXCERPT" of "THE LAW"...
...The 10 Commandments do not stand apart from "THE LAW".
...There are merely the first 10 Commandments spoken by God.
Arian ( aka Adventist ) groups generally affirm that the 10 Commandment Law...
...Is a unique and separate law unto itself & not to be confused with the other law.
...This position is easily refuted by Scripture.
...The 10 Commandments do not stand apart from "THE LAW".
...There are merely the first 10 Commandments spoken by God.
Arian ( aka Adventist ) groups generally affirm that the 10 Commandment Law...
...Is a unique and separate law unto itself & not to be confused with the other law.
...This position is easily refuted by Scripture.
Yes, and if you add the Biblical Fact that it was the Word which became Flesh in the person of Jesus that created the instructions in the first place, it sheds a Light on His instructions He gave in the NT.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Good post N6 :^)
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Good post N6 :^)
IMHO the confusion comes from ignorance on what the law is...
...And how it was given - the specifics of what happened that day.
...Folks that don't understand that incorrectly assume two laws.
The Biblical way to look at it is to understand that there is ONE LAW....
...That is made up of 'Moral' & 'Ceremonial' Commandments.
...The Moral Commandments will NEVER pass away because God is moral.
Ceremonial laws come and go - they are NOT the substance, only shadow pointing to the Substance ( Christ )
...And how it was given - the specifics of what happened that day.
...Folks that don't understand that incorrectly assume two laws.
The Biblical way to look at it is to understand that there is ONE LAW....
...That is made up of 'Moral' & 'Ceremonial' Commandments.
...The Moral Commandments will NEVER pass away because God is moral.
Ceremonial laws come and go - they are NOT the substance, only shadow pointing to the Substance ( Christ )