Have The 10 Commandments Been Abolished?

JesusLives · Apr 2, 2018

a·bol·ish
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verb
verb: abolish; 3rd person present: abolishes; past tense: abolished; past participle: abolished; gerund or present participle: abolishing

formally put an end to (a system, practice, or institution).
"the tax was abolished in 1977"
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[TD]put an end to, get rid of, scrap, end, stop, terminate, ax, eradicate, eliminate, exterminate, destroy, annihilate, stamp out, obliterate, wipe out, extinguish, quash, expunge, extirpate; annul, cancel, invalidate, negate, nullify, void, dissolve;
rescind, repeal, revoke, overturn;
discontinue, remove, excise, drop, jettison;
informaldo away with, ditch, junk, scrub, dump;
formalabrogate
"the governor never fulfilled his promise to abolish the state income tax"

Short answer to Title of thread......NO

They are still valid.

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Shamah · Apr 2, 2018

JesusLives said:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]

loyaldisciple · Apr 3, 2018

It seems apparent that God has tried many times to save His people. First telling them to obey His commands in the Garden of Eden only to see that command not followed. Then to save His people from slavery, give them the laws and also see those not followed. Then to send His son to earth to die upon the cross as payment for the sins of those who will believe in Him. Over and over and over again God has tried His best to save His children. Yet still they argue, still they question His word and yet still they work to deceive to satisfy their own selfishness. I think it best to remember "all" the good that God has done and to abolish not a section of it. Remember it all, combining His law and trying to follow it the best that we can along with trusting Him and accepting His son as our Lord and Savior. I think we should forget nothing that God has done for us and should remember it all in hopes to someday meet Him in the heavens and live in eternal peace.

OneFaith · Apr 3, 2018

blue_ladybug said:

No, God’s law is not done away with, only the physical way of obeying it under Moses is done away with. Under Christ we obey God’s laws spiritually. This is why, for one example, why we no longer sacrifice a physically perfect lamb- Christ is our spiritually perfect Lamb. What gets confusing to some is the title “the Law” Which really means “the law that was obeyed physically with Moses as the overseer”. Those same laws (God’s laws) are now obeyed spiritually instead of physically with Christ as the overseer. Moses’ authority has been taken away, nailed to the cross forevermore (amen!). (Romans 7:1-4, Matthew 28:18).

beta · Apr 3, 2018

Shamah said:

Yes EXACTLY !
and it is no accident that this verse is right in among the 10 Commandments of God !!!
there is no mention of the commandments contained in ordinances/works which were given through Moses and later fulfilled by Jesus.
People need to see the difference between them and how the 10 are eternal/spiritual, holy just and good Rom 7....teaching us to love God and neighbour ! they were never nailed to the cross along with the physical temporary works.

beta · Apr 3, 2018

Bladerunner said:

The veil has been rent...there is no THEM and US. Gal 3v28.
GOD's people are One and come under the same law Ex 12...even in the OT ! there has never been a Covenant made with anyone OUTside ISRAEL....ALL have to 'turn to the Lord'.

Pythons · Apr 3, 2018

blue_ladybug said:

The question presupposes the 10 Commandments are a separate and unto themselves law...
...This is incorrect - the 10 Commandments are simply the 1st 10 of the + 600 Commandments.
...Thus, THAT LAW has been set aside for a better one.

Each "MORAL" or "NATURAL" Law contained in the Old Law is eternal or perpetual...
...It's the "CEREMONIAL" Laws that have been abolished - laws that require instruction.
...Such as observance of the Sabbath & other Feast days / temple rubrics, etc.

When Individuals FLED England and came to America & created laws...
...It doesn't mean that it was now ok to murder, steal, cheat, etc.
...It simply meant that the MORAL LAWS in England were Grandfathered in.

This is one way to look at the Law of Moses ( 1st 5 Books of Scripture )...
...The New Covenant doesn't condone murder or any of the foolish.
...Things we've heard Saturday Sabbath adherents claim.

So of course ANYTHING Moral in the Old Law is still binding because it's MORAL...
...Therefore out of the 1st 10 Commandments 9.5 of them are binding.

It is Natural or Moral to set aside some time for the worship of Deity...
...This is evidenced by ALL CULTURES regardless of what religion they practice.
...Thus the Command to worship God is MORAL.

It's the TIMING that's ceremonial as no one is commanded "by nature" to observe one day over another.

The New Testament speaks clearly to this.

Shamah · Apr 3, 2018

Marcelo said:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isayah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from doing any evil. And let not the son of the gentile who has joined himself to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]speak, saying, ‘[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has certainly separated me from His people,’ nor let the eunuch say, ‘Look I am a dry tree.’ For thus said [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “To the eunuchs who guard My Sabbaths, and have chosen what pleases Me, and are holding onto My covenant: to them I shall give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters – I give them an everlasting name that is not cut off. Also the sons of the gentile who join themselves to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to serve Him, and to love the Name of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to be His servants, all who guard the Sabbath, and not profane it, and are holding onto My covenant, them I shall bring to My set-apart mountain, and let them rejoice in My house of prayer. Their ascending offerings and their sacrifices are accepted on My altar, for My house is called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

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HeRoseFromTheDead · Apr 3, 2018

Once upon a time...

ψευδάδελφος from Jerusalem: "Disciples must keep the law of Moses"

James, the head of the church: "No"

Shamah · Apr 3, 2018

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:24, "As for you, let that stay in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning stays in you, you also shall stay in the Son and in the Father."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, “And you shall love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.”[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, ‘Do not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the children of your people. And you shall love your neighbour as yourself. I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, “Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”[/FONT]
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Bladerunner · Apr 3, 2018

seed_time_harvest said:

The country is getting saturated with those preaching Amillennialism and 'other Gospels' where no Grace is needed....There will come a time that true believers will be pushed to believe this version (or one similar view) or be punished by WHat, Only God knows.... I think the church will not have to endure this persecution and will be rapture in the near future.....The one thing about the gospel the Church believes in is written in the Bible. 1 Cor 15:1-4.....

EarnestQ · Apr 4, 2018

Yesterday, on the way to work, I was reflecting on the Ten Commandments and it occurred to me that the Ten Commandments do not result in salvation. They are the result of salvation.

One doesn't obey the Ten Commandments to get salvation. The Ten Commandments are what it looks like when someone is saved.

Grandpa · Apr 4, 2018

EarnestQ said:

Its the fruit of the spirit that are the result of salvation.

Galatians 5:22-23

[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

It looks almost the same as following the written law. But it is only achieved by Resting in Christ by faith.

These fruit are what uphold the law. And it confuses the lawyers and judaizers who try to work to produce this fruit on their own through their own understanding of the written law.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Does the fruit of the spirit void the written law? God Forbid. The fruit of the Spirit establishes the law.

Jackson123 · Apr 4, 2018

10 commandment has been fulfill.

Jesus say

[h=1]Matthew 22:37-40 King James Version (KJV)[/h]37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

what is : "all the law " in verse 40 mean?

what is law.?

law is rule that enforce by authority.

in the OT, 10 c is a law, it was i force by authority, the violator will be stoned to death.

so "all the law" in verse 40 is all the law in OT include 10 c

now we are under matt 22, not under 10 c anymore.

is that mean we are now free to kill or steal?

No, under matt 22, mean not killing or stealing, because love not kill, or steal or harm love one.
Like when you love your son, did you kill him?

1ofthem · Apr 4, 2018

Jackson123 said:

I think that it means if you follow the two commandments to Love God and Love others as our self then that covers the 10 commandments. Because if we have that love in us then we won't be breaking the 10 commandments and if we do then we will feel guilty and repent.

To me the 10 commandments are just commonsense and to keep them is to show Love for God and others. That's how I see it, anyhow.

Jackson123 · Apr 4, 2018

1ofthem said:

Yep, Love is core of all God law.

not all law base on love, but all God law is.

When I was young, I am living in South Sumatra, Indonesia. There was a law, that clove farmer must sale the clove to special place, if caught, sale to other, will be severe Penalty.

they buy about half market price

rumor say, the president son behind this law. Not because he love the farmer, but because of greed.

Human made law base on greed, All God law base on love

1ofthem · Apr 4, 2018

Jackson123 said:

Amen...It's all about love. If we love him we will keep his commandment and his commandments are not grievous.

[h=1]1 John 5 King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.[/FONT]

Bladerunner · Apr 4, 2018

beta said:

Yes, we are all one WHO believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ (1 Cor 15:1-4)....After the Rapture of the Church, God will turn his attention back to His People (Israel) and bring them home......If you do not believe in that, then fine,,,,But what God tells us in the Bible is HIS WORDS....all of it.......Are you going to call HIM a LIAR???????? Think about it,,He already knows what is in you heart.

Grandpa · Apr 5, 2018

Shamah said:

Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

I suppose if the vail is over your mind you can't properly understand scripture.

But when you come to Christ to receive rest the vail is removed.

Romans 9:31-32
[SUP]31 [/SUP]But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

By not understanding scripture you fall into the same classic error as the people before you who tried to follow those same "righteous instructions".

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